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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Bad RAM or Video will still give you beeps! No beeps means 1) the BIOS chip has conked 2) CPU has conked out 3) worst case whole MOBO is gone Check if the CPU and the BIOS chips are plugged in properly. Worst case, to check if the CPU is really powering up, remove the heatsink and boot up and leave for about 30 seconds. If the CPU gets warm(hot), probably that's OK enough(no guarantees though).
SG
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Hang on, I'm driving straight to the airport now... Without wishing to teach granny to suck eggs have you ensured that all the connectors are, well, connected to the right connections and that the CPU and memory are properly seated in their seats? no obvious cracks or loose bits on the MB? Hey, how the hell would I know? I just work here...
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Bad RAM or Video will still give you beeps! No beeps means 1) the BIOS chip has conked 2) CPU has conked out 3) worst case whole MOBO is gone Check if the CPU and the BIOS chips are plugged in properly. Worst case, to check if the CPU is really powering up, remove the heatsink and boot up and leave for about 30 seconds. If the CPU gets warm(hot), probably that's OK enough(no guarantees though).
SG
- the internal speaker is missing/disconnected. I've seen some new cases without one, and in my experience the wires for it are somehow much more fragile than anything else. I've busted wires to several of them but never any other wiring.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Hang on, I'm driving straight to the airport now... Without wishing to teach granny to suck eggs have you ensured that all the connectors are, well, connected to the right connections and that the CPU and memory are properly seated in their seats? no obvious cracks or loose bits on the MB? Hey, how the hell would I know? I just work here...
digital man wrote:
Hang on, I'm driving straight to the airport now...
Great, get a ticket to Sydney Australia, I'll pick you up when you get here.
digital man wrote:
Without wishing to teach granny to suck eggs have you ensured that all the connectors are, well, connected to the right connections and that the CPU and memory are properly seated in their seats? no obvious cracks or loose bits on the MB?
Reseated RAM, replugged in all power cables, checked capacitors for splits (all good) had a good look at motherboard but haven't yet cracked the CPU heatsink seal. Leaving that as a last resort.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Reseat the processor and test it again with just processor, motherboard, speaker and power supply. Pull all the memory out and disconnect all the cables. That should give you a beep if anything should. If that doesn't work, check the back of the motherboard, something could have fallen back there and caused a short.
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
If the machine was really physically damaged, the motherboard could have fine cracks in its circuit paths that would brickify it. First, I would try swapping RAM around, or removing all of it entirely to see if you then get any beeps. If so, you have narrowed it down to the memory or its slots. Then move forward from there. Peace!
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Reseat the processor and test it again with just processor, motherboard, speaker and power supply. Pull all the memory out and disconnect all the cables. That should give you a beep if anything should. If that doesn't work, check the back of the motherboard, something could have fallen back there and caused a short.
This blanket smells like ham
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digital man wrote:
Hang on, I'm driving straight to the airport now...
Great, get a ticket to Sydney Australia, I'll pick you up when you get here.
digital man wrote:
Without wishing to teach granny to suck eggs have you ensured that all the connectors are, well, connected to the right connections and that the CPU and memory are properly seated in their seats? no obvious cracks or loose bits on the MB?
Reseated RAM, replugged in all power cables, checked capacitors for splits (all good) had a good look at motherboard but haven't yet cracked the CPU heatsink seal. Leaving that as a last resort.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
Great, get a ticket to Sydney Australia
Believe me, wouldn't take much to get me to the sunshine and wide open spaces...
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- the internal speaker is missing/disconnected. I've seen some new cases without one, and in my experience the wires for it are somehow much more fragile than anything else. I've busted wires to several of them but never any other wiring.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
You're right about that! Though, I've seen MOBO's that have a small speaker embedded on the board itself.
SG
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
home invaded
Robbers?
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Phil Harding wrote:
I live under a rock, what exactley is a home invasion :confused:
Were people (most often drug addicts) bust into your home and if your lucky enough to be home they will kick three shades of shit out of you if they leave it to hands and feet only. Then they will take anything and everything of value to pawn to get their next hit.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Michael Martin wrote:
home invaded
Robbers?
"Once in Africa I lost the corkscrew and we were forced to live off food and water for weeks." - Ernest Hemingway My New Blog
Brady Kelly wrote:
Robbers?
Mainly drug addicts who break in if your home or not. Usually more than one and they are quite nasty if you are in their way.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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You're right about that! Though, I've seen MOBO's that have a small speaker embedded on the board itself.
SG
interesting. I don't think I ever saw that one before. I'd think the 2 digit 7 segment display on some of my boards would be a more useful diagnostic tool and it's not really any bigger than the minispeaker.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Phil Harding wrote:
I live under a rock, what exactley is a home invasion :confused:
Were people (most often drug addicts) bust into your home and if your lucky enough to be home they will kick three shades of shit out of you if they leave it to hands and feet only. Then they will take anything and everything of value to pawn to get their next hit.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
OMG! Thats quite unbelievable!!:wtf: Which place is your friend in? And I thought these kind of things happened in middle eastern dictatorships. Aren't they ever apprehended?:~
SG
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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Brady Kelly wrote:
Robbers?
Mainly drug addicts who break in if your home or not. Usually more than one and they are quite nasty if you are in their way.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
I thought we in SA were alone in not feeling safe at home... :~
"Once in Africa I lost the corkscrew and we were forced to live off food and water for weeks." - Ernest Hemingway My New Blog
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OMG! Thats quite unbelievable!!:wtf: Which place is your friend in? And I thought these kind of things happened in middle eastern dictatorships. Aren't they ever apprehended?:~
SG
SimulationofSai wrote:
Which place is your friend in?
Less than a mile up the road from me, sunny downtown Mount Druitt NSW Australia.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
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I'm helping a mate out who has hit a bit of bad luck. He's unempoyed and recently was home invaded and as well as kicking a few teeth out they kicked crap out of his computer. Silly bastard went out a bought a few parts with a loan he got before I could have a look over his system. He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in. So it has a DVD-ROM, DVD-R, floppy, 1GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 256MD video, video capture, modem, fluro lights with power switch and I think a SPDIF thingy. It powers up nicely, all the lights on the motherboard light up abd all fans go, but no BIOS beeps or display. Probably means that the motherboard/CPU/RAM is gone. Anyone have any ideas of what else it could be? I have RAM I can swap out for testing but no CPU or M/B, any help appreciated.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
He needed a power supply, HDD and video card but I didn't know at that point if the computer (P4 2.66GHz) was in working order. I pulled out the air compressor and blew enough crap out of the heat sink to plant potatoes in.
- I don't suppose anyone by chance "tested" the power supply without a motherboard attached? depending on power supply, an unloaded test of a PC powersupply will render the power supply: non-functional. 2) blowing dirt out of the heatsink could mean an overheated CPU, or dead CPU 3) kicking a computer while it is up could have resulted in a brief gap between heatsink and CPU, an air-bubble between the two heats up fast and activates the auto-off on the chip to prevent overheating. Although this is a relatively new thing, I believe it came in the P4 line. Taking the heatsink off, cleaning it properly (google or ask if unsure), put it back on with thermal paste/grease (not glue) or one of the better thermal compounds. In the case of #3, I had two computers shipped to our ship fed ex. Fed ex at least dropped them (not sure from what height but given that this is a steal enclosure bent 2 inches in -- I don't want to know). After reseating everything in a slot, both of them refused to post. But there were motherboard lights telling me that the reason was CPU related. Both had to be cleaned and reseated. One also had to have the graphics card replaced. I would have demanded fed ex insurance replace them, except they were needed in 3 days, insurance would take longer, so fixing was manditory.
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