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WAPs, WEPs, and Vista

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    Marc Clifton
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    Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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      Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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      Tim Carmichael
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      What the heck am I doing wrong?

      Marc Clifton wrote:

      Vista

      Self explanatory... :laugh:

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        Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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        Jim Crafton
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        You're WAP is out of wack with the WEP, which is in turn not synchronized with the WWW which it can no longer communicate with because of WAN problems with the WTP. Check the WTS and see if it's got the latest from WUS, and then change the WZC on it. Hope that helps. OK I cheated on the some of the last couple - I found them here[^] :)

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          You're WAP is out of wack with the WEP, which is in turn not synchronized with the WWW which it can no longer communicate with because of WAN problems with the WTP. Check the WTS and see if it's got the latest from WUS, and then change the WZC on it. Hope that helps. OK I cheated on the some of the last couple - I found them here[^] :)

          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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          Marc Clifton
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          Jim Crafton wrote:

          Hope that helps.

          WTF! :laugh: ;) Marc

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            You're WAP is out of wack with the WEP, which is in turn not synchronized with the WWW which it can no longer communicate with because of WAN problems with the WTP. Check the WTS and see if it's got the latest from WUS, and then change the WZC on it. Hope that helps. OK I cheated on the some of the last couple - I found them here[^] :)

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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            Todd Smith
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            You forgot to mention the DMZ.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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              Russell Morris
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              Enter Key 1 only.

              -- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

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                Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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                Michael Dunn
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                WEP security

                That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

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                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  WEP security

                  That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                  --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Hungarian notation FTW

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Michael Dunn wrote:

                  That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                  You know, it's ironic. They guy who sets all this stuff up is a big advocate of freeware stuff like Linux, Firefox, etc., because, his #1 argument, it's more secure. So what does he set up on the WAP's? WEP! :rolleyes: And I love how he keeps the default password on the WAP (it's a linksys box, so it's admin). Anyone can do an IP search and find it in 10 seconds and gain access to it. Marc

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                    Enter Key 1 only.

                    -- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

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                    Russell Morris wrote:

                    Enter Key 1 only.

                    That's what I was going to try. Thanks! You're the first person to actually answer the darn question! :rolleyes: Marc

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                      Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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                      IIRC, the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client. Don't know exactly why, though, so anyone with a more in-depth knowledge of WEP is welcome to explain :) Mike

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                        IIRC, the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client. Don't know exactly why, though, so anyone with a more in-depth knowledge of WEP is welcome to explain :) Mike

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        Mike_V wrote:

                        the access points are programmed for up to four keys

                        That's what I'm discovering. It's scary, the holes in my knowledge. :) Marc

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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          WEP security

                          That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                          --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Hungarian notation FTW

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                          Michael Dunn wrote:

                          WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                          Didn't I just read somewhere that WPA is equally easily cracked?

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                            IIRC, the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client. Don't know exactly why, though, so anyone with a more in-depth knowledge of WEP is welcome to explain :) Mike

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                            El Corazon
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                            Mike_V wrote:

                            the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client

                            rotating keys. I had this with my ancient Dlink+ router and client card. Both had 4 keys, you could select which one, and rotate them around daily. I've long since given away that system, so specifics I can't help with. I gave it away because of compatibility problems, not surprisingly enough.

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                              Michael Dunn wrote:

                              WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                              Didn't I just read somewhere that WPA is equally easily cracked?

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                              Michael Dunn
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                              No, encryption in WPA was implemented properly.

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                                Mike_V wrote:

                                the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client

                                rotating keys. I had this with my ancient Dlink+ router and client card. Both had 4 keys, you could select which one, and rotate them around daily. I've long since given away that system, so specifics I can't help with. I gave it away because of compatibility problems, not surprisingly enough.

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                Rhys Gravell
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                                You know, the D-Link kit I had until recently never gave me a problem. The signal from the Netgear kit I now have drops at least three times a day :-(

                                Rhys "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." Terry Pratchett

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