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WAPs, WEPs, and Vista

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  • M Marc Clifton

    Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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    Russell Morris
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    Enter Key 1 only.

    -- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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      Michael Dunn
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      WEP security

      That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

      --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Hungarian notation FTW

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      • M Michael Dunn

        Marc Clifton wrote:

        WEP security

        That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

        --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Hungarian notation FTW

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        Marc Clifton
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        Michael Dunn wrote:

        That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

        You know, it's ironic. They guy who sets all this stuff up is a big advocate of freeware stuff like Linux, Firefox, etc., because, his #1 argument, it's more secure. So what does he set up on the WAP's? WEP! :rolleyes: And I love how he keeps the default password on the WAP (it's a linksys box, so it's admin). Anyone can do an IP search and find it in 10 seconds and gain access to it. Marc

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          Enter Key 1 only.

          -- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"

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          Marc Clifton
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          Russell Morris wrote:

          Enter Key 1 only.

          That's what I was going to try. Thanks! You're the first person to actually answer the darn question! :rolleyes: Marc

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          • M Marc Clifton

            Get ready for an acronym bath. So, the WAP at my son's school is configured with WEP security, and I have the 40 character key (4 10 char keys listed in the WAP under key 1, key 2...) When I select the wireless network, Vista prompts me for the encryption key or the passphrase. I don't have the passphrase, so I enter the 40 char key. Vista complains that the key should be 10/13/20/26 characters long. What the heck am I doing wrong? Marc

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            IIRC, the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client. Don't know exactly why, though, so anyone with a more in-depth knowledge of WEP is welcome to explain :) Mike

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            • M Mike_V

              IIRC, the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client. Don't know exactly why, though, so anyone with a more in-depth knowledge of WEP is welcome to explain :) Mike

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              Marc Clifton
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              Mike_V wrote:

              the access points are programmed for up to four keys

              That's what I'm discovering. It's scary, the holes in my knowledge. :) Marc

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              • M Michael Dunn

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                WEP security

                That's an oxymoron now, WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ Hungarian notation FTW

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                Lost User
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                Michael Dunn wrote:

                WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                Didn't I just read somewhere that WPA is equally easily cracked?

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                • M Mike_V

                  IIRC, the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client. Don't know exactly why, though, so anyone with a more in-depth knowledge of WEP is welcome to explain :) Mike

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                  El Corazon
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                  Mike_V wrote:

                  the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client

                  rotating keys. I had this with my ancient Dlink+ router and client card. Both had 4 keys, you could select which one, and rotate them around daily. I've long since given away that system, so specifics I can't help with. I gave it away because of compatibility problems, not surprisingly enough.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Michael Dunn wrote:

                    WEP can be cracked in 1 minute.

                    Didn't I just read somewhere that WPA is equally easily cracked?

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                    Michael Dunn
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                    No, encryption in WPA was implemented properly.

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                    • E El Corazon

                      Mike_V wrote:

                      the access points are programmed for up to four keys, but only one of them is needed on the client

                      rotating keys. I had this with my ancient Dlink+ router and client card. Both had 4 keys, you could select which one, and rotate them around daily. I've long since given away that system, so specifics I can't help with. I gave it away because of compatibility problems, not surprisingly enough.

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      Rhys Gravell
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                      You know, the D-Link kit I had until recently never gave me a problem. The signal from the Netgear kit I now have drops at least three times a day :-(

                      Rhys "The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it" They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance." Terry Pratchett

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