Chicken Pox
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Justin Perez wrote:
Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I had chicken pox as a youngster, and then got a case of shingles as an adult. To say that it was itchy is an understatement!
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I got it early in life. My roommate never had them, so he was petrified when my son got the pox. When one of the kids gets chicken pox here, everyone brings their kids over to play with them and get it from them as well. Natural vaccination. :) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
When one of the kids gets chicken pox here, everyone brings their kids over to play with them and get it from them as well. Natural vaccination.
I was going to ask that question also. I can see why parents do that, but I think it's very, uhmm... cruel. I don't think when I have children I will subject them to it. I know they will get them from someone anyways, and that it's better to have them when they are young. But, I would just feel so bad to see my child in agony, and knowing that I brought them there, knowing full well what was going to happen, Ya know?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
If I remember right I had it only once when I was 5. It wasn't bad and cleared up very quickly which is odd considering it took my immune system 3 goes to get a handle on mumps and 4 for German measles. Each time being worse than the last. Most of these things are worse the older you are when you get them. I'm not sure if it's a body mass thing, an immune response side effect thing or an immune recognition speed thing. Is Doctor House in the house?
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
When one of the kids gets chicken pox here, everyone brings their kids over to play with them and get it from them as well. Natural vaccination.
I was going to ask that question also. I can see why parents do that, but I think it's very, uhmm... cruel. I don't think when I have children I will subject them to it. I know they will get them from someone anyways, and that it's better to have them when they are young. But, I would just feel so bad to see my child in agony, and knowing that I brought them there, knowing full well what was going to happen, Ya know?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Getting it younger is a WHOLE lot less painful than getting it when you are older! If they catch it when they are adults, knowing that you didn't expose them to it at a tender age when you could/should have would not go down well I am sure.
I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)
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Getting it younger is a WHOLE lot less painful than getting it when you are older! If they catch it when they are adults, knowing that you didn't expose them to it at a tender age when you could/should have would not go down well I am sure.
I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)
Baconbutty wrote:
Getting it younger is a WHOLE lot less painful than getting it when you are older!
Yeah I know it's worse when you get older.
Baconbutty wrote:
If they catch it when they are adults, knowing that you didn't expose them to it at a tender age when you could/should have would not go down well I am sure.
I see that point of view too, it's a completely valid reason for exposing them to the pox intentionally. It's just that I would hate to see my seed suffering because I brought he/she to a place to get them.
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
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Marc Clifton wrote:
When one of the kids gets chicken pox here, everyone brings their kids over to play with them and get it from them as well. Natural vaccination.
I was going to ask that question also. I can see why parents do that, but I think it's very, uhmm... cruel. I don't think when I have children I will subject them to it. I know they will get them from someone anyways, and that it's better to have them when they are young. But, I would just feel so bad to see my child in agony, and knowing that I brought them there, knowing full well what was going to happen, Ya know?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Justin Perez wrote:
I can see why parents do that, but I think it's very, uhmm... cruel.
It's really not that bad. The kids I know enjoy the time off from school. And it's a lot less cruel than discovering that the chicken pox vaccination doesn't properly protect you as an adult.
Justin Perez wrote:
I would just feel so bad to see my child in agony
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox] [potential quackery] For example: What we do know as a result of vaccination for measles, another previously common childhood infection--also thought to be much less serious if contracted between the ages of 3-9, is that for many, the vaccine does not confer lifelong immunity, it merely POSTPONES one's susceptibility. Prior to widespread measles vaccination, epidemics in college-aged people were unheard of -- today (or a least prior to requiring re-immunization of college freshman) college students have become more common victims, and face a greater potential for complications then children. -- Source[^] (dubious as it may be) [/potential quackery] The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you. Hmmm. I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays! Marc
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I had them as a child, can't say how old. My uncle (who is now 85) had them as an adult. He must have been in his sixties at the time. BDF
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Justin Perez wrote:
I can see why parents do that, but I think it's very, uhmm... cruel.
It's really not that bad. The kids I know enjoy the time off from school. And it's a lot less cruel than discovering that the chicken pox vaccination doesn't properly protect you as an adult.
Justin Perez wrote:
I would just feel so bad to see my child in agony
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox] [potential quackery] For example: What we do know as a result of vaccination for measles, another previously common childhood infection--also thought to be much less serious if contracted between the ages of 3-9, is that for many, the vaccine does not confer lifelong immunity, it merely POSTPONES one's susceptibility. Prior to widespread measles vaccination, epidemics in college-aged people were unheard of -- today (or a least prior to requiring re-immunization of college freshman) college students have become more common victims, and face a greater potential for complications then children. -- Source[^] (dubious as it may be) [/potential quackery] The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you. Hmmm. I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays! Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I had them around 7 or 8 I think. I was going to a soccer game and my mom handed me my jersey, I pull off my shirt and she says "whoa...you can't go to the game, you've got chicken pox". Still have a couple of scars from them. I don't know anyone that got them as an adult.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I had a mild case of them as a small child, then later had a worse case of them. then later had shigles (still as a child). :sigh: My children have not had them yet. Something to look forward to. X|
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
I know, we can call them Gen Don't Know. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
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Justin Perez wrote:
I can see why parents do that, but I think it's very, uhmm... cruel.
It's really not that bad. The kids I know enjoy the time off from school. And it's a lot less cruel than discovering that the chicken pox vaccination doesn't properly protect you as an adult.
Justin Perez wrote:
I would just feel so bad to see my child in agony
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox] [potential quackery] For example: What we do know as a result of vaccination for measles, another previously common childhood infection--also thought to be much less serious if contracted between the ages of 3-9, is that for many, the vaccine does not confer lifelong immunity, it merely POSTPONES one's susceptibility. Prior to widespread measles vaccination, epidemics in college-aged people were unheard of -- today (or a least prior to requiring re-immunization of college freshman) college students have become more common victims, and face a greater potential for complications then children. -- Source[^] (dubious as it may be) [/potential quackery] The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you. Hmmm. I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays! Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you.
Isn't an informed decision just balancing these information sources?
Marc Clifton wrote:
I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays!
Because you are the bottleneck, Marc! :D Up to a certain amount, we need to stop seeing sickness as a "broken machine, needs to be fixed", and more as "down for maintenance". This doesn't work for terminal cancer, but certainly for the common cold.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
<soapbox> Welcome to the long-lasting results of
Political Correctnessgone to far, or just gone plain wrong. We would all be better off learning (and thus teaching) that it is OK to be offended, and be uncomfortable and/or in pain every now and then - thus are some of the most memorable moments of the Human Condition. Deal with 'em. Besides, many of us as kids learned what and what not to do by the results of pain from a particular scenario. </soapbox> Peace!-=- James
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Nope, never had it. I was even at a holiday camp when I was a child where everyone came down with it. Except me. Or my sister. Oh well, lucky in one thing, anyway.
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If I remember right I had it only once when I was 5. It wasn't bad and cleared up very quickly which is odd considering it took my immune system 3 goes to get a handle on mumps and 4 for German measles. Each time being worse than the last. Most of these things are worse the older you are when you get them. I'm not sure if it's a body mass thing, an immune response side effect thing or an immune recognition speed thing. Is Doctor House in the house?
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Most of these things are worse the older you are when you get them. I'm not sure if it's a body mass thing, an immune response side effect thing or an immune recognition speed thing. Is Doctor House in the house?
Not sure of the exact cause, but the immune response in strongest in babies and weakens as you age. The reason little kids are always getting sick isn't a deficiency in the immune system itself, but that they're encountering every disease for the first time and don't have any canned antibodies in place to slow it while they mobilize.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Marc Clifton wrote:
The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you.
Isn't an informed decision just balancing these information sources?
Marc Clifton wrote:
I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays!
Because you are the bottleneck, Marc! :D Up to a certain amount, we need to stop seeing sickness as a "broken machine, needs to be fixed", and more as "down for maintenance". This doesn't work for terminal cancer, but certainly for the common cold.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistpeterchen wrote:
we need to stop seeing sickness as a "broken machine, needs to be fixed", and more as "down for maintenance".
Exactly! Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
Such is the price of technological advance without the corresponding social advances, I tend to think. Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
useless generations ever
I was just yesterday reading about a book, where author mentioned that people are increasingly seeing children as useless but emotionally priceless. :doh: Ankita
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I got it when I was seven or eight. It wasn't a very bad case, but was apparently bad enough for my immune system to become immune. Chicken Pox and Shingles are pretty much the same thing - the overwhelming majority of the time, children exhibit Chicken Pox symptoms a few times, and adults exhibit recurring cases of Shingles for life. Chicken Pox, Shingles, etc... are all Herpes-simplex viruses, like cold-sores/fever-blisters and genital herpes. The virus, once in the body, never leaves, and is never "killed" (nor are other viruses IIRC). The body just gets really good at smacking the virus down to the point that no symptoms are ever visible. For example, the overwhelming majority of the population has the herpes-simplex virus that causes cold-sores, but only a small portion of them will ever actually develop cold-sores. They can still pass it on, though not as easily as a person who has a cold-sore. I'm in the unfortunate minority that develops cold-sores once in awhile, as is my dad. My mother and sisters do not get them. There's not a chance in the world that my mother and sisters haven't been exposed - but for some reason their bodies are able to contain the virus to the point that they don't exhibit any symptoms, and are very unlikely to pass it on. I've been getting them since early childhood, too, so it's not like I got to do anything fun to get it either! :) The medicines advertised to greatly contain and prevent most genital herpes outbreaks are prescribed to contain Shingles and cold-sore outbreaks as well. They do a great job at it too. My outbreaks were never bad enough or frequent enough to require medication, though. For myself, using UV-blocking lip gloss drastically cut down my outbreak frequency - I typically get only 1 or 2 a year now. As far as Chicken Pox, however, get your kids infected between 3 and 5 years of age if you can. A young child is a germ- and virus-smackdown machine, and it repairs itself ridiculously quickly. Of course, ask your pediatrician for specifics, and follow their guidelines. But don't try and shield your child from real life - you can't. Let them build their immunity during childhood, lest they be plagued in adulthood by diseases their bodies could have learned to deal with easily in childhood.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
every generation says the same thing about the one coming after it. :rolleyes:
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer