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  • N Nish Nishant

    I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

    Regards, Nish


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    Glad you're OK. Your thread title is a bit off. It hints that a crash did in fact occur and that you narrowly escaped from it with your life/health. In reality, you narrowly "avoided" a vehicle crash.

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      I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

      Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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      Believe it or not you learn a lot from near crashes. I hope alcohol wasn't involved.


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      • N Nish Nishant

        I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

        Regards, Nish


        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard

        Sorry to say this was stupid man. Get off the accelerator and if you can't avoid it, slowly brake, but braking should be avoided if possible ;-).

        V. No hurries, no worries

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        • N Nish Nishant

          I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

          Regards, Nish


          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
          My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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          Life is so very much a game of inches. :rose:

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          • N Nish Nishant

            I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

            Regards, Nish


            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
            My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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            Glad you're ok... i've had my share of experiences like this on ramps, at one point sliding around a corner in the snow outside of a ramp... it's enough to make you stop and think hard about your driving habits. :)

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              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              ...but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction.

              Next time try downshifting (if possible). Once you lock the wheels, you no longer have control of the vehicle. Hydroplaning is nasty.


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              DavidCrow wrote:

              Next time try downshifting.

              Not an option in an automatic.. thus the need for anti-lock breaks. Here, on days when the snow is caked on the road and the snowplows haven't come through yet (or won't, because they don't think the road is important enough), you can skid even at very low speeds.

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                Life is so very much a game of inches. :rose:

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                Tim Deveaux wrote:

                Life is so very much a game of inches.

                Who was it that said "With each step, a person is on the edge of catastrophe." Referring to the fact that if our walking wasn't so perfectly timed, we'd fall flat on our faces. A game of inches, indeed...

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                  DavidCrow wrote:

                  Next time try downshifting.

                  Not an option in an automatic.. thus the need for anti-lock breaks. Here, on days when the snow is caked on the road and the snowplows haven't come through yet (or won't, because they don't think the road is important enough), you can skid even at very low speeds.

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                  Patrick Sears wrote:

                  breaks.

                  Been programming too much? I remember the first time I used the break statement, I applied the wrong brake;

                  this is this.

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                    DavidCrow wrote:

                    Next time try downshifting.

                    Not an option in an automatic.. thus the need for anti-lock breaks. Here, on days when the snow is caked on the road and the snowplows haven't come through yet (or won't, because they don't think the road is important enough), you can skid even at very low speeds.

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                    Patrick Sears wrote:

                    Not an option in an automatic..

                    Sure it is. Automatics have 3-5 gears just like a standard does.


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                      Patrick Sears wrote:

                      breaks.

                      Been programming too much? I remember the first time I used the break statement, I applied the wrong brake;

                      this is this.

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                      khan++ wrote:

                      Been programming too much?

                      Gaaaaaaahhhhhhh! Going to flog myself in a back room now..

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

                        Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                        Happy to hear you are okay, and didn't suffer any injuries, besides that of your ego from most likely sharting yourself :)

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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                          Welcome to Atlanta! I had many close shaves too.

                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          and Rohan were not with me

                          That was good! When it rains it is better to keep the speed down as brakes usage is unadvisable.

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                            Maximilien
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                            (sorry in advance if this sounds harsh) It seems it's not the first time you write about driving too fast; it was bound to happen. Luckily for you and others on the road, there was no accident.


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                            • N Nish Nishant

                              I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

                              Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                              I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal.

                              Bloody Indian drivers! They shouldn't be able to get a license. Dangerous, that's what they are. Bloody hoons I tell ya.

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                                Patrick Sears wrote:

                                Not an option in an automatic..

                                Sure it is. Automatics have 3-5 gears just like a standard does.


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                                I could be wrong, but unless the automatic has a sequential gear shift system, it's unlikely that you would be able to downshift. There are still automatics on the road where the only gear selection you have is 'D'. The actual gear that is in use is unavailable to the driver. :)

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                                  I could be wrong, but unless the automatic has a sequential gear shift system, it's unlikely that you would be able to downshift. There are still automatics on the road where the only gear selection you have is 'D'. The actual gear that is in use is unavailable to the driver. :)

                                  Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]

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                                  Chris Meech wrote:

                                  There are still automatics on the road where the only gear selection you have is 'D'.

                                  Fair enough, although wasn't 'L' an option too? I've only been driving for 23 years, and all of my cars that had automatic trannys had at least three forward gears to choose from, one of which was D.


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                                    Chris Meech wrote:

                                    There are still automatics on the road where the only gear selection you have is 'D'.

                                    Fair enough, although wasn't 'L' an option too? I've only been driving for 23 years, and all of my cars that had automatic trannys had at least three forward gears to choose from, one of which was D.


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                                    "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                                    On at least some newer cars (my friends Prius is this way) the gear shifter setting is only used as a suggestion, the actual gearing is decided by the computer running the system.

                                    -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                      Chris Meech wrote:

                                      There are still automatics on the road where the only gear selection you have is 'D'.

                                      Fair enough, although wasn't 'L' an option too? I've only been driving for 23 years, and all of my cars that had automatic trannys had at least three forward gears to choose from, one of which was D.


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                                      "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                                      Chris Meech
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                                      DavidCrow wrote:

                                      Fair enough, although wasn't 'L' an option too?

                                      Yeah, I think I've seen those too.

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                                        On at least some newer cars (my friends Prius is this way) the gear shifter setting is only used as a suggestion, the actual gearing is decided by the computer running the system.

                                        -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                        dan neely wrote:

                                        On at least some newer cars (my friends Prius is this way) the gear shifter setting is only used as a suggestion, the actual gearing is decided by the computer running the system.

                                        Yes, I realize that exceptions do exist. My point to Nish was merely a suggestion, not a hard and fast rule.


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                                          I was traveling home from a friend's house last evening (was alone). This was a first time route for me - since I wanted to stop at a Kerala grocery store on my way back home. I was taking a ramp from one freeway to another. It was raining lightly and all of a sudden I realized that the ramp curved a lot more sharply than I had expected it to. I also found that my speed was too high and that I was losing control of the car. I don't know if it was smart of stupid, but I stepped on my brakes hard - it was an instinctive reaction. The result was that I had completely lost control of the car and it was skidding towards the side of the ramp. I braced myself for a crash and was hoping I wouldn't break any bones, and that car damage would be minimal. It was unbelievable, but the car stopped about an inch or two near the side of the ramp where there was some kind of wooden (perhaps steel) fencing. Before I could relax, I knew I had to start the car straight away to avoid being rear ended by the dozens of cars behind me. So I stepped on the gas and accelerated the car as fast as I could and got back to the ramp and into the other highway. Everything happened so fast that I didn't even have time to panic. And I also remember feeling thankful that Smitha and Rohan were not with me. Though perhaps if she was there I wouldn't have been lost in my thoughts. Anyway this was a nastily scary experience for me and I think I'll drive far more carefully in the rain in future, especially if it's light rain, when the road tends to be more slippery.

                                          Regards, Nish


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                                          Al Beback
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                                          Oh man, that takes me back to a few years to when I was getting on one of those circular freeway ramps and the road was also damp. I had an old Honda Civic and I was driving it a little too "aggressive". Sure enough, when I hit the breaks, the car's tail spun around and I came to a sudden stop. Luckily, the side of the ramp had dirt and grass so I didn't hit anything. But I learned to never take damp curves so carelessly again.


                                          Man is a marvelous curiosity ... he thinks he is the Creator's pet ... he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to him and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea. - Mark Twain

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