How "Scaled" is your paycheck?
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Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
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Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?Did you check out http://www.salary.com/[^]
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
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Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?i'm right in the meaty part of the bell curve.
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Did you check out http://www.salary.com/[^]
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
I've yet to find one that gives a good indication of expected earnings based on role, industry, and years experience. Salary.com just gives an average of every reported salary in the sector, doesn't it? That's pretty worthless.
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i'm right in the meaty part of the bell curve.
Wow, that's almost sexy! Have you been listening to Justin Timberlake?
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Did you check out http://www.salary.com/[^]
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
Oh, yes, I have spent ALOT of time on that site. However, I have found that my local pay ranges vary wildly from what they say should be the average. eg. 2005 - They said that the average pay for a .NET developer in Charlotte, NC was 35/hr and I was making $37. I felt pretty good. Then, quietly and against management's direction, a few of us consultants started talking and I found out that among the 5 of us, I was the LOWEST paid. There was one guy there making $46/hr!
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
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I've yet to find one that gives a good indication of expected earnings based on role, industry, and years experience. Salary.com just gives an average of every reported salary in the sector, doesn't it? That's pretty worthless.
What I found was that they survey at least 1000 to 4000 people in your sector in the nation and use cost of living and other factors to come up with the numbers in your area. I believe this is flawed at best otherwise I am seriously under payed being that I am in the 25th percentile...
John
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Wow, that's almost sexy! Have you been listening to Justin Timberlake?
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step one: get a box
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Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?Scaled?? Try "scaled back"! :mad:
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Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
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Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
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Nobody gets paid what they are worth. If they did, their company would go out of business. Even people who are self employed have to be careful how they price themselves or they too will go out of business.
That's probably true. However, they could afford to pay the good developers better if they were able to get rid of the bad ones. Here, we have several developers who haven't written ANY code since they have been here and yet, they are still here. Heck, one even got promoted to a Sr. Programmer Analyst. I'd be happy to take a good salary and a respectable title, IF either one meant something. When you make the same and carry the same title as a developer who spends all day surfing, it sort of makes you feel less important to the company!
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common? -
Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?I see it liek this. Less than 5 years programming experience, you have to suck it up. Over 5 years you should make between 60 - 120K depending where you live. If you want more then that, you'll have to start your own company or get into management. Sometimes you have to change jobs to get a good pay jump. Sad but true.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
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step one: get a box
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step three - put box over head?
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step three - put box over head?
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in a manner of speaking, yes
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Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?In my day job, I'm paid at the top of the local scale. As a contractor, I'm a cheap ho.
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Oh, yes, I have spent ALOT of time on that site. However, I have found that my local pay ranges vary wildly from what they say should be the average. eg. 2005 - They said that the average pay for a .NET developer in Charlotte, NC was 35/hr and I was making $37. I felt pretty good. Then, quietly and against management's direction, a few of us consultants started talking and I found out that among the 5 of us, I was the LOWEST paid. There was one guy there making $46/hr!
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?JamminJimE wrote:
Then, quietly and against management's direction, a few of us consultants started talking and I found out that among the 5 of us, I was the LOWEST paid. There was one guy there making $46/hr!
This is why I think it is retarded for things like pay to be taboo topics of discussion. Sometimes, you NEED to know if you are being short-changed. There are ALWAYS reasons for the disparity in pay, and most of them are well deserved. Experience, seniority, education, number of successful completed projects - and so forth, are all good reasons for someone else to make a whole lot more money than you for the same work. But when two people with approximately equal accomplishment and qualification are being paid WIDELY different amounts, there's something wrong, and they need to know it. Only, the whole "It's evil to talk about pay together!" stigma prevents them from ever finding out. Two guesses who decided it was bad to talk about pay levels. Here's a hint: who has the most to gain from people accepting lower pay than their work is worth?
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Just out of pure curiosity, I am wondering how the pay scales are looking around the world. In your position (Employee or Consultant) and including your benefits package, are you making a fair salary or are you lower than the rest of the development community in your area? If you are a consultant, are you making what other consultants are making? If you're an employee, are you making the same salary WITH the same benefits that everyone else gets? What are the best geographical areas to work in for financial gains? I'm in Southern Florida, USA and right now, I am financially below the market.:( The benefits are typical without any outstanding perks.
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?JamminJimE wrote:
Microsoft Certified Application Developer
there's your problem
Todd Smith
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That's probably true. However, they could afford to pay the good developers better if they were able to get rid of the bad ones. Here, we have several developers who haven't written ANY code since they have been here and yet, they are still here. Heck, one even got promoted to a Sr. Programmer Analyst. I'd be happy to take a good salary and a respectable title, IF either one meant something. When you make the same and carry the same title as a developer who spends all day surfing, it sort of makes you feel less important to the company!
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
Why are we still calling it Common Sense when it's just not that common?You need to find out what other companies are paying in your area. Check local job listings. Some people will go so far as to search for a new job with the hope of either getting a better salary or using it as a means to get a raise. You can also fish information from headhunters. They can give you a bit of salary info on recent canidates they've placed but you'll need to form a relationship with them first usually.
Todd Smith