I *hate* Vista
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For a while I thought I was just going mad, but I'm now certain. Vista, at times, just closes programs without telling me why. I know for sure, because this time it was the IE instance I had CP and my mail running in. IE would prompt to ask if you want all tabs closed, and I definately did not see that, so there's no way I clicked it by accident. It's just gone. I guess IE was the weakest link. I can buy into that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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For a while I thought I was just going mad, but I'm now certain. Vista, at times, just closes programs without telling me why. I know for sure, because this time it was the IE instance I had CP and my mail running in. IE would prompt to ask if you want all tabs closed, and I definately did not see that, so there's no way I clicked it by accident. It's just gone. I guess IE was the weakest link. I can buy into that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
It would be worth checking the event log to see if anything is happening to cause this...?
'--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
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For a while I thought I was just going mad, but I'm now certain. Vista, at times, just closes programs without telling me why. I know for sure, because this time it was the IE instance I had CP and my mail running in. IE would prompt to ask if you want all tabs closed, and I definately did not see that, so there's no way I clicked it by accident. It's just gone. I guess IE was the weakest link. I can buy into that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Interesting, never had Vista automatically close and app. You sure you didn't turn of the cloas all tabs message in IE? I found it annoying, so I did.
only two letters away from being an asset
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For a while I thought I was just going mad, but I'm now certain. Vista, at times, just closes programs without telling me why. I know for sure, because this time it was the IE instance I had CP and my mail running in. IE would prompt to ask if you want all tabs closed, and I definately did not see that, so there's no way I clicked it by accident. It's just gone. I guess IE was the weakest link. I can buy into that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
SNAFU - even on XP. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose (or something like that - no doubt Karl will correct (when he's finished ROTFL) Oh well, so "upgrading" to Vista won't help. Another reason not to bother woth that just yet then... VS does that to me at least twice a day. Outlook and IE7 occassionally too. Fred
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Interesting, never had Vista automatically close and app. You sure you didn't turn of the cloas all tabs message in IE? I found it annoying, so I did.
only two letters away from being an asset
No, it definately is still on.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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It would be worth checking the event log to see if anything is happening to cause this...?
'--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
"Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16512, time stamp 0x46807103, faulting module Flash9c.ocx, version 9.0.45.0, time stamp 0x45db8560, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00187d1b, process id 0xb60, application start time 0x01c7f4563ebaffcb." It was Flash. The other app I noticed disappear doesn't have an entry, but this explains where IE went. Funny, unless some CP ads were Flash, I didn't have a site with Flash open.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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"Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16512, time stamp 0x46807103, faulting module Flash9c.ocx, version 9.0.45.0, time stamp 0x45db8560, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00187d1b, process id 0xb60, application start time 0x01c7f4563ebaffcb." It was Flash. The other app I noticed disappear doesn't have an entry, but this explains where IE went. Funny, unless some CP ads were Flash, I didn't have a site with Flash open.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Yeah, I see that Flash is the issue. However, it's not the only program that does it. I'm unconvinced that there isn't some underlying issue, even if it's not just Vista compatibility issues causing some programs to crash and silently disappear.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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For a while I thought I was just going mad, but I'm now certain. Vista, at times, just closes programs without telling me why. I know for sure, because this time it was the IE instance I had CP and my mail running in. IE would prompt to ask if you want all tabs closed, and I definately did not see that, so there's no way I clicked it by accident. It's just gone. I guess IE was the weakest link. I can buy into that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
Vista, at times, just closes programs without telling me why
Christian ... Vista knows what is best for you. Obviously it thought you had been spending far too much time on the internet, and thereby, lowering your performance index. Vista has merely automatically adjusted your "user experience" to improve your productivity. Remember Christian, Microsoft Windows Vista is your friend. It has been programmed with your best interests in mind, and knows what is right and wrong, and what you should and should not be doing. Now, having said that ... get back to work, before Vista optimizes you out of the equation. ;P
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hmmm but on Windows XP when Flash misbehave you get a visual error dump as the host app. is crashing.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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"Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16512, time stamp 0x46807103, faulting module Flash9c.ocx, version 9.0.45.0, time stamp 0x45db8560, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00187d1b, process id 0xb60, application start time 0x01c7f4563ebaffcb." It was Flash. The other app I noticed disappear doesn't have an entry, but this explains where IE went. Funny, unless some CP ads were Flash, I didn't have a site with Flash open.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
I guess this shines some [Silver]light on the Flash problem.
only two letters away from being an asset
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hmmm but on Windows XP when Flash misbehave you get a visual error dump as the host app. is crashing.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Yes, I certainly expected some sort of message to tell me what was going wrong, is the core concern.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I guess this shines some [Silver]light on the Flash problem.
only two letters away from being an asset
Hmmmm.... IE crashes and blames Flash, people download Silverlight....
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Yes, I certainly expected some sort of message to tell me what was going wrong, is the core concern.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Vista is sounding more and more like a wife (the bad kind) everyday. Silent failure. You have to dig to find out what you did wrong.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Hmmmm.... IE crashes and blames Flash, people download Silverlight....
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Silverlight crashes Firefox. Firefox blames Silverlight. People switch to Internet Explorer. OMG. The plans for world domination, revealed!
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Hmmmm.... IE crashes and blames Flash, people download Silverlight....
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
It's called innovation ;P
only two letters away from being an asset
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Yeah, I see that Flash is the issue. However, it's not the only program that does it. I'm unconvinced that there isn't some underlying issue, even if it's not just Vista compatibility issues causing some programs to crash and silently disappear.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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For a while I thought I was just going mad, but I'm now certain. Vista, at times, just closes programs without telling me why. I know for sure, because this time it was the IE instance I had CP and my mail running in. IE would prompt to ask if you want all tabs closed, and I definately did not see that, so there's no way I clicked it by accident. It's just gone. I guess IE was the weakest link. I can buy into that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
For a while I thought I was just going mad, but I'm now certain.
... so now you're certain you're mad? ;P
Cheers, विक्रम
Be yourself, no matter what they say. - Sting, Englishman in New York.
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"Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16512, time stamp 0x46807103, faulting module Flash9c.ocx, version 9.0.45.0, time stamp 0x45db8560, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00187d1b, process id 0xb60, application start time 0x01c7f4563ebaffcb." It was Flash. The other app I noticed disappear doesn't have an entry, but this explains where IE went. Funny, unless some CP ads were Flash, I didn't have a site with Flash open.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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"Faulting application iexplore.exe, version 7.0.6000.16512, time stamp 0x46807103, faulting module Flash9c.ocx, version 9.0.45.0, time stamp 0x45db8560, exception code 0xc0000005, fault offset 0x00187d1b, process id 0xb60, application start time 0x01c7f4563ebaffcb." It was Flash. The other app I noticed disappear doesn't have an entry, but this explains where IE went. Funny, unless some CP ads were Flash, I didn't have a site with Flash open.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Current version is 9.0.47.0. Flash regularly has security issues, so you should stay on top of it. I don't think Windows Vista has any 'silently kill application on error' options - you should have seen the 'preparing error report' dialog even if it was a DEP issue. There's a 'problem reports' centre somewhere in Control Panel to allow you to check for solutions which allows the report upload to be deferred (unlike the XP version which required you to be online when the problem occurred). Some devious ISVs are changing the unhandled exception filter and silently exiting, rather than allowing an error report to be prepared, however. I'm sure I read somewhere that some common plugin was doing that, but I can't recall if it was Flash or QuickTime or what.
Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder