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  • G Gary R Wheeler

    I think I've got everything he ever wrote. I'm quite the fan. My personal favorites: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Time Enough for Love Starship Troopers (before you ask, yes, the movie sucked) Friday Even the stuff from Heinlein that was, well, crap was readable and fun (I'm thinking The Number of the Beast and later here).


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    I was an avid fan back about 22 years ago and read everything I could get my hands on from the library, also Dick, Vonnegut, Simak, Bradbury at the time, then went on to William Gibson and the like and kind of forgot about Heinlein until a discussion about Starship Troopers came up with the guy who built our gazebo when we were discussing Old man's war by John Scalzi[^] which it reminded him of when I described it (an excellent book and series I highly recommend them) and I realized it was high time I really get down to it, get every Heinlein novel and read them through again. I've got 28 coming in over the next week from here and there, but I'll still be short a few of the early stuff from the 40's to the 50's. Can't wait to sink my eyes into them. I never did see the movie Starship Troopers so I guess I didn't miss anything. Once you've read enough Heinlein and *get* what he's trying to do then stuff like Number of the Beast is definitely readable. I recall Stranger in a Strange Land being my favorite at the time, interesting to see if my tastes have changed or not after all these years.


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    • C Chris Austin

      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

      Welcome, brother!

      Thank you. And that is just about the most palatable quote I could find without being sent on forced migration to the soapbox :)

      My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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      How about:


      Never trust machinery more complicated than a knife and fork. - Jubal Harshaw in Stranger in a Strange Land

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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        I think I've got everything he ever wrote. I'm quite the fan. My personal favorites: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Time Enough for Love Starship Troopers (before you ask, yes, the movie sucked) Friday Even the stuff from Heinlein that was, well, crap was readable and fun (I'm thinking The Number of the Beast and later here).


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        Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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        I actually liked Number of the Beast. Friday is also a personal favorite. I haven't read a lot of Heinlien though. Flynn


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        • M Marc Clifton

          I could never get into Heinlein. I found his writing really dull. But I think I'm unique there, because everyone else I know loves his stuff. Maybe I should give it another try. Marc

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          I agree: read most of his book as a kid and found they were not a patch on Asimov, Clarke or Niven/Pournelle. Frankly his style of writing is turgid and uninteresting. Just an opinion, fwiw.

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          • C Chris Losinger

            John Cardinal wrote:

            they'd send it back

            no... they'd send it to the US! Molson is synonymous with "skunk" in the US. do they have huge sunlights in the brewery ? even the Molson cans are skunked.

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            WTH is "skunked"? Sounds like you guys need better pest control... ;P

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              Actually there are all sorts of Molson beers here in Canada so I dont' know which one you mean, but I've never had a skunky beer out of a can before. TBH I don't drink Molson anything, out west here and really specifically here in this northern half of Vancouver Island Lucky lager[^] is the definitive beer out here. It's cheap and not too bad, but when I want a decent beer I buy a Stella or something funky like a microbrewery honey ale in a giant bottle. Purportedly were all supposed to drink Kokanee out here in BC but I suspect more easterners drink it than anyone else because I almost never see anybody here drinking it even though it's made here. It was big 20 years ago. The single saddest thing I think I've seen beer wise lately is a lot of younger people drinking Budweiser which is a dagger to my beer loving heart. If I was at a party and given a choice between budweiser and weasel piss I'd honestly think twice.


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              John Cardinal wrote:

              If I was at a party and given a choice between budweiser and weasel piss I'd honestly think twice.

              If i was at a party and given the choice between Bud and weasel piss, i'd really be wondering what the hell kind of party i was at...

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                I was an avid fan back about 22 years ago and read everything I could get my hands on from the library, also Dick, Vonnegut, Simak, Bradbury at the time, then went on to William Gibson and the like and kind of forgot about Heinlein until a discussion about Starship Troopers came up with the guy who built our gazebo when we were discussing Old man's war by John Scalzi[^] which it reminded him of when I described it (an excellent book and series I highly recommend them) and I realized it was high time I really get down to it, get every Heinlein novel and read them through again. I've got 28 coming in over the next week from here and there, but I'll still be short a few of the early stuff from the 40's to the 50's. Can't wait to sink my eyes into them. I never did see the movie Starship Troopers so I guess I didn't miss anything. Once you've read enough Heinlein and *get* what he's trying to do then stuff like Number of the Beast is definitely readable. I recall Stranger in a Strange Land being my favorite at the time, interesting to see if my tastes have changed or not after all these years.


                "I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon

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                John Cardinal wrote:

                Old man's war by John Scalzi

                Very, very :cool:. I hope Scalzi gets off his butt and writes more, I'm going into withdrawal here...

                John Cardinal wrote:

                I never did see the movie Starship Troopers so I guess I didn't miss anything.

                No you didn't. They turned it into a generic Hollywood CG-generated-monster shoot'em-up.


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                • F Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe

                  I actually liked Number of the Beast. Friday is also a personal favorite. I haven't read a lot of Heinlien though. Flynn


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                  The Number of the Beast was fun. I just don't think it was as good as some of his older stuff. Of the final books he wrote, I think Friday was the best.


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                  • G Gary R Wheeler

                    I think I've got everything he ever wrote. I'm quite the fan. My personal favorites: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress Time Enough for Love Starship Troopers (before you ask, yes, the movie sucked) Friday Even the stuff from Heinlein that was, well, crap was readable and fun (I'm thinking The Number of the Beast and later here).


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                    Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                    Starship Troopers (before you ask, yes, the movie sucked)

                    There never has been a movie version of Starship Troopers.

                    -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      The Number of the Beast was fun. I just don't think it was as good as some of his older stuff. Of the final books he wrote, I think Friday was the best.


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                      I agree - Friday is a great book, one of a very few that I can happily re-read time after time.

                      Matt

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                      • M Matthew Bache

                        I agree - Friday is a great book, one of a very few that I can happily re-read time after time.

                        Matt

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                        Indeed. I went on a week-long bicycle tour back in June. Get up at 5:30, eat a huge stack of pancakes, ride 50-60 miles, set up camp, play tourist for a few hours, read* until dark, sleep, repeat. My idea of the perfect vacation. * This year I took a bunch of Heinleins with me. I reread The Past Through Tomorrow, Time Enough for Love, and a couple of his 'juvenile' novels (The Star Beast, Have Space Suit: Will Travel).


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                        • G Gary Wheeler

                          The Number of the Beast was fun. I just don't think it was as good as some of his older stuff. Of the final books he wrote, I think Friday was the best.


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                          Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                          That might explain it then. I haven't read much of his stuff other than Number of the Beast and Friday, heh. Flynn


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                          • P Paddy Boyd

                            John Cardinal wrote:

                            If I was at a party and given a choice between budweiser and weasel piss I'd honestly think twice.

                            If i was at a party and given the choice between Bud and weasel piss, i'd really be wondering what the hell kind of party i was at...

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                            :laugh:


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                            • D Dan Neely

                              Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

                              Starship Troopers (before you ask, yes, the movie sucked)

                              There never has been a movie version of Starship Troopers.

                              -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Ah. I see your point. :)


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                              • C Chris Austin

                                NICE! Funny enough I just finished "JOB: A Comedy of Justice", it was much better than I expected. Now, I plan on listening to the audio book version of "Time Enough for Love" that my wife gave me for my birthday this month.

                                My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                                Andy_L_J
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                                :)Loved Job - Read it in my teens after few years worth of Sunday School in NZ - The irony was not lost...still isnt.

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                                • G Gary Wheeler

                                  Indeed. I went on a week-long bicycle tour back in June. Get up at 5:30, eat a huge stack of pancakes, ride 50-60 miles, set up camp, play tourist for a few hours, read* until dark, sleep, repeat. My idea of the perfect vacation. * This year I took a bunch of Heinleins with me. I reread The Past Through Tomorrow, Time Enough for Love, and a couple of his 'juvenile' novels (The Star Beast, Have Space Suit: Will Travel).


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                                  Andy_L_J
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                                  I loved Have Space Suit... and Starship Troopers. They should be made into Graphic novels.:-D

                                  Keakaha

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