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  • S Shog9 0

    ...and then quietly tell the advanced users to use the beginner forum, since it's certain all the beginners will make a beeline for the advanced... :rolleyes:

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    I don't care what you consider witty, but at least I do not blather on posting nonsense like Jim Crafton.

    -- Stringcheese, humbled by Crafton's ability to string together multiple sentences

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    Most beginners are not as honest as you are.

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      Most beginners are not as honest as you are.

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      I no longer begrudge others their inability to match my greatness... :rolleyes:

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      I don't care what you consider witty, but at least I do not blather on posting nonsense like Jim Crafton.

      -- Stringcheese, humbled by Crafton's ability to string together multiple sentences

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        I no longer begrudge others their inability to match my greatness... :rolleyes:

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        I don't care what you consider witty, but at least I do not blather on posting nonsense like Jim Crafton.

        -- Stringcheese, humbled by Crafton's ability to string together multiple sentences

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        You are an excellent example of the Dunning Kruger Effect

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          You are an excellent example of the Dunning Kruger Effect

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          Aw shucks, Kyle - just call me Dutch Oven. :rolleyes:

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          I don't care what you consider witty, but at least I do not blather on posting nonsense like Jim Crafton.

          -- Stringcheese, humbled by Crafton's ability to string together multiple sentences

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            Aw shucks, Kyle - just call me Dutch Oven. :rolleyes:

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            I don't care what you consider witty, but at least I do not blather on posting nonsense like Jim Crafton.

            -- Stringcheese, humbled by Crafton's ability to string together multiple sentences

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            Pathetic, but don't worry, I didn't expect you to be able to read such long words.

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              Pathetic, but don't worry, I didn't expect you to be able to read such long words.

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              :laugh: Don't worry, it'll come to you...

              You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                :laugh: Don't worry, it'll come to you...

                You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                Yes, it was obvious that you were trying (quite unsuccessfully) to be witty. Even Captain See Sharp is better at that than you.

                just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                • M Michael Schubert

                  I only visit Code Project from time to time nowadays but a couple of years ago when I did more (C++) programming, I got plenty of useful information from the articles hosted here. However, I only asked a question once or twice in the forums when I was stuck and couldn't get the info from Google or MSDN. I noticed in the VC++ forum (might be the same in other forums) that people are asking *very* basic questions frequently, stuff that one could easily find in books, MSDN or Google. Also, some guys seem to think that they should be able to write advanced code without even having basic knowledge of the language they are using. I'm curious, is this just just lazyness or are these guys under so much pressure that they don't have time to research properly or learn the basics first? Michael

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                  Michael H. Schubert wrote:

                  I noticed in the VC++ forum (might be the same in other forums) that people are asking *very* basic questions frequently, stuff that one could easily find in books, MSDN or Google. Also, some guys seem to think that they should be able to write advanced code without even having basic knowledge of the language they are using.

                  All unmoderated forums and discussion groups are like that. If you want a place with high quality discussions on C++, see the comp.lang.c++.moderated news group (a Google interface to the group)[^]


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                  • L Lost User

                    Yes, it was obvious that you were trying (quite unsuccessfully) to be witty. Even Captain See Sharp is better at that than you.

                    just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                    Yes, i suppose i do need to up the usage of "pimp" in my posts. BTW - love the new sig. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy...

                    You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                      Yes, i suppose i do need to up the usage of "pimp" in my posts. BTW - love the new sig. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy...

                      You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                      Isn't it ironic that you were scolding jason_lakewhitney for getting sucked into an argument with me the other day?

                      just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                        Isn't it ironic that you were scolding jason_lakewhitney for getting sucked into an argument with me the other day?

                        just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                        Naw, that would only be ironic if we were arguing. My graceful acceptance of your gushing admiration is slightly surprising, but... well, we already discussed that.

                        You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                          Naw, that would only be ironic if we were arguing. My graceful acceptance of your gushing admiration is slightly surprising, but... well, we already discussed that.

                          You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                          You replied to my troll post. You told him to stop replying to my troll post.

                          just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                          • G Gary R Wheeler

                            The 'quality' of the questions in the C++ forum has steadily gone downhill. The number of homework questions and 'I need the source code for Microsoft Excel' requests have risen quite a bit. As others have mentioned, it appears there are a lot of very junior or poorly trained programmers being dumped into projects with significant technical challenges. Chris's guidelines at the top of the forum are ignored :(.


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                            Scott Dorman
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                            The quality of questions in all of the forums has steadily gone downhill.

                            Scott.


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                              You replied to my troll post. You told him to stop replying to my troll post.

                              just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                              And what, exactly, do you think you're doing?

                              You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                              • M Michael Schubert

                                I only visit Code Project from time to time nowadays but a couple of years ago when I did more (C++) programming, I got plenty of useful information from the articles hosted here. However, I only asked a question once or twice in the forums when I was stuck and couldn't get the info from Google or MSDN. I noticed in the VC++ forum (might be the same in other forums) that people are asking *very* basic questions frequently, stuff that one could easily find in books, MSDN or Google. Also, some guys seem to think that they should be able to write advanced code without even having basic knowledge of the language they are using. I'm curious, is this just just lazyness or are these guys under so much pressure that they don't have time to research properly or learn the basics first? Michael

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                                Scott Dorman
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                                It's the same in the other forums as well. I don't know if it's laziness or not, but it seems that the majority of the questions come from people who don't have the faintest idea of how to program (what are traditionally called "monkey programmers", in the negative sense of that term) trying to pass themselves off as professional programmers and getting lost in the basics of language syntax and OOP concepts. There was a long discussion in the lounge about this not too long ago (The code monkeys are invading![^] A similar trend is occuring with people thinking that earning a Microsoft Certification proves they know how to program and think that since they've been "programming" for 6 months to a year they should get their certification...except they don't have a clue which certification to get or how to go about getting any of the relevant information.

                                Scott.


                                —In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday. [Forum Guidelines] [Articles] [Blog]

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                                • M Michael Schubert

                                  I only visit Code Project from time to time nowadays but a couple of years ago when I did more (C++) programming, I got plenty of useful information from the articles hosted here. However, I only asked a question once or twice in the forums when I was stuck and couldn't get the info from Google or MSDN. I noticed in the VC++ forum (might be the same in other forums) that people are asking *very* basic questions frequently, stuff that one could easily find in books, MSDN or Google. Also, some guys seem to think that they should be able to write advanced code without even having basic knowledge of the language they are using. I'm curious, is this just just lazyness or are these guys under so much pressure that they don't have time to research properly or learn the basics first? Michael

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  You can't rule out a combination of lazy, lack of time and rampant stupidity. That's a powerful combination that we should be able to harness so that it serves some purpose other than instilling the overriding urge to hunt the poster down and prevent them from polluting the gene pool in any way.

                                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                    And what, exactly, do you think you're doing?

                                    You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...

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                                    Gary Kirkham
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                                    Nice way to spend a Sunday, trolling for trolls. :)

                                    Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                      Nice way to spend a Sunday, trolling for trolls. :)

                                      Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                      I thought of you the other day while i was conjuring up demons and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

                                      just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                                        I thought of you the other day while i was conjuring up demons and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

                                        just call me Dutch Oven - Shog9, baffled by the term "Dunning Kruger"

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                                        lost in transition
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                                        INITCOMMONCONTROLSEX wrote:

                                        conjuring up demons

                                        Oh thats sweet, did you have fun.


                                        God Bless, Jason
                                        I am not perfect but I try to be better than those before me. So those who come after me will be better than I am.

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                                        • C code frog 0

                                          It's called evolution. Give it time. They'll be dead soon (from the career perspective) and then things will get better. Yes, as the global economy emerges we are seeing a lot of this. Outsourcing is the biggest problem and India is the epicenter of it. India has some fantastic talent and the huge emergence of outsourcing there has allowed a lot of lousy developers to find work just to meet the demand. But in conversations I have had with Indians and even Chinese they are starting to get a better grip on those types of developers and they are starting to refine the quality/quantity of work coming out of India/China. We are in a state of flux right now where some very high end outsourcing companies in India are trimming the fat which is allowing those under qualified workers a shot at trying to grab smaller projects on their own. I get calls from them weekly. In time this will flatten out and things should get better here. In general quality developers are going to be in short supply around the world soon and that will make life easier on all of us.

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                                          Talking of which I've just got the Darwin Awards dvd :cool:

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