Holding the door, how close?
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John M. Drescher wrote:
...I will generally hold the door if it requires a badge swipe or key card to enter.
With some companies (e.g., Microsoft, BC/BS), this will get you in serious trouble.
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Depends how well-endowed she is.
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In addition to what the previous two posters said I will generally hold the door if it requires a badge swipe or key card to enter. As far as being 30 feet away sometimes I will and sometimes I will not. If its is a good looking woman 100% of the time I will hold the door. It also depends on if I am in a hurry or not. If I do hold the door and they are 30+ feet away I usually at that point tell the person that they do not have to run.
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John M. Drescher wrote:
In addition to what the previous two posters said I will generally hold the door if it requires a badge swipe or key card to enter.
that is the one time you should NOT hold a door open for someone. Have you been letting the mice, squirrels and vinegaroons in?
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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It's hard to tell with most she-males in public isn't it? ;) (endowed is as far as I know is universally used in reference to the male organ)
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John Cardinal wrote:
endowed
It's down to context, see. Very few women have male organs so it clearly doesn't mean that.
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What is the proper etiquette for how from the door you should hold it for someone? Today I was about 30 feet away from a door and someone held the door for me. That’s about 7 seconds away. I felt obligated to rush to the door then a little upset that I did rush (I hadn’t had my coffee yet!). So I was wondering what everyone thought the door holding etiquette is in today’s society? Just Curiious
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Joe Q wrote:
What is the proper etiquette for how from the door you should hold it for someone?
I don't know if there is any rules, it all comes down to politeness. Who you are polite to, and probably also how much time you have on your hands. I will generally hold the door open for anyone. If I get to the door first, I hold it open and let them in first. It doesn't matter boss, general, private, or buxom blonde bombshell (or buxom blonde female for that matter). This has gotten me in trouble at times. Politeness is a dying breed I fear. Back in college in the 80's there was a lady with a stack of books going into the library. She was struggling to carry them all, all the way up to her chin. So I passed her, reached the door, and openned it for her. She gave me such a dirty look for presuming she was helpless, and huffed at me and said something, though the words are long since forgotten. Something intellectually close to me being a male chauvenist (or however you spell that). So I let the door go and walked inside without a response. I would have held that door for anyone, male, female, young or old. With that many books it would be difficult for someone to enter through the door. The doors were glass, so her joy at defending her own honor quickly diminished when she realized she had to hold the books with a knee and a hand while throwing the door open, without spilling any books, and then transfer back to her hand so she could walk with that leg. It took her several tries. I was careful not to help her again. :) Though since both of us were regulars to the library I think she realized that I did that for anyone else. I never stopped to find out if her opinion had changed.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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John Cardinal wrote:
endowed
It's down to context, see. Very few women have male organs so it clearly doesn't mean that.
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Well it's their own fault if this is their idea of high security. Nothing less than an airlock type system where you have to close the first door to open the second is going to be any kind of security at all.
Modo vincis, modo vinceris.
John Cardinal wrote:
Nothing less than an airlock type system where you have to close the first door to open the second is going to be any kind of security at all.
I disagree, soldiers are bored, give them a chance to draw their weapon, and they are overjoyed. This is a very BAD type of joy to give to a soldier when you are on the receiving end....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Depends if it's somebody higher ranking than you, then yes, somebody you like, yes female, yes carrying something heavy, yes all others, no.
Chuck Norris counted to infinity - twice.
One should hold the door equally for anyone.
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One should hold the door equally for anyone.
For me this is true if the person is less than 10 feet away but after that there are some rules I follow.
John
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For me this is true if the person is less than 10 feet away but after that there are some rules I follow.
John
Yes, but apply the rules equally.
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John Cardinal wrote:
Nothing less than an airlock type system where you have to close the first door to open the second is going to be any kind of security at all.
I disagree, soldiers are bored, give them a chance to draw their weapon, and they are overjoyed. This is a very BAD type of joy to give to a soldier when you are on the receiving end....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Joe Q wrote:
So I was wondering what everyone thought the door holding etiquette is in today’s society?
This is one of those eternal questions that will probably not be fully addressed in our lifetime. I do think, though, that by positing certain situations and possible outcomes we can arrive at an ethically neutral working societal model. The first question, as I see it, should be: "What would Chuck Norris do?"
Nothing. Doors open *for* Chuck Norris as soon as he stares at them.
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Are you implying you know a *lot* of women with male organs? Wow, quite an interesting crowd you travel in! :)
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Are you implying you know a *lot* of women with male organs? Wow, quite an interesting crowd you travel in! :)
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I'm implying that I know of the existance of a lot of people who appear completely female and would be referred to as "she" and have male organs which is why using the word "endowed" and "she" in the same sentance brings that to mind. I've never heard a woman described as being well endowed. Buxom perhaps, shapely, Rubinesque even stacked, but "endowed"?
Modo vincis, modo vinceris.
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I'm implying that I know of the existance of a lot of people who appear completely female and would be referred to as "she" and have male organs which is why using the word "endowed" and "she" in the same sentance brings that to mind. I've never heard a woman described as being well endowed. Buxom perhaps, shapely, Rubinesque even stacked, but "endowed"?
Modo vincis, modo vinceris.
OK - I was jusst razzin' you :)
John Cardinal wrote:
I've never heard a woman described as being well endowed.
Neither have I for that matter :)
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I mean security as in the discussion taking place, not security as in actually securing a building so people could be prevented from getting in.
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John Cardinal wrote:
I mean security as in the discussion taking place
There are two main reasons for security: 1) Physical security, locations, or objects that need to be protected or secured (bypassing security protocols is bad) 2) Intellectual security, ideas or concepts being developed or discussed are private and could affect the profit of the company or location (again bypassing security protocols is bad). if there is a badge to get in, the badge should be used. And I am all for chivalry and opening doors for someone, but not at the risk of any security. I have been to companies who have security for their intellectual ideas, and I have attended pre-release information meetings and have discussed with developers after the appropriate NDA's have been signed and sealed. And occasionally :rolleyes: even have to deal with the other kind of security. In either case, I don't hold doors open for those specific cases.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I'm implying that I know of the existance of a lot of people who appear completely female and would be referred to as "she" and have male organs which is why using the word "endowed" and "she" in the same sentance brings that to mind. I've never heard a woman described as being well endowed. Buxom perhaps, shapely, Rubinesque even stacked, but "endowed"?
Modo vincis, modo vinceris.
John Cardinal wrote:
but "endowed"?
I have, but it may be regional. generally reserved for one you are positive that those are natural, not surgically grown. It is used rarely because it is sometimes harder to tell.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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What is the proper etiquette for how from the door you should hold it for someone? Today I was about 30 feet away from a door and someone held the door for me. That’s about 7 seconds away. I felt obligated to rush to the door then a little upset that I did rush (I hadn’t had my coffee yet!). So I was wondering what everyone thought the door holding etiquette is in today’s society? Just Curiious
Joe Q My Blog
The interweb provides all answers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_td1X_c5Gg[^]
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Joe Q wrote:
What is the proper etiquette for how from the door you should hold it for someone?
I don't know if there is any rules, it all comes down to politeness. Who you are polite to, and probably also how much time you have on your hands. I will generally hold the door open for anyone. If I get to the door first, I hold it open and let them in first. It doesn't matter boss, general, private, or buxom blonde bombshell (or buxom blonde female for that matter). This has gotten me in trouble at times. Politeness is a dying breed I fear. Back in college in the 80's there was a lady with a stack of books going into the library. She was struggling to carry them all, all the way up to her chin. So I passed her, reached the door, and openned it for her. She gave me such a dirty look for presuming she was helpless, and huffed at me and said something, though the words are long since forgotten. Something intellectually close to me being a male chauvenist (or however you spell that). So I let the door go and walked inside without a response. I would have held that door for anyone, male, female, young or old. With that many books it would be difficult for someone to enter through the door. The doors were glass, so her joy at defending her own honor quickly diminished when she realized she had to hold the books with a knee and a hand while throwing the door open, without spilling any books, and then transfer back to her hand so she could walk with that leg. It took her several tries. I was careful not to help her again. :) Though since both of us were regulars to the library I think she realized that I did that for anyone else. I never stopped to find out if her opinion had changed.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Well done. My reaction would probably have been to suggest she do something anatomically impossible, a comparison between her ideology and that of a defunct German political party from the first half of the prior century, followed by a slammed door and gloating while she struggled. But I have a bit of a temper at times. :-O
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Well done. My reaction would probably have been to suggest she do something anatomically impossible, a comparison between her ideology and that of a defunct German political party from the first half of the prior century, followed by a slammed door and gloating while she struggled. But I have a bit of a temper at times. :-O
-- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.
dan neely wrote:
But I have a bit of a temper at times.
I have almost no temper. If you manage to find it, it is time to ask yourself how hard you had to try to find it. :) But that doesn't mean I have to take that either. :) I will take a lot, once, but I will move on rapidly. She's intitled to her opinion, she just realized what that opinion cost her a moment later. kindness should never be considered a threat, if it is, then it's time to do some rethinking.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)