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    Polite Programmer
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    I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

    Polite Programmer


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      I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

      Polite Programmer


      More Object Oriented then C#

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      Christian Graus
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      It's open for debate if working on a whole lot of technologies will give you strong skills, or just diverse skills. I'm all for learning stuff, but I'd prefer to focus on one thing and learn it well. I'd also prefer to go to a place that has good practices, you seem to imply this is the second place. Which company do you think is more likely to survive long term ?

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        It's open for debate if working on a whole lot of technologies will give you strong skills, or just diverse skills. I'm all for learning stuff, but I'd prefer to focus on one thing and learn it well. I'd also prefer to go to a place that has good practices, you seem to imply this is the second place. Which company do you think is more likely to survive long term ?

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        I think the larger one has more chances to survive for long....

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          I think the larger one has more chances to survive for long....

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          Christian Graus
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          Well, if all else looks equal, that's the one you should go for then.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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            I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

            Polite Programmer


            More Object Oriented then C#

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            cp9876
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            You're young, so as long as neither is a technological backwater or in threat of imminent receivership, go with the one that you think you can become most passionate about and will learn the most. Aim to have fun whilst growing your career - in the absence of other information it is a pretty good guide.


            Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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              You're young, so as long as neither is a technological backwater or in threat of imminent receivership, go with the one that you think you can become most passionate about and will learn the most. Aim to have fun whilst growing your career - in the absence of other information it is a pretty good guide.


              Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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              Yes I am quit young... 22 years old...

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                Yes I am quit young... 22 years old...

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                Well, anyone visited the URLs given?

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                  I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

                  Polite Programmer


                  More Object Oriented then C#

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                  Nouman Bhatti
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                  I think .Net job is the best.. bcz they are working in more professional environment

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                    Well, anyone visited the URLs given?

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                    cp9876
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                    I can't give you any advice based on the urls - there are probably very happy employees in both companies who may well be making good careers. Only you can decide which camp you think you belong to. We don't know your personal situation, if you have just signed up a mortgage and the job market is tight, or you are not confident of easily finding another job, then go for security. Alternatively, one may offer more travel opportunities than the other - and this may be important to you. Get a piece of paper, write down the positive and negative points of each job, study it on and off for a few days and then make a decision.


                    Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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                      I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

                      Polite Programmer


                      More Object Oriented then C#

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                      Hello. Your decision seems to reflect the situation of NON-Microsoft and Microsoft. The open source oriented company tends to use the tech - NON-Microsoft, and the second one is heavily fouced on Microsoft technology. In Japan, Java is the most popular development language under both Web and the stand alone application development. Financail company tends to use Java as well as pure C++. As for me, I will pick up the first one to get Java knowledge, and get the job in the global investment bank in the future in order to get the big money.

                      -Masaaki Onishi (eCoolSoft)- ASP.NET Web and Windows Application Development by C# and MFC. eCoolWebPanelBar(BETA) is availabe now. http://www.ecoolsoft.net/homepages.aspx

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                        I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

                        Polite Programmer


                        More Object Oriented then C#

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                        Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                        Go open source. .NET is easy and will be around for a while but given the chance to develop solid development skills at decent pay is hard to pass up.


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                          I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

                          Polite Programmer


                          More Object Oriented then C#

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                          Polite Programmer wrote:

                          Which one should I select?

                          Isn't this a decision that you have to make since it is going to be you doing the working? Why ask others, especially those that you do not even know?


                          "A good athlete is the result of a good and worthy opponent." - David Crow

                          "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                            I am very sorry if the question disturbts you but I seek for the advice of you geeks... Well here it goes: I am being offered by two software companies. One is working on Open Source Solution in various technologies ranging from Java, Python, C/C++ etc. The revenues come from the projects that the company takes from its clients. The company itself is quite small and with a team of 10 developers. Here is the URL: http://www.zeropoint.it The other company works on .NET Solutions. The revenues are generated by the two products named NCache and TierDeveloper. The staff is 40+ and has proper quality assurance and other departments. Here is the URL http://www.alachisoft.com Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused... the confusion is that the first company works on many technologies and this way I would have change to work on diverse areas thus will have strong technical skills. As for the second company, I feel I will be only usefull for the .NET solutions.... What do you suggest me guys? Regards,

                            Polite Programmer


                            More Object Oriented then C#

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                            Polite Programmer wrote:

                            Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused...

                            When all else is the same, check more than salary. What about benefits? Health Insurance? Group Life Insurance? Stock options? Profit Sharing? 401(k) matching? And if all those are the same.... What about future movement? (do you want to be at the same level forever?) Is the company growing? A growing company means you have the possibility for advancement without displacing someone above you, or waiting for them to move out. What about over all job security? what are the risks? What about enjoyng the work? Does either offer more job satisfaction (that maybe you enjoy going to work every day)? A job offer is the balance of risks and benefits. Salary is one of those benefits. The job I work right now has significantly higher risk. At the time the benefits and pleasure working far outweighed where I was. Even with political issues, the job is still enjoyable. The benefits outweigh the problems.

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Polite Programmer wrote:

                              Both are offering same salary... Which one should I select? I am very much confused...

                              When all else is the same, check more than salary. What about benefits? Health Insurance? Group Life Insurance? Stock options? Profit Sharing? 401(k) matching? And if all those are the same.... What about future movement? (do you want to be at the same level forever?) Is the company growing? A growing company means you have the possibility for advancement without displacing someone above you, or waiting for them to move out. What about over all job security? what are the risks? What about enjoyng the work? Does either offer more job satisfaction (that maybe you enjoy going to work every day)? A job offer is the balance of risks and benefits. Salary is one of those benefits. The job I work right now has significantly higher risk. At the time the benefits and pleasure working far outweighed where I was. Even with political issues, the job is still enjoyable. The benefits outweigh the problems.

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Well, Lets go to the benefits: The Microsoft Oriented Firm is far away the other one is quit near The Microsoft Oriented Firm has promised to increment 5,000 PKR after six months while the Open Source is promising the same after 3 months and again 5,000 PKR in next 3 months. Microsoft Oriented firm gives health insurance the other firm does not Microsoft Oriented firm gives 2 months salary as a bonus every year, while other does not. Well, one of the guy pointed out why I am asking these questions when even i don't know... So the answer is that we, the developers are a separate community tied in a different sort of brotherhood. Many of you will be far more experienced and visionary about the things then I am...

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