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  • M Maximilien

    If it's true and not a hoax, it's a heck of a leap in technology; from let's say 10 hours in 2 years with traditional batteries (following current trends) to multiple years! Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html[^]


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    Max, The question is , How much would it cost? My guess wouuld be anywhere between 100-200 dollars initially. Maybe I guess wrong. Besides that, anything to do with radiation would come into close scrutiny by regulations

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      Max, The question is , How much would it cost? My guess wouuld be anywhere between 100-200 dollars initially. Maybe I guess wrong. Besides that, anything to do with radiation would come into close scrutiny by regulations

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      Tom Deketelaere
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      I wouldn't mind paying 100-200 dollars for one of these if they do what is said. A laptop last about 3 years (sellphone even less) so never having to recharge my sellphone or laptop does sound very nice to me

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        Max, The question is , How much would it cost? My guess wouuld be anywhere between 100-200 dollars initially. Maybe I guess wrong. Besides that, anything to do with radiation would come into close scrutiny by regulations

        All things being equal, tommorrow will never equal today

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        Well, if it's $200 for a multi-year battery, it's dirt cheap!!! I'd buy 20 just in case. about the radiation, from the article, they say there is no radiation, it's not an "nuclear" fusion or fission reaction.


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        • M Maximilien

          If it's true and not a hoax, it's a heck of a leap in technology; from let's say 10 hours in 2 years with traditional batteries (following current trends) to multiple years! Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html[^]


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          I'm worried about carrying a lot of energy so close to my body. Can anyone with more physics knowledge say if it is stable?

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          • M Maximilien

            If it's true and not a hoax, it's a heck of a leap in technology; from let's say 10 hours in 2 years with traditional batteries (following current trends) to multiple years! Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html[^]


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            There's alot of stretching in the text. The breakthrough betavoltaic power cells are constructed from semiconductors and use radioisotopes as the energy source. Although betavoltaic batteries sound Nuclear they’re not, they’re neither use fission/fusion or chemical processes to produce energy and so (do not produce any radioactive or hazardous waste). Beta decay only occurs with radioactive materials. The stuff inside them is radioactive. Even assuming that at the end of the 30year lifespan the contents is mostly decayed to a stable isotope, does anyone expect that most of these won't wind up in the landfill with the 4 year old laptops they were sold with? The radioactivity might not be high enough to be a concern (less than or equal to background levels), and even if it's not as long as the containment isn't breached beta rays are easily stopped. A sheet of tinfoil is sufficient. If it's relying on containment to remain nonhazardous though it's only a matter of time before idiots manage to crack it open.

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            • D Daniel Turini

              I'm worried about carrying a lot of energy so close to my body. Can anyone with more physics knowledge say if it is stable?

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              Dan Neely
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              see my other reply. Unless it breaks open beta rays are easily contained.

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              • M Maximilien

                If it's true and not a hoax, it's a heck of a leap in technology; from let's say 10 hours in 2 years with traditional batteries (following current trends) to multiple years! Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html[^]


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                The oil barons are definitely not going to want us to get our hands on those. In fact it would not surprise me if the oil companies buy the patent...

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                  There's alot of stretching in the text. The breakthrough betavoltaic power cells are constructed from semiconductors and use radioisotopes as the energy source. Although betavoltaic batteries sound Nuclear they’re not, they’re neither use fission/fusion or chemical processes to produce energy and so (do not produce any radioactive or hazardous waste). Beta decay only occurs with radioactive materials. The stuff inside them is radioactive. Even assuming that at the end of the 30year lifespan the contents is mostly decayed to a stable isotope, does anyone expect that most of these won't wind up in the landfill with the 4 year old laptops they were sold with? The radioactivity might not be high enough to be a concern (less than or equal to background levels), and even if it's not as long as the containment isn't breached beta rays are easily stopped. A sheet of tinfoil is sufficient. If it's relying on containment to remain nonhazardous though it's only a matter of time before idiots manage to crack it open.

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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  dan neely wrote:

                  If it's relying on containment to remain nonhazardous though it's only a matter of time before idiots manage to crack it open.

                  Then we have a new set of people ready to get their Darwin Award.


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                    The oil barons are definitely not going to want us to get our hands on those. In fact it would not surprise me if the oil companies buy the patent...

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                    GuyThiebaut wrote:

                    In fact it would not surprise me if the oil companies buy the patent...

                    Which will run out eventually. If this stuff is true then it is only a matter of time before it becomes common place.


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                    • M Maximilien

                      Well, if it's $200 for a multi-year battery, it's dirt cheap!!! I'd buy 20 just in case. about the radiation, from the article, they say there is no radiation, it's not an "nuclear" fusion or fission reaction.


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                      Maximilien wrote:

                      it's not an "nuclear" fusion or fission reaction.

                      dagnabbit, but I WANTED an unlicensed nuclear particle accelerator on my back!

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                        The oil barons are definitely not going to want us to get our hands on those. In fact it would not surprise me if the oil companies buy the patent...

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                        I think your tin foil cap's coming loose. More seriously, if the material being used decays to harmless in 30years it has to be a short half life radioactive. These don't exist in nature and have to be made via a either a cooking in a nuclear reactor or a particle accelerator. The latter guzzles power like there's no tomorrow.

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                          dan neely wrote:

                          If it's relying on containment to remain nonhazardous though it's only a matter of time before idiots manage to crack it open.

                          Then we have a new set of people ready to get their Darwin Award.


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                          Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                          Then we have a new set of people ready to get their Darwin Award.

                          hey, DAD! Look, I cracked open the battery and it is warm!! feel it!! oh wow, and it leaves your hand feeling warm too! If I put it under my pillow will it keep me warm at night? :rolleyes:

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                            I think your tin foil cap's coming loose. More seriously, if the material being used decays to harmless in 30years it has to be a short half life radioactive. These don't exist in nature and have to be made via a either a cooking in a nuclear reactor or a particle accelerator. The latter guzzles power like there's no tomorrow.

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                            dan neely wrote:

                            The latter guzzles power like there's no tomorrow.

                            that's okay, so do my computers. ;P

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                              Maximilien wrote:

                              it's not an "nuclear" fusion or fission reaction.

                              dagnabbit, but I WANTED an unlicensed nuclear particle accelerator on my back!

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                              El Corazon wrote:

                              dagnabbit, but I WANTED an unlicensed nuclear particle accelerator on my back!

                              Normaly I wouldn't care about this claim, but since it's comming from you, I am afraid. Very afraid. :~


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                                Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                Then we have a new set of people ready to get their Darwin Award.

                                hey, DAD! Look, I cracked open the battery and it is warm!! feel it!! oh wow, and it leaves your hand feeling warm too! If I put it under my pillow will it keep me warm at night? :rolleyes:

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                Ahhh.. Darwin Awards... since it's a laptop, must still be used on the lap, right? Radioactive material in proximity to reproductive organs... Tim

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                                  El Corazon wrote:

                                  dagnabbit, but I WANTED an unlicensed nuclear particle accelerator on my back!

                                  Normaly I wouldn't care about this claim, but since it's comming from you, I am afraid. Very afraid. :~


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                                  dnh wrote:

                                  Normaly I wouldn't care about this claim, but since it's comming from you, I am afraid. Very afraid.

                                  Actually back in science fair days, one of my friends at Los Alamos built a miniature particle accelerator. It obvously wasn't powerful enough to do do much measuring only 4 feet in diameter.... :) I was only building lasers, 3D graphics, and experimenting with theoretical 4D constructs mathematically. :) I am harmless.... mostly! :->

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                                    Ahhh.. Darwin Awards... since it's a laptop, must still be used on the lap, right? Radioactive material in proximity to reproductive organs... Tim

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                                    Tim Carmichael wrote:

                                    Radioactive material in proximity to reproductive organs...

                                    look martha, our son has my noses.

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                                    • M Maximilien

                                      If it's true and not a hoax, it's a heck of a leap in technology; from let's say 10 hours in 2 years with traditional batteries (following current trends) to multiple years! Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html[^]


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                                      Maximilien wrote:

                                      Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery

                                      Who would want to keep power an obsolete laptop for 27 more years? What are the good uses of such battery you can think of? I think toy car is a good choice. Now you can play with your son the very same toy car your dad got you. :)

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                                      • M Maximilien

                                        If it's true and not a hoax, it's a heck of a leap in technology; from let's say 10 hours in 2 years with traditional batteries (following current trends) to multiple years! Scientists Invent 30 Year Continuous Power Laptop Battery http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-betavoltaic-10.1.html[^]


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                                        Clickity[^] No, not a complete discrediting of the technology, but to say it'd be useful as a laptop battery is not accurate.


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                                        • E El Corazon

                                          dnh wrote:

                                          Normaly I wouldn't care about this claim, but since it's comming from you, I am afraid. Very afraid.

                                          Actually back in science fair days, one of my friends at Los Alamos built a miniature particle accelerator. It obvously wasn't powerful enough to do do much measuring only 4 feet in diameter.... :) I was only building lasers, 3D graphics, and experimenting with theoretical 4D constructs mathematically. :) I am harmless.... mostly! :->

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                                          El Corazon wrote:

                                          I am harmless

                                          :~


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