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  • M Member 96

    I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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    SSLaks
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    4x 20" (1600 x 1200) I use VS 9 in three monitors at once - the middle one for code (nothing but code), the right for error list, toolbox, properties, Code Definiton window (shows definition of currently selected identifier; very useful), etc.. in a floating dockable pane, and the left for object browser and help (so I can refer to it as I code), in another floating pane. I hate widescreen - I don't like scrolling vertically.

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      I have two 32" 30" monitors. I don't think that there is any real advantage for programming, I am just here to brag. :-D -- modified at 11:35 Monday 15th October, 2007

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      Compensating for something? :laugh:


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        I guess it all depends on whether you want / need to see the debugger without the ui being overlapped or need to see multiple instances of visual studio for client server, p2p or multi tier debugging.. Personally I've gone from 2 * 21" CRT to 2 * 22" LCD's and usually get away with that. But the thought of trying to be productive on a single 17" LCD is mind bogglingly painfull in this the 21st century. But then some people probably still think punch cards where a great way to program...

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        Joey Bloggs wrote:

        punch cards where a great way to program

        You only think that until you've done your first floor sort.


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        • M Member 96

          I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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          Maximilien
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          bigger screens make the bugs look smaller.


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          • M Member 96

            I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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            Jim Mac
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            Laptop is Dell w/17" widescreen with a 1900x1200 resolution which is huge for a laptop, also have desktop streached to a 17" 4:3 monitor w/ 1280x1024 I program and 90% of work on laptop screen and watch output on other screenI also use to keep web browser and email.

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            • M Member 96

              I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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              ClockMeister
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              That's really funny - I thought I was the only one around here that preferred a single monitor. I, too, have a single 17" monitor and it's just FINE with me. I tried a dual-monitor set up for a little while and found it to be very distracting. I felt like I was spending more time moving stuff around the desktop than focusing on the thing I was working on. The other developers think I'm nuts for staying with only one monitor - but I'm told by the management that I produce at a higher rate than other developers do, so I don't think my monitor is getting in the way! BTW ... yes, I'm using Visual Studio 2005. -CB ;)

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              • M Member 96

                I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                Eric Georgiades
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                i recently bought the HP w2207 and i highly recommend it. a) there's nothing like 1680 x 1050, great space and for developing i find wide screen very appropriate b) high contrast ratio means i can turn down the brightness (all the way) and everything is still clear, easy on the eyes. c) the stand is very flexible, and big plus for my desk if u ever saw it. but for developing i prefer many monitors vs 1 big one, since at work i have 3x17" and i fit my programs nicely

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                  Compensating for something? :laugh:


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                  Gary Kirkham
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                  Monitor envy?

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                    Monitor envy?

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                    Panel envy.


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                    • M Member 96

                      I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                      AlaskaDan
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                      I use 2 22" Samsung widescreen monitors. They were $230 at TigerDirect, have 1000:1 contrast ratio and no bad pixels. I liked them so much I bought the same setup for my entire team. Not a bad pixel out of 14 monitors. Dan

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                      • M Member 96

                        I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                        I believe it really does help. Take your Visual Studio example, on a widescreen 17" laptop you are only able to see about 33 lines of code... what I have is a 21" monitor turned vertically and I can see about 86 lines of code...roughly the same resolution. The fact that I'm not scrolling around and am able to see a TON more code is great. Below is an article I found and an excerpt that I used to get justification for them to pony up the dough to buy it for me at work. It was a real pain, but that's another thread. Buy the monitor! Article ---- Gloria Mark, a University of California at Irvine instructor, later hired by Microsoft research labs and Mary Czerwinski who worked for NASA did an article on productivity. Here is the highlight -- The researchers took 15 volunteers, sat each one in front of a regular-size 15-inch monitor and had them complete a variety of tasks designed to challenge their powers of concentration - like a Web search, some cutting and pasting and memorizing a seven-digit phone number. Then the volunteers repeated these same tasks, this time using a computer with a massive 42-inch screen, as big as a plasma TV. The results? On the bigger screen, people completed the tasks at least 10 percent more quickly - and some as much as 44 percent more quickly. They were also more likely to remember the seven-digit number, which showed that the multitasking was clearly less taxing on their brains. Some of the volunteers were so enthralled with the huge screen that they begged to take it home. In two decades of research, Czerwinski had never seen a single tweak to a computer system so significantly improve a user's productivity. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/16/magazine/16guru.html?ei=5090&en=c8985a80d74cefc1&ex=1287115200&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all&adxnnlx=1129521853-ar/Jp1qnf0XCl9MGUEiLGA

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                        • M Member 96

                          I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                          Vyas Bharghava
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                          See what Jeff Atwood has here. Of course, he has been green with envy :P

                          I myself just bought a 20" Samsung SyncMaster 206BW. I'm yet to hook it up but mutliple monitors are of no use unless they are all the same height. At work I use a 20" CRT with my Dell Precision laptop docked in. Keeping Outlook open there is the only constant. I hardly use it otherwise. VS.Net 2008 seems to have better dual/multi monitor support. Regards, Vyas

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                          • M Member 96

                            I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                            Douglas Troy
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                            I have a 19" ViewSonic CRT (E90f) running at 1280x1024; nice monitor BTW. I used to use a 17" running at 1024x768, and going from the 17 to the 19 was like night and day. The real advantage is screen real estate. The larger the screen, the higher the resolution, the more text fits onto the screen at one time. Of course, the downside to this is, you might not actually be able to read the font. If I were getting a new monitor today, I would try to get a larger LCD than 19; perhaps even wide screen; I would stick with ViewSonic, because I've yet to have a single bad monitor from them. FYI - not sure this has been said or not, obviously, just getting a better monitor isn't enough ... you have to have a video card that can support the desired higher resolution, color depth and refresh rate. e.g., 1280x1024 @ 60 hertz is going to give you a headache by the end of the day 1280x1024 @ 75 hertz is easy on the eyes My 2c


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                            • M Member 96

                              I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                              Joel Palmer 0
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                              One thing not mentioned so far is the refresh rate. 60 hz is a real problem for us "near 40 guys" that have been programming/gaming for a long time. My optometrist recommended always running at a 75 hz refresh and use weaker glasses. I use a 22" dell at work and, when spanned out fully, the maximum refresh rate is 60. So, my 22" is reduced down to about a 20" so I get a good refresh rate. I use this with a laptop monitor along the side. If you are going to use just one monitor, I found it very helpful for it to have a wide screen so that all the side bars (solution explorer, etc)can be expanded without crunching the code. Also, when I use a lcd monitor (especially the large ones), I look for a lead vest before I turn it on.

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                              • M Member 96

                                I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                                El Corazon
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                                John Cardinal wrote:

                                And what size are you using for programming?

                                dual 30inch 2560x1600 on an 8800GTX OC. Advantages in big? other than fittng more? not much, but it can fit a LOT! Advantage in two displays, VERY significant for development. No one on my team has fewer than 2 monitors. As long as I have some influence, this will continue. Dual monitors allow running on one monitor and developing/debugging on the other. For debugging and tracing, and performance monitoring this is VERY efficient. There are some frame rate drops for using dual monitor on a single card, but if we need a full-speed evaluation, we just turn off one monitor, adjust efficiency for single monitor, and blast out a speed check. But for full development, my personal opinion is no developer should have less than two of what ever size. Dual 30 inch is just well... eye candy. :) mmmmm candy!!

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                                • M Member 96

                                  I currently use a 17'' lcd monitor, I'm in visual Studio all day pretty much. I'm thinking of going to a bigger monitor but I'm not sure if there is any real advantage to it. Currently my monitor is fairly close, about an arms length away or less if I'm leaning in. I hate having multiple windows in view at the same time and always run them full screen and swap instead. That would not change no matter how large my monitor is because I like to focus on one thing at a time. Is there any real advantage to having a bigger monitor for Visual Studio? And what size are you using for programming?


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                                  I code on a laptop all day, without problems. That said, I like to have a couple things open at a time which would be easier with a couple big monitors. However, working in healthcare, every time a big monitor comes in it is for someone else :(

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                                    30" Dell

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                                    El Corazon
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                                    norm .net wrote:

                                    30" Dell

                                    Only one? ;) Talk to your boss about the advantage of two.

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                                      I have two 32" 30" monitors. I don't think that there is any real advantage for programming, I am just here to brag. :-D -- modified at 11:35 Monday 15th October, 2007

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                                      Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                      I have two 32" monitors.

                                      got me beat. Who makes the 32" and at what resolutions? you run single card, dual monitor or dual to dual?

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                                        2x 20" (1600x1200) HP LCDs on the desktop. Laptop is 17" 1920x1200 plus a 19" at 1280,1024. Different coloured mice help me find the right cursor when they're side-by-side. I also do AutoCAD on these computers so that matters too. It's definitely a plus to be able to see more without scrolling. I agree with a post above - pixel count matters more than size. Also, with small pixels & small text, when it gets blurry then you're too tired - go to bed! It's a shame my Quadro will only drive 1 of the HP 30-inch displays - 2 of them would be sweet! Did someone say "SLI" ?

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                                        DontSailBackwards wrote:

                                        Did someone say "SLI" ?

                                        Unfortunately two cards in SLI will still only power one monitor as far as I know. This is a significant complaint that nVidia is attempting to address, but I have not kept up to see if they fixed it or will fix it in the next release. Last I heard they were just going to try to fix it with the next hardware release. I guess they figured you either wanted two monitors, or two cards, and if you wanted two cards with two monitors, you just pull the SLI and let one card render each display (which is pretty nice).

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                                          Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                          I have two 32" monitors.

                                          got me beat. Who makes the 32" and at what resolutions? you run single card, dual monitor or dual to dual?

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                                          I'm going to wag and say the 32's are LCD TVs with either DVI input or DVI to HDMI converters. 13xx by 768 is a popular resolution for doing that although the thought of sitting close to big chunky pixels again makes me recoil in horror. :rolleyes:

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