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  • D Dave Kreskowiak

    Cool it! This isn't a survey being done here in the forums. Microsoft is conducting a survery though, here[^]. Take it out on them!

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    Marc Clifton
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    It doesn't seem to like that I gave a "5" to "non-Microsoft content sites" for where I find the best help. It keeps repeating that page. I guess I have to be more conformant. Marc

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    • D DavidNohejl

      As my collegue suggested, there should be Bill/Steve animated character guiding us throught MSDN :-D "Developers, Developers, Developers! Do you need my assistance?"


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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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      dnh wrote:

      As my collegue suggested, there should be Bill/Steve animated character guiding us throught MSDN

      I would suggest the Office Assistant Character set be introduced again. That way, the preferred Animated Character can be chosen by the user itself to manage through the MSDN ocean with ease. Abolishing them ^ from the face of Office 2007 is a sign of diehard cruelty.:mad:

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      • D Dave Kreskowiak

        Funny, though we'd still never find anything. They'd be too busy waving pompoms in the air. I really can't stand technology cheerleaders.

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        Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

        I really can't stand technology cheerleaders.

        Stay away from here[^] then... :-D


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        • M Marc Clifton

          It doesn't seem to like that I gave a "5" to "non-Microsoft content sites" for where I find the best help. It keeps repeating that page. I guess I have to be more conformant. Marc

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          No, they want you to stay connected to the site long enough, so that they can track your IP down, and map the location via Microsoft Virtual Earth. When they said they wanted to 'fix' things, Marc, I'm not sure you understood exactly how they intended to make that happen ... Run Marc. Run. ;P


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            No, they want you to stay connected to the site long enough, so that they can track your IP down, and map the location via Microsoft Virtual Earth. When they said they wanted to 'fix' things, Marc, I'm not sure you understood exactly how they intended to make that happen ... Run Marc. Run. ;P


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            Douglas Troy wrote:

            No, they want you to stay connected to the site long enough, so that they can track your IP down, and map the location via Microsoft Virtual Earth.

            I use several IP masking services that route my traffic through Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran, with a final destination of Antarctica. Damn. No wonder my connection is so slow and everything I read is either politically biased or sensored! I wonder what Condaleeza really looks like. Marc

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            • D Dave Kreskowiak

              Cool it! This isn't a survey being done here in the forums. Microsoft is conducting a survery though, here[^]. Take it out on them!

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              Question 12 about asking for the top three areas that you'd like to see improved - My response: Why only the top three? Instead of dickin' around, why don't you improve MSDN as a whole? -- modified at 12:10 Tuesday 16th October, 2007 Conjugation of "as a whole" is "asshole". See? I was being sensitive.

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Douglas Troy wrote:

                No, they want you to stay connected to the site long enough, so that they can track your IP down, and map the location via Microsoft Virtual Earth.

                I use several IP masking services that route my traffic through Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran, with a final destination of Antarctica. Damn. No wonder my connection is so slow and everything I read is either politically biased or sensored! I wonder what Condaleeza really looks like. Marc

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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                I use several IP masking services that route my traffic through Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran, with a final destination of Antarctica.

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Damn. No wonder my connection is so slow and everything I read is either politically biased or sensored

                So, just about the only stories you're getting are about Endangered Communist Internet savvy Penguins that swear they are only building Nuclear sites to produce the energy they need to run the fusion reactors necessary to produce the proper cold they require to survive, because global warming conditions caused by the greedy, oil hungry blasphemous American dogs are heating up their homes, and destroying their entire ecosystem!?! Oh wait ... that's supposed to go into the Soapbox, isn't it. :rolleyes:


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                • D Douglas Troy

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  I use several IP masking services that route my traffic through Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran, with a final destination of Antarctica.

                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                  Damn. No wonder my connection is so slow and everything I read is either politically biased or sensored

                  So, just about the only stories you're getting are about Endangered Communist Internet savvy Penguins that swear they are only building Nuclear sites to produce the energy they need to run the fusion reactors necessary to produce the proper cold they require to survive, because global warming conditions caused by the greedy, oil hungry blasphemous American dogs are heating up their homes, and destroying their entire ecosystem!?! Oh wait ... that's supposed to go into the Soapbox, isn't it. :rolleyes:


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                  Douglas Troy wrote:

                  So, just about the only stories you're getting

                  You got it. The krill are dying off, killing the entire ecosystem! But I still want to know, is Condaleeza actually GWB the third or not? Marc

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Douglas Troy wrote:

                    So, just about the only stories you're getting

                    You got it. The krill are dying off, killing the entire ecosystem! But I still want to know, is Condaleeza actually GWB the third or not? Marc

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                    Marc Clifton wrote:

                    is Condaleeza actually GWB the third or not?

                    Well, that would explain the hairy legs ... :~


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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      It doesn't seem to like that I gave a "5" to "non-Microsoft content sites" for where I find the best help. It keeps repeating that page. I guess I have to be more conformant. Marc

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                      El Corazon
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      It keeps repeating that page

                      it wants you to give the site name, that is all. So they know who to buy out or destroy. ;P

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      • D Dave Kreskowiak

                        Cool it! This isn't a survey being done here in the forums. Microsoft is conducting a survery though, here[^]. Take it out on them!

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                        Member 96
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                        This is far from the first survey on the msdn documentation, they ignored all my suggestions the last time, why bother again? :)


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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          Dave Kreskowiak wrote:

                          I really can't stand technology cheerleaders.

                          A - fuckin' - men.

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                          bscaer
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                          Please clean up your language.

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                          • B bscaer

                            Please clean up your language.

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                            Why, was it unclear for you? :) Perhaps you'd prefer a hearty "Froozle Fraglelbarts!"? :)

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                              This is far from the first survey on the msdn documentation, they ignored all my suggestions the last time, why bother again? :)


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                              John Cardinal wrote:

                              This is far from the first survey on the msdn documentation, they ignored all my suggestions the last time, why bother again?

                              because it was the first one I answered. They have been waiting for my opinion, silly. ;P

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                              • D Douglas Troy

                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                is Condaleeza actually GWB the third or not?

                                Well, that would explain the hairy legs ... :~


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                                And with that you've just completely *RUINED* my lunch hour. Thanks Doug!!! Now someone is going to have to mention Salma, Monica or Halle (or any combination thereof) to get things back in kilter!

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                                  And with that you've just completely *RUINED* my lunch hour. Thanks Doug!!! Now someone is going to have to mention Salma, Monica or Halle (or any combination thereof) to get things back in kilter!

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                                  Salma, Monica or Halle

                                  Well shoot ... guess I'll just skip posting that bikini clad picture I have of Jessica Alba ... not that it's much of a bikini ... more like ... say ... dental floss. Oh well; sorry I couldn't help. :->


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                                  • D Douglas Troy

                                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                                    Salma, Monica or Halle

                                    Well shoot ... guess I'll just skip posting that bikini clad picture I have of Jessica Alba ... not that it's much of a bikini ... more like ... say ... dental floss. Oh well; sorry I couldn't help. :->


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                                    Douglas Troy wrote:

                                    Jessica Alba

                                    Nah, she looks too much like a teeny-bopper. Fine if you're a high school junior, but she's got none of the va-voom of the Triumvirate!

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                                    • D Douglas Troy

                                      No, they want you to stay connected to the site long enough, so that they can track your IP down, and map the location via Microsoft Virtual Earth. When they said they wanted to 'fix' things, Marc, I'm not sure you understood exactly how they intended to make that happen ... Run Marc. Run. ;P


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                                      Douglas Troy wrote:

                                      map the location via Microsoft Virtual Earth.

                                      No worries. He's quite safe...

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                                      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                        dnh wrote:

                                        As my collegue suggested, there should be Bill/Steve animated character guiding us throught MSDN

                                        I would suggest the Office Assistant Character set be introduced again. That way, the preferred Animated Character can be chosen by the user itself to manage through the MSDN ocean with ease. Abolishing them ^ from the face of Office 2007 is a sign of diehard cruelty.:mad:

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                                        So that that clip which haunted me in my dreams can return there, right? :mad: ;)

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                                        • D Dave Kreskowiak

                                          Cool it! This isn't a survey being done here in the forums. Microsoft is conducting a survery though, here[^]. Take it out on them!

                                          A guide to posting questions on CodeProject[^]
                                          Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP Visual Developer - Visual Basic
                                               2006, 2007

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                                          Thanks for that link. I hope it will be useful ? But, as a french I have a big problem with automatic translation from english to french on MSDN online. Often it's unreadable (pour ne pas dire tout simplement incompréhensible, inintelligible, illisible !). I have to type the number of the KB in its english version to get the original text in english which unfortunately makes me loose some time as I take about twice the time to read the same text in french. Can't they employ human translators ? OK, they already have a huge amount of texts to translate but if they never translate it correctly, I'm sorry to say that they don't fit my needs. What do you think about that "language barrier" (english or die) ?

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