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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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    Thunderbox666
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    #1 seems most logical

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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      Phil Martin
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      WEllllll, for a modern language, I would expect CopyObjectArrayToRecord(object[], record) But, if I were in C (and not C++), I would fully expect it to be CopyObjectArrayToRecord(record*, object*), or more likely objrecncpy :) - Phil

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      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

        I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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        Dinobot_Slag
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        Is the intent here to present a hardheaded boss/co-worker with a shower of opinions supporting your own, from an independent panel of developers? I sure hope so! :laugh:

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          Is the intent here to present a hardheaded boss/co-worker with a shower of opinions supporting your own, from an independent panel of developers? I sure hope so! :laugh:

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          Dinobot_Slag wrote:

          with a shower of opinions supporting your own

          Yes:)

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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            Anthony Mushrow
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            Id have to go with 1 as well.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

              I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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              Miszou
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              ObjectArray.CopyToArray( record ); ;P


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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                Dinobot_Slag wrote:

                with a shower of opinions supporting your own

                Yes:)

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                Thunderbox666
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                So which one should we be agreeing with?

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Well, bucking the trend (as usual), whatever it's called, I would expect the destination (target) object to be the first parameter. So, #2! :-D [edit]And sadly, in C#, Array.Copy takes the source array as the first parameter. Which leads me to end of teeth gnashing because I liked the platform SDK's consistency of having the destination as the first parameter, such as in the BitBlt function or, in the C/C++ language, another example is the memcpy function. So, here's another perfect example of how the designers of C# BLEW IT!!![/edit] Marc

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                  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                    I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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                    martin_hughes
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                    I use Intellisense, earn lots of money, sleep in a big comfy bed with my wife and don't tend to worry about these things :)

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                      Well, bucking the trend (as usual), whatever it's called, I would expect the destination (target) object to be the first parameter. So, #2! :-D [edit]And sadly, in C#, Array.Copy takes the source array as the first parameter. Which leads me to end of teeth gnashing because I liked the platform SDK's consistency of having the destination as the first parameter, such as in the BitBlt function or, in the C/C++ language, another example is the memcpy function. So, here's another perfect example of how the designers of C# BLEW IT!!![/edit] Marc

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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      Well, bucking the trend (as usual), whatever it's called, I would expect the destination (target) object to be the first parameter.

                      Wouldn't you call it IntoRecordCopyObjectArray() then... ;P

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                        ObjectArray.CopyToArray( record ); ;P


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                        Bah! Madness! record.AddCopyOfObjectArray(array)

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                          So which one should we be agreeing with?

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                          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                            I want to know what makes most sense for developers: Before you arm yourself and point it to be a programming question let me say that this is not a programming question. I have a function named CopyObjectArrayToRecord, it takes two parameters: an object array and a record. Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be: 1. array, record 2. record, array

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                            Hans Dietrich
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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                            Just based on the name what do you expect the order of parameters to be

                            I wouldn't have any expectation - I would look at the definition. :) You could make a case for either one. For example, the CRT has functions

                            char *strcpy( char *strDestination, const char *strSource );

                            void *memcpy( void *dest, const void *src, size_t count );

                            while Win32 has function

                            VOID CopyMemory(PVOID Destination, CONST VOID* Source, SIZE_T Length);

                            but also has function

                            BOOL CopyFile(LPCTSTR lpExistingFileName, LPCTSTR lpNewFileName, BOOL bFailIfExists);

                            I think the more important question is, what do other functions in your namespace do? It would be a source of confusion/bugs if one function did it one way, while all others did it another way.

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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              Well, bucking the trend (as usual), whatever it's called, I would expect the destination (target) object to be the first parameter.

                              Wouldn't you call it IntoRecordCopyObjectArray() then... ;P

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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              Wouldn't you call it IntoRecordCopyObjectArray() then...

                              Nah. In fact, I'd just call it "Copy" and let the args tell me what its copying and from and to. Marc

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                                Shog9 wrote:

                                Wouldn't you call it IntoRecordCopyObjectArray() then...

                                Nah. In fact, I'd just call it "Copy" and let the args tell me what its copying and from and to. Marc

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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                In fact, I'd just call it "Copy" and let the args tell me what its copying and from and to.

                                Yeah, that's probably the least idiotic method. So long as you don't, say, wrap your static copy method in the wrong class...

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                                  Thunderbox666
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                                  :) good thing i said #1 then

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                                    WEllllll, for a modern language, I would expect CopyObjectArrayToRecord(object[], record) But, if I were in C (and not C++), I would fully expect it to be CopyObjectArrayToRecord(record*, object*), or more likely objrecncpy :) - Phil

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                                    Jim Crafton
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                                    Phil Martin... wrote:

                                    I were in C (and not C++)

                                    I think you mean: int obj_rec_n_cpy(void*, void*, int);

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                                      Number one makes the most sense to me.

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                                      idontbelivethateverynameiwantistaken
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                                      True that.

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                                        True that.

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                                        LMFAO... surely you could find one name that wasn't taken? How about ihavetheworldslongestscreennameanditshardtoread

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                                          Well, bucking the trend (as usual), whatever it's called, I would expect the destination (target) object to be the first parameter. So, #2! :-D [edit]And sadly, in C#, Array.Copy takes the source array as the first parameter. Which leads me to end of teeth gnashing because I liked the platform SDK's consistency of having the destination as the first parameter, such as in the BitBlt function or, in the C/C++ language, another example is the memcpy function. So, here's another perfect example of how the designers of C# BLEW IT!!![/edit] Marc

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                                          DaveX86
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                                          This convention actually drives me crazy...it should be from left to right to keep the flow natural...assembly language does it like that: MOV dst, src ...no wonder nobody uses it. It's like reading a sentence that you have to start at the beginning, then jump to the end and read back to the middle...an unnecessary direction change. :~

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