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    pjvander
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    It looks as if I may come into some funding for education and I've been consindering a Microsoft certification in .NET. I believe it is the MCPD I have been looking at. How many have their MS cert in programming and do you feel it was worth it (both educational and career -wise)? Would most likely go C#/.NET 2.0. Should I look at one of the private facilities, e.g. New Horizons, etc. or do community colleges, etc. offer such training. Any suggestions/recommendations/etc? Thanks in advance. -Peter

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      It looks as if I may come into some funding for education and I've been consindering a Microsoft certification in .NET. I believe it is the MCPD I have been looking at. How many have their MS cert in programming and do you feel it was worth it (both educational and career -wise)? Would most likely go C#/.NET 2.0. Should I look at one of the private facilities, e.g. New Horizons, etc. or do community colleges, etc. offer such training. Any suggestions/recommendations/etc? Thanks in advance. -Peter

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      Certs mean nothing imho.

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        Certs mean nothing imho.

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        Colin Angus Mackay
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        While that might be the case in your opinion, it is not the case in reality. Some companies place great importance on certifications (whether you think that is right or wrong doesn't alter the reality that they they do). Some companies need certified employees for to maintain their partership status with Microsoft.


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          It looks as if I may come into some funding for education and I've been consindering a Microsoft certification in .NET. I believe it is the MCPD I have been looking at. How many have their MS cert in programming and do you feel it was worth it (both educational and career -wise)? Would most likely go C#/.NET 2.0. Should I look at one of the private facilities, e.g. New Horizons, etc. or do community colleges, etc. offer such training. Any suggestions/recommendations/etc? Thanks in advance. -Peter

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          If you are going for a job with a Microsoft partner then certification will be useful as the more certified employees they have the more partner points they earn and the more benefits they get.


          Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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            If you are going for a job with a Microsoft partner then certification will be useful as the more certified employees they have the more partner points they earn and the more benefits they get.


            Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            Exactly! Most people have very low opinion about certifications but it does have its benefits. In fact some companies buy the transcender.com's answers and give it to their employees so that they can get certifications easily.

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              Exactly! Most people have very low opinion about certifications but it does have its benefits. In fact some companies buy the transcender.com's answers and give it to their employees so that they can get certifications easily.

              Co-Author ASP.NET AJAX in Action

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              Colin Angus Mackay
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              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              transcender.com's answers and give it to their employees so that they can get certifications easily.

              Microsoft don't ask the same questions as the Trancender mock exams. The idea of the trancender is to get you used to the exam style, not give you the actual answers.


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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                transcender.com's answers and give it to their employees so that they can get certifications easily.

                Microsoft don't ask the same questions as the Trancender mock exams. The idea of the trancender is to get you used to the exam style, not give you the actual answers.


                Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                Well that increases my respect for MS and transcender. Years back I interviewed a person for a programming job. She was an MCSD but failed miserably in the interview. Later on she explained to me that she became MCSD by buying the transcender's question and going through them.

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                  Well that increases my respect for MS and transcender. Years back I interviewed a person for a programming job. She was an MCSD but failed miserably in the interview. Later on she explained to me that she became MCSD by buying the transcender's question and going through them.

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                  That's probably true, because the questions they ask and the answers they expect are the "Microsoft way", not necessarily the way you would do it in the real world, or even best practice.

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                    If you are going for a job with a Microsoft partner then certification will be useful as the more certified employees they have the more partner points they earn and the more benefits they get.


                    Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                    I have always thought of throwing a cert on top of my Bachelor's and Master's in Computer Science. I figure it wouldn't hurt to.

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                      It looks as if I may come into some funding for education and I've been consindering a Microsoft certification in .NET. I believe it is the MCPD I have been looking at. How many have their MS cert in programming and do you feel it was worth it (both educational and career -wise)? Would most likely go C#/.NET 2.0. Should I look at one of the private facilities, e.g. New Horizons, etc. or do community colleges, etc. offer such training. Any suggestions/recommendations/etc? Thanks in advance. -Peter

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                      Hi, In the Netherlands more and more companies will only offer you a job if you are certified (MCAD or MCSD)or have a university degree in computer science.(Finding a job without is almost impossible.) So I think certification is a must and if you have the option to get certified I would go for it. I'm not certified and found out that buying books for the past 15 years was good to learn to program and gain knowledge, but not the best path to follow since it doesn't matter what you know because you don't fit in the profile requirements for a candidate when you are not certified, at least that's my experience. I recently descided to get certified and bought (as a start) a self paced training kit (XML Web services server components, Exams 70-310 / 320 ),it's the cheapest way I know. It's my quess it will take a year or so to do all the required exams. The reason for getting certified is that I will be able to do projects for companies who only want to work with certified proffessionals.

                      With friendly greetings,:) Eric Goedhart Interbritt

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                        It looks as if I may come into some funding for education and I've been consindering a Microsoft certification in .NET. I believe it is the MCPD I have been looking at. How many have their MS cert in programming and do you feel it was worth it (both educational and career -wise)? Would most likely go C#/.NET 2.0. Should I look at one of the private facilities, e.g. New Horizons, etc. or do community colleges, etc. offer such training. Any suggestions/recommendations/etc? Thanks in advance. -Peter

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                        im doing the new horizons mcsd course at the moment in brissie its quite fun :) bryce

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