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  • E Eytukan

    BoneSoft wrote:

    Utter crap. If it was even remotely political, I'd assume you got it from one of the tin-foil hat wearing kool-aid drinking conspiracy theory blogs.

    No, even if it's a crap it would be a genuine from me. Try to search for the text/keys I've posted and you will be taken to codeproject , to a message posted by vunic :cool:

    BoneSoft wrote:

    The etymology of the word I can't really speak on, but the rest of the theory that 'ties' it all together is way out there....

    If Jupiter can do it why not Saturn? Ok you seem to agree to some points to some extentst. I just read some more docs and picked up some more facts. let me throw them here and I'll recap my claim: Sat<-- Means 6. that has been clearly vindicated! Eg: -- Saturn the 6th planet. -- Saturday the 6th day of the week. -- The planet Saturn has six moons oribiting it. -- In our language(tamil), We have a common name for the satan & saturn + this one just did strike me: We also call saturday with same name. it's very much similar to the english way. It's like saying Saturn-day. Do you see a lots of 6s here? And that's how it's written as 666 in bible as evil. And a "Satan" could have evolved from this number. More over as I said, in our lang, we simply call both with the same name. So so many strong points to relate a Satan and a Saturn. It's not to depict "Saturn" to be evil, but it has some "strong" influences on human mind, which people would have found "satanic".


    Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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    Tim Craig
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    VuNic wrote:

    Saturday the 6th day of the week.

    You must have an ancient astronomy book. Saturn has at least 60 confirmed moons with several more probables.

    Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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      VuNic wrote:

      Saturday the 6th day of the week.

      You must have an ancient astronomy book. Saturn has at least 60 confirmed moons with several more probables.

      Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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      Eytukan
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      Tim Craig wrote:

      60 confirmed moons

      oops!but anyway it's a higher magnitude of 6 :->:->. lol I've put up enough interesting points.. but people are not convinced still.:sigh:


      Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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        :sigh:

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        Eytukan
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        :laugh:


        Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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        • E Eytukan

          Tim Craig wrote:

          60 confirmed moons

          oops!but anyway it's a higher magnitude of 6 :->:->. lol I've put up enough interesting points.. but people are not convinced still.:sigh:


          Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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          VuNic wrote:

          I've put up enough interesting points

          You've put up enough babble. Give it a rest.

          Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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            VuNic wrote:

            I've put up enough interesting points

            You've put up enough babble. Give it a rest.

            Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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            Eytukan
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            The same was said when he said the earth was not flat.:rolleyes:


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            • E Eytukan

              The word might have evolved from "Saturn" ? the 6th planet? I don’t think the point is just with the number but the planet. The planet Saturn, by our religion, is believed to cast it's mischievous/troubling/terrifying actives on a person. If a person undergoes a bad, traumatic time they call it like "Saturn has taken the orbit for him" something very similar to that. But the catch is this, in our language we have a common word for both "Saturn" and the "Satan". Imagine calling the planet Saturn as "Satan". Both sharing the same word. The planets may actually have an impact on people or anything on earth. Most of us would think that these planetary control thingie is ridiculous but we may have to believe it soon. Because, even the moon control the tides, the ocean->a liquid, a thing in the same state inside our brain controls our stability. And so schizophrenic patients go mad2 on these moon-controlled days-> Full moon day and new moon day. And that's why the Christians have made a link between their werewolves, vamps and the moon. I believe these werewolves are simple schizophrenic people getting into their m-square state. And in our religion, when a person is currently caught up on a satanic-window, he's asked to go round the temple n times that could be to nullify the centripetal/fugal force ot the saturn. What a research in two minutes before I go to sleep. WOW. Ok, many would hate this theory and few may support it. We need a way to let you express your opinion and how much my point is accepted. Yes!! We have this voting system. That's nice . ok Anybody who supports this vote 5. And anybody who thinks it's a crap vote 5. good night! Updates![^] r6gads, Vunic.:-D


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              Interesing. To the Romans too Saurn was the god of chaos, of reversal of fortunes. Saturnalia is a particular rite observed stil in theUK where at christmass the officers serve the soldiers their food in the canteen. The same thing at public schools too.

              Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                Interesing. To the Romans too Saurn was the god of chaos, of reversal of fortunes. Saturnalia is a particular rite observed stil in theUK where at christmass the officers serve the soldiers their food in the canteen. The same thing at public schools too.

                Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                Eytukan
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                Atlast there's someone who's not against my view. Nice :)

                fat_boy wrote:

                Saturnalia is a particular rite observed stil in theUK where at christmass the officers serve the soldiers their food in the canteen. The same thing at public schools too.

                Great. something's shared between different races, religions. They've had a common beliefs on specific things. I wish to make a study on this field but damn I'm stuck with this pc-job.:sigh: Also nobody pays you for making a study on it.that's bad.


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                • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                  You saw it in Van Helsing. Ahhh...good old Hollywood shaping our view of the world. :) For what it's worth, there's nothing in Christian Scripture (or Jewish Scripture, for that matter) about werewolves, nor anything about holding a cross against something to kill it, like you saw in Van Helsing. (The concept of having little crosses as jewelry, pendants, or charms is also a relatively modern invention. Wearing a cross around your neck would be really strange to folks in Jesus' time; it'd be akin to wearing an electric chair or guillotine around your neck today.)

                  Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  good old Hollywood shaping our view of the world

                  Good old Irish, you mean? Bram Stoker was Irish, and created Van Helsing long before movies were produced in Hollywood. :)

                  -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                  • E Eytukan

                    Btw, forget Werewolves. You have this 666 depicting evil right. Please check my reply to bonesoft, or in a line, Evil-->666<--'Sat'an<--'Sat'urn<-'Sat'urday. All 6 things. So the word "Satan" could have come from "Saturn".


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                    As has been already pointed out to you, the word/name 'Satan' comes from Hebrew; whereas the word/name 'Saturn' comes from Latin. And there is nothing inherently evil about the number 666. That number is "the number of a man's name." The Hebrews and the Greeks (and the Romans) used letters of their alphabets to represent numbers. Thus, the numeric value of one's name could be computed by simply adding together the numeric values the letters also represented.

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                      As has been already pointed out to you, the word/name 'Satan' comes from Hebrew; whereas the word/name 'Saturn' comes from Latin. And there is nothing inherently evil about the number 666. That number is "the number of a man's name." The Hebrews and the Greeks (and the Romans) used letters of their alphabets to represent numbers. Thus, the numeric value of one's name could be computed by simply adding together the numeric values the letters also represented.

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                      Eytukan
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                      The reason why I'm clinging to that point is that, we call the Saturn , the Satan and the Saturday with the just one fine name : "Shani". If someone's so annoying and troubling us, we must say "he's a Shanian". Shani-an . just like CP-ian. :-D Wont this make you think that Saturn & Satan are related?


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                      • E Eytukan

                        The reason why I'm clinging to that point is that, we call the Saturn , the Satan and the Saturday with the just one fine name : "Shani". If someone's so annoying and troubling us, we must say "he's a Shanian". Shani-an . just like CP-ian. :-D Wont this make you think that Saturn & Satan are related?


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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        They come from completely different languages that developed in isolation. Kind of makes it unlikely that they are common.

                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                        • P Pete OHanlon

                          Take a look here[^].

                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                          Judah Gabriel Himango
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                          I just checked with the brother this weekend and he confirmed 3 ancient Hebrew letters, as the article you mention does as well.

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                            They come from completely different languages that developed in isolation. Kind of makes it unlikely that they are common.

                            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                            Eytukan
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                            lol yep I get it. I was thinking why, in our languge we have a common name for all these. btw, I posted this message just for fun :-D hehe not a serious concept


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                            • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                              You saw it in Van Helsing. Ahhh...good old Hollywood shaping our view of the world. :) For what it's worth, there's nothing in Christian Scripture (or Jewish Scripture, for that matter) about werewolves, nor anything about holding a cross against something to kill it, like you saw in Van Helsing. (The concept of having little crosses as jewelry, pendants, or charms is also a relatively modern invention. Wearing a cross around your neck would be really strange to folks in Jesus' time; it'd be akin to wearing an electric chair or guillotine around your neck today.)

                              Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                              lost in transition
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                              Judah Himango wrote:

                              Hollywood shaping our view of the world.

                              For some people, Hollywood has been their mother, father, and god. It is a shame, but for some that is all they have ever known.

                              Judah Himango wrote:

                              holding a cross against something to kill it

                              Some twisted lie, I would say that it comes out of Catholicisms. How you been Judah? I read this post then, I saw it look like you have a blog entry about. I'm headed over to read it.


                              God Bless, Jason
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                                Judah Himango wrote:

                                good old Hollywood shaping our view of the world

                                Good old Irish, you mean? Bram Stoker was Irish, and created Van Helsing long before movies were produced in Hollywood. :)

                                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                I'm not saying Hollywood invented anything, they've just helped to spread it worldwide. Vunic thought most Christians believed in vamps and werewolves because he saw it in a Hollywood film. :doh: I think the same could be said for a certain former vice-president's sensationalist doomsday movie, but alas, I'm dipping into soapbox material. ;)

                                Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                  Judah Himango wrote:

                                  Hollywood shaping our view of the world.

                                  For some people, Hollywood has been their mother, father, and god. It is a shame, but for some that is all they have ever known.

                                  Judah Himango wrote:

                                  holding a cross against something to kill it

                                  Some twisted lie, I would say that it comes out of Catholicisms. How you been Judah? I read this post then, I saw it look like you have a blog entry about. I'm headed over to read it.


                                  God Bless, Jason
                                  I am not perfect but I try to be better than those before me. So those who come after me will be better than I am.

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                                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                                  Hey Jason,   I'm doing well, thanks. You? I don't doubt that is some roots, probably from Roman Catholicism, that lend some kind of supernatural power to cross trinkets or jewelry. I suppose some folks still put supernatural value on those things, whether trinkets of crosses or saints. In any case, such things aren't Scriptural.

                                  Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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