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  • M martin_hughes

    My local council are planning on installing RFID chips in refuse bins in order that they can weigh and charge (extra - I pay my local taxes, dammit!) to remove my rubbish. Now I'm not a tolerant soul when it comes to Government interference in things, so do any of you good people know of a decent RFID killer?

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    And vote it down. I am tired of the overreaching of government. That said, try and reduce your waste. I have about one bag every two weeks.


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    • M Maximilien

      It's called an incentive to reduce the amount of trash people generate; You just have to reduce the amount of "real" trash you are generating by doing more recycling and maybe dump organic material in a compost bin. Normally, when a city wants to do something like that, they need to offer a free recycling and composting program to balance the reduction in trash. People who care will make the effort to do that and not pay extra; people who do not, they will pay the extra.


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      _Zorro_
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      I understand the point, but aren't you already paying for this service in the US? Or is it free, in that case I understand, but if you already pay for it, I'm not so ok. If they "missvaluated" their taxes, their problem, and it's their job to change them, but imo this is abusing of your privacy.

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        And vote it down. I am tired of the overreaching of government. That said, try and reduce your waste. I have about one bag every two weeks.


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        _Zorro_
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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        I have about one bag every two weeks.

        :omg: Where do you hide the others? Or maybe no kids, no wife, no cleaning and no eating, ahh, and most important.. no pets! ;P

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          It's called an incentive to reduce the amount of trash people generate; You just have to reduce the amount of "real" trash you are generating by doing more recycling and maybe dump organic material in a compost bin. Normally, when a city wants to do something like that, they need to offer a free recycling and composting program to balance the reduction in trash. People who care will make the effort to do that and not pay extra; people who do not, they will pay the extra.


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          Colin Angus Mackay
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          Maximilien wrote:

          Normally, when a city wants to do something like that, they need to offer a free recycling and composting program to balance the reduction in trash.

          It is happening all across the UK by the looks of it. It was political suicide until a few weeks ago, but the government has put in place some unrealistic targets on recycling and the councils don't have the facilities so they need to generate the money to pay the fines they wouldn't have had to pay if they'd just put the systems in place years ago when they first heard about it rather than wait until now. Why is is no longer political suicide? Because councils of all political colours are going down this route so it doesn't matter who you vote for, they are all doing pretty much the same thing.


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            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            I have about one bag every two weeks.

            :omg: Where do you hide the others? Or maybe no kids, no wife, no cleaning and no eating, ahh, and most important.. no pets! ;P

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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            I just don't buy a lot of stuff. Yes, I live by myself with my dog but I have found that the majority of trash comes from consumer purchases. If I don't buy anything then I have no trash!


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            • M martin_hughes

              My local council are planning on installing RFID chips in refuse bins in order that they can weigh and charge (extra - I pay my local taxes, dammit!) to remove my rubbish. Now I'm not a tolerant soul when it comes to Government interference in things, so do any of you good people know of a decent RFID killer?

              Me: Can you see the "up" arrow? User:Errr...ummm....no. Me: Can you see an arrow that points upwards? User: Oh yes, I see it now! -Excerpt from a support call taken by me, 08/31/2007

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              GuyThiebaut
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              Stick a neodymium magnet near where the tag is implanted. You can buy them on ebay. It should screw up anything relying on the electromagnetic spectrum within close distance :cool: Alternatively tie a bunch of helium filled balloons to the bin :-D

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              • J Jim Crafton

                I think Martin Hughes needs to get out more and leave Dame Fortune's sweet, perfumed bosom to the pages of Penthouse Forum! :) PS You wouldn't happen to have any shots of Dame Fortune would you? She sounds pretty hot!

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                martin_hughes
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                Jim Crafton wrote:

                PS You wouldn't happen to have any shots of Dame Fortune would you? She sounds pretty hot!

                Yup - I saved them from the Great Purge (aka Mrs Martin Hughes throws out all my cool stuff, including my boxed (boxed!) Millennium Falcon) :)

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                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                  And vote it down. I am tired of the overreaching of government. That said, try and reduce your waste. I have about one bag every two weeks.


                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                  Dan Neely
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                  how big of a bag?

                  -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                  • M martin_hughes

                    My local council are planning on installing RFID chips in refuse bins in order that they can weigh and charge (extra - I pay my local taxes, dammit!) to remove my rubbish. Now I'm not a tolerant soul when it comes to Government interference in things, so do any of you good people know of a decent RFID killer?

                    Me: Can you see the "up" arrow? User:Errr...ummm....no. Me: Can you see an arrow that points upwards? User: Oh yes, I see it now! -Excerpt from a support call taken by me, 08/31/2007

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                    Ray Cassick
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                    This junk always amazed me. How they feel that they can limit the amount of garbage you throw out. They try to do it here too. The garbage men whine if the cans are too heavy. Screw them. I can get them to the curb, they can lift them into the truck. I have been trying to trow out 3 wash baskets and one of those flip top plastic bins now for three weeks and every week they just leave them, apparently either because I am not putting them into the garbage bin or because they think I just want to sit them out by the curb for all to see or something. Idiots.. You know what? I don't want to spend my day lifting other peoples garbage either. That's why I did not become a garbage man!


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                    • M martin_hughes

                      Jim Crafton wrote:

                      PS You wouldn't happen to have any shots of Dame Fortune would you? She sounds pretty hot!

                      Yup - I saved them from the Great Purge (aka Mrs Martin Hughes throws out all my cool stuff, including my boxed (boxed!) Millennium Falcon) :)

                      Me: Can you see the "up" arrow? User:Errr...ummm....no. Me: Can you see an arrow that points upwards? User: Oh yes, I see it now! -Excerpt from a support call taken by me, 08/31/2007

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                      Jim Crafton
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                      Not the Falcon! Was it the model version? I built a couple of those - cool toys :)

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                      • J Jim Crafton

                        I think Martin Hughes needs to get out more and leave Dame Fortune's sweet, perfumed bosom to the pages of Penthouse Forum! :) PS You wouldn't happen to have any shots of Dame Fortune would you? She sounds pretty hot!

                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                        JudyL_MD
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                        :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: thanks, guys - I needed a good laugh this afternoon Judy (now :)ing)

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          Not the Falcon! Was it the model version? I built a couple of those - cool toys :)

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                          martin_hughes
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                          I did have the model at one point, but I can't recall what happened to it - but what the fiend threw out was my original 1979 First Issue Kenner Millennium Falcon (boxed!!!) Booooooo! I must get around to throwing some of her stuff out. I'll be right back :)

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                          • R Ray Cassick

                            This junk always amazed me. How they feel that they can limit the amount of garbage you throw out. They try to do it here too. The garbage men whine if the cans are too heavy. Screw them. I can get them to the curb, they can lift them into the truck. I have been trying to trow out 3 wash baskets and one of those flip top plastic bins now for three weeks and every week they just leave them, apparently either because I am not putting them into the garbage bin or because they think I just want to sit them out by the curb for all to see or something. Idiots.. You know what? I don't want to spend my day lifting other peoples garbage either. That's why I did not become a garbage man!


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                            Dan Neely
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                            NExt time try leaving them a hint. Tape a piece of paper that says 'trash' or 'please take' to the containers. I've never had a problem getting rid of them when I did that. Remember people don't go into garbage collection because of high intelligence.

                            -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                            • M martin_hughes

                              My local council are planning on installing RFID chips in refuse bins in order that they can weigh and charge (extra - I pay my local taxes, dammit!) to remove my rubbish. Now I'm not a tolerant soul when it comes to Government interference in things, so do any of you good people know of a decent RFID killer?

                              Me: Can you see the "up" arrow? User:Errr...ummm....no. Me: Can you see an arrow that points upwards? User: Oh yes, I see it now! -Excerpt from a support call taken by me, 08/31/2007

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                              cmk
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                              Another example of politicians failing to understand the principle of "path of least resistance". If you make people pay to dispose of their trash legally, they will avoid paying by disposing of it illegally. So now, instead of most garbage being disposed of properly/safely, people will start dumping in back alleys, wooded area's, wherever they can hide it.

                              ...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack

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                              • M martin_hughes

                                My local council are planning on installing RFID chips in refuse bins in order that they can weigh and charge (extra - I pay my local taxes, dammit!) to remove my rubbish. Now I'm not a tolerant soul when it comes to Government interference in things, so do any of you good people know of a decent RFID killer?

                                Me: Can you see the "up" arrow? User:Errr...ummm....no. Me: Can you see an arrow that points upwards? User: Oh yes, I see it now! -Excerpt from a support call taken by me, 08/31/2007

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                                realJSOP
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                                I suspect a rare earth magnet might do the job.

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  how big of a bag?

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                                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                  Standard large garbage bag.


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                                  • D Dan Neely

                                    NExt time try leaving them a hint. Tape a piece of paper that says 'trash' or 'please take' to the containers. I've never had a problem getting rid of them when I did that. Remember people don't go into garbage collection because of high intelligence.

                                    -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                                    Ray Cassick
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                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    Remember people don't go into garbage collection because of high intelligence.

                                    Yeah, I guess you are right there... I guess the fact that they are all busted up didn't give them a hint :)


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                                      Another example of politicians failing to understand the principle of "path of least resistance". If you make people pay to dispose of their trash legally, they will avoid paying by disposing of it illegally. So now, instead of most garbage being disposed of properly/safely, people will start dumping in back alleys, wooded area's, wherever they can hide it.

                                      ...cmk The idea that I can be presented with a problem, set out to logically solve it with the tools at hand, and wind up with a program that could not be legally used because someone else followed the same logical steps some years ago and filed for a patent on it is horrifying. - John Carmack

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                                      Ray Cassick
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                                      Yeah, they usually couple these dumb moves with laws that prevent you from burning trash also.


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                                      • R Ray Cassick

                                        This junk always amazed me. How they feel that they can limit the amount of garbage you throw out. They try to do it here too. The garbage men whine if the cans are too heavy. Screw them. I can get them to the curb, they can lift them into the truck. I have been trying to trow out 3 wash baskets and one of those flip top plastic bins now for three weeks and every week they just leave them, apparently either because I am not putting them into the garbage bin or because they think I just want to sit them out by the curb for all to see or something. Idiots.. You know what? I don't want to spend my day lifting other peoples garbage either. That's why I did not become a garbage man!


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                                        Big Daddy Farang
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                                        Ray Cassick wrote:

                                        one of those flip top plastic bins

                                        Well, you can't just put a garbage can in the garbage! Good heavens, what were you thinking? BDF

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                                        • M martin_hughes

                                          My local council are planning on installing RFID chips in refuse bins in order that they can weigh and charge (extra - I pay my local taxes, dammit!) to remove my rubbish. Now I'm not a tolerant soul when it comes to Government interference in things, so do any of you good people know of a decent RFID killer?

                                          Me: Can you see the "up" arrow? User:Errr...ummm....no. Me: Can you see an arrow that points upwards? User: Oh yes, I see it now! -Excerpt from a support call taken by me, 08/31/2007

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                                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                          sledgehammer?

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