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  • C ChandraRam

    Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it? :)

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    Christian Graus
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    It seems retarded to me, but the truth is, it's just the latest version of teen speak. Teens have always had their own language, and while some of the spellings and terminologies may creep into general usage, and over time even become acceptable English, the odds of the language changing entirely to be the same as txtspeak are basically zero. The odds of no txtspeak phrases making it into everyday use are also close to zero, the language does evolve, but it doesn't just turn into another language like that. It picks up bits from all sorts of sources.

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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    • C ChandraRam

      Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it? :)

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      DavidNohejl
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      Will? :confused: On wut planet u liv?


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        Will? :confused: On wut planet u liv?


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        ChandraRam
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        :-D

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        • C ChandraRam

          Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it? :)

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          Dalek Dave
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          I really hope not! txtspk is little above the clicks and grunts of our simian cousins, it deserves no respect. The English Language has taken thousands of years of construction, it should not be destroyed by some fat fingered lazy arsed couch potatoes texting each other because they can't be bothered to have a real conversation.:mad:

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          • C ChandraRam

            Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it? :)

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            ...prhps... :)

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.

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              I really hope not! txtspk is little above the clicks and grunts of our simian cousins, it deserves no respect. The English Language has taken thousands of years of construction, it should not be destroyed by some fat fingered lazy arsed couch potatoes texting each other because they can't be bothered to have a real conversation.:mad:

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              Paul Watson
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              Dalek Dave wrote:

              The English Language has taken thousands of years of construction

              Thousands of years? I don't think it is that old. Old English came first and even that isn't thousands of years old. Pedant, out.

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              • C ChandraRam

                Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it? :)

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                Colin Angus Mackay
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                ChandraRam wrote:

                Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it?

                I hope not. It is a crude mechanism used by the lazy. I don't use txtspk even when texting.


                Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  The English Language has taken thousands of years of construction

                  Thousands of years? I don't think it is that old. Old English came first and even that isn't thousands of years old. Pedant, out.

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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  Thousands of years? I don't think it is that old. Old English came first and even that isn't thousands of years old.

                  Languages have been evolving all the time. English HAS taken thousands of years of costruction just has humans have taken millions or billions of years of construction. It is just that at a certain point in the past it didn't exist yet. At a certain point in the past humans didn't exist either, but we evolved from things that did. English is also a grand amalgam of many languages including Latin, Greek, German, Dutch, Norse, Gaelic, French, and many others. Each of these languages has its own evolutionary path also. So, I would say that the English language as it exists is the product of thousands of years of linguistic evolution.


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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    Thousands of years? I don't think it is that old. Old English came first and even that isn't thousands of years old.

                    Languages have been evolving all the time. English HAS taken thousands of years of costruction just has humans have taken millions or billions of years of construction. It is just that at a certain point in the past it didn't exist yet. At a certain point in the past humans didn't exist either, but we evolved from things that did. English is also a grand amalgam of many languages including Latin, Greek, German, Dutch, Norse, Gaelic, French, and many others. Each of these languages has its own evolutionary path also. So, I would say that the English language as it exists is the product of thousands of years of linguistic evolution.


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                    Dalek Dave
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                    Thank you Colin, for making the point I was about to make.:-D

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                    • C Colin Angus Mackay

                      ChandraRam wrote:

                      Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it?

                      I hope not. It is a crude mechanism used by the lazy. I don't use txtspk even when texting.


                      Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                      I don't use txtspk even when texting

                      But you do use it when defining TXTSPK (Actually in capitals it looks like a unix command!)

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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        Thousands of years? I don't think it is that old. Old English came first and even that isn't thousands of years old.

                        Languages have been evolving all the time. English HAS taken thousands of years of costruction just has humans have taken millions or billions of years of construction. It is just that at a certain point in the past it didn't exist yet. At a certain point in the past humans didn't exist either, but we evolved from things that did. English is also a grand amalgam of many languages including Latin, Greek, German, Dutch, Norse, Gaelic, French, and many others. Each of these languages has its own evolutionary path also. So, I would say that the English language as it exists is the product of thousands of years of linguistic evolution.


                        Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                        Paul Watson
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                        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                        Languages have been evolving all the time. English HAS taken thousands of years of construction just has humans have taken millions or billions of years of construction. It is just that at a certain point in the past it didn't exist yet. At a certain point in the past humans didn't exist either, but we evolved from things that did.

                        Homo sapiens came into existence at a certain period. Before that it wasn't homo spaiens, it was something else. The "something else" contributed to homo sapiens but it wasn't homo sapiens. Same for English. It came into existence at a certain period and before that it didn't exist. We can't carpet bomb every language that contributed to English and call them English. English is on the cusp of a thousand years old. Not thousands of years. If people want to be dramatic and say "Thousands of years old!" then it needs to be thousands of years old, not one thousand and one years old. I just don't want people thinking English is some ancient language like Aramaic. People needn't be ignorant and arrogant about their language.

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                        • C Colin Angus Mackay

                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          Thousands of years? I don't think it is that old. Old English came first and even that isn't thousands of years old.

                          Languages have been evolving all the time. English HAS taken thousands of years of costruction just has humans have taken millions or billions of years of construction. It is just that at a certain point in the past it didn't exist yet. At a certain point in the past humans didn't exist either, but we evolved from things that did. English is also a grand amalgam of many languages including Latin, Greek, German, Dutch, Norse, Gaelic, French, and many others. Each of these languages has its own evolutionary path also. So, I would say that the English language as it exists is the product of thousands of years of linguistic evolution.


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                          Brady Kelly
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                          Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                          English is also a grand amalgam of many languages including Latin, Greek, German, Dutch, Norse, Gaelic, French, and many others. Each of these languages has its own evolutionary path also.

                          And didn't the speakers of those languages cringe when they heard the pro-English proto-English so abusing their pure and lovely languages?


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                            Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                            I don't use txtspk even when texting

                            But you do use it when defining TXTSPK (Actually in capitals it looks like a unix command!)

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                            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            Actually in capitals it looks like a unix command!

                            Really? :~ Unix commands are lower case...

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                              ChandraRam wrote:

                              Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it?

                              I hope not. It is a crude mechanism used by the lazy. I don't use txtspk even when texting.


                              Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              No, it's actually much easier to let my phone's predictive text fill in the proper words.

                              I do not believe they are right who say that the defects of famous men should be ignored. I think it is better that we should know them. Then, though we are conscious of having faults as glaring as theirs, we can believe that that is no hindrance to our achieving also something of their virtues. - W. Somerset Maugham My New Blog

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                              • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                ChandraRam wrote:

                                Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it?

                                I hope not. It is a crude mechanism used by the lazy. I don't use txtspk even when texting.


                                Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                                Ralph Unden
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                                Is it really used by the lazy? I figured it was to shorten the language by shaving off some characters to fit more information into a short message.

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                                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                                  Actually in capitals it looks like a unix command!

                                  Really? :~ Unix commands are lower case...

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                                  Dalek Dave
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                                  You are of course quite right, my brain must have been on screen saver mode. Tell me what I mean? :)

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                                  • C ChandraRam

                                    Just as the language has changed from Shakesperean times to now, do you think txtspk will eventually replace English as we know it? :)

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                                    VonHagNDaz
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                                    i make it my duty to punch everyone i hear saying lol, wtf, or g2g. i seriously want these people dead. we invented the cell phone for a reason, and it sure as hell wasnt so we could revert back to instant messaging...

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                                      You are of course quite right, my brain must have been on screen saver mode. Tell me what I mean? :)

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                                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                      Well, I'm not a mind reader, but I think you meant environment variables. They are most often capitalized (like they are in Windows in fact). export VARIABLE=value or setenv VARIABLE value depending a little on your shell flavor...

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                                      • B Brady Kelly

                                        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                        English is also a grand amalgam of many languages including Latin, Greek, German, Dutch, Norse, Gaelic, French, and many others. Each of these languages has its own evolutionary path also.

                                        And didn't the speakers of those languages cringe when they heard the pro-English proto-English so abusing their pure and lovely languages?


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                                        I do not believe they are right who say that the defects of famous men should be ignored. I think it is better that we should know them. Then, though we are conscious of having faults as glaring as theirs, we can believe that that is no hindrance to our achieving also something of their virtues. - W. Somerset Maugham My New Blog

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                                        Dalek Dave
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                                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                                        And didn't the speakers of those languages cringe when they heard the pro-English so abusing their pure and lovely languages?

                                        Por English and Proto English:-D

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                                        • P Paul Watson

                                          Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                          Languages have been evolving all the time. English HAS taken thousands of years of construction just has humans have taken millions or billions of years of construction. It is just that at a certain point in the past it didn't exist yet. At a certain point in the past humans didn't exist either, but we evolved from things that did.

                                          Homo sapiens came into existence at a certain period. Before that it wasn't homo spaiens, it was something else. The "something else" contributed to homo sapiens but it wasn't homo sapiens. Same for English. It came into existence at a certain period and before that it didn't exist. We can't carpet bomb every language that contributed to English and call them English. English is on the cusp of a thousand years old. Not thousands of years. If people want to be dramatic and say "Thousands of years old!" then it needs to be thousands of years old, not one thousand and one years old. I just don't want people thinking English is some ancient language like Aramaic. People needn't be ignorant and arrogant about their language.

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                                          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                                          stevepqr
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                                          Pedants Society member are we? (at this point you say "actually no its the Pedants Association") I think the guy was just trying to get across that its an old language rather than be historically accurate to the nearest fortnight. I could be wrong though :|

                                          Apathy Rules - I suppose...

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