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  • D David Crow

    Paul Watson wrote:

    Never seen anyone write it as 17 in this context before

    Yeah, that threw me at first, too. Had he written it correctly as 0900-1700, it would have been obvious. Yes, all of my clocks are set to 24-hour mode.


    "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

    "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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    Paul Watson
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    DavidCrow wrote:

    Yes, all of my clocks are set to 24-hour mode.

    :confused: What other logical way is there?

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Andy Brummer wrote:

    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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    • D Dalek Dave

      In at 9.00 am, Out at 5.30pm, one hour for lunch monday to friday, 28 Paid days off a year plus first three sick days. I live 500 yards from where I work so home for lunch. Life is good!

      ------------------------------------ Happy Primes Lead to Happy Memories. Don't Google FGI

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      NormDroid
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      Dalek Dave wrote:

      In at 9.00 am, Out at 5.30pm, one hour for lunch monday to friday, 28 Paid days off a year plus first three sick days. I live 500 yards from where I work so home for lunch. Life is good!

      No life is paradise ;) Seriously being able to fire off home for lunch is a real bonus and a bonus I certainly wouldn't like to lose.

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      • P Paul Watson

        DavidCrow wrote:

        Yes, all of my clocks are set to 24-hour mode.

        :confused: What other logical way is there?

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

        Andy Brummer wrote:

        Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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        David Crow
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        Paul Watson wrote:

        What other logical way is there?

        Some folks insist on displaying time in 12-hour mode with an AM/PM designation.


        "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

        "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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        • D David Crow

          Paul Watson wrote:

          What other logical way is there?

          Some folks insist on displaying time in 12-hour mode with an AM/PM designation.


          "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

          "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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          Paul Watson
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          Yeah, but we don't listen to nutters like that.

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Andy Brummer wrote:

          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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          • M Mircea Grelus

            So I take it you'd rather have somebody else than yourself. That doesn't browse CP during working hours. ;) Seriously now, you can put in 20 hours of productive work, but you probably couldn't do it every day for long periods, and not do it 100% productive, but it still could equal about 16 hours of highly productive time. I know that there are these types of people you mentioned but there are exceptions as well. :)

            Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Mircea Grelus wrote:

            So I take it you'd rather have somebody else than yourself. That doesn't browse CP during working hours.

            Indeed, but I am the boss and I do tend to take a lot of work home with me. Office hours tends to be when I get the paperwork done. Seriously, I don't mind people browsing web sites as long as they are productive as well. You can't concentrate for 8 hours a day - you do need a break.

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            • P Pawel Krakowiak

              Geez. I often am wondering whether I am "a true developer" because I don't like to spend my whole time sitting in front of computer developing software. I like to read a book, talk with somebody, go out, play computer and console games, surf the Internet. When I am not pressed I tend to have a 9-17 (9-18, really) attitude. I was wondering whether it was something wrong with me that I don't like to sit 16hrs coding. And yes, I LIKE my job, I love software development. There are just some other interesting things in the world which don't mean work. Reading what people write nowadays, that 9-17 people are a relict of the past I get upset - it seems like work=life, where are the other activities? Don't they have a hobby? I am perfectly fine to work long hours, but there must be a reason.

              Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak

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              Shog9 0
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              Pawel Krakowiak wrote:

              Don't they have a hobby?

              Sure. Reading and writing code. For close to half of my life, i've been spending the bulk of my waking hours (as well as a good number of hours i should probably be sleeping) engaged in those hobbies. This "work" thing is just an opportunity for people to annoy me with boring stuff like emails, meetings, and status reports. And trust me, i cut that stuff off well before 1700...

              every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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              • P Paul Watson

                Yeah, but we don't listen to nutters like that.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                Andy Brummer wrote:

                Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                Draugnar
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                I prefer my binary clock in 2400 mode. :cool:

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                • _ __yash__

                  I m thinking of taking sudoku printouts to play when travelling back home!! ;P

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                  Draugnar
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                  Sudoku is for wimps. ;P Try Kakuro. every evening before I go to bed I either solve a Kakuro puzzle from the Mensa Kakuro book, or read a couple chapters from one of the many books I'm always reading (currently Ender's Shadow and Dune: House Harkonnen). I wish I traveled via public transit so I could read or something on the way home, but Cincinnati's and Northern Kentucky's bus system is only convenient for people who live in the most urban (and run down) areas.

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    Mircea Grelus wrote:

                    So I take it you'd rather have somebody else than yourself. That doesn't browse CP during working hours.

                    Indeed, but I am the boss and I do tend to take a lot of work home with me. Office hours tends to be when I get the paperwork done. Seriously, I don't mind people browsing web sites as long as they are productive as well. You can't concentrate for 8 hours a day - you do need a break.

                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                    Mircea Grelus
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                    Totally agree with you.

                    Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                    • D Draugnar

                      I prefer my binary clock in 2400 mode. :cool:

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Draugnar wrote:

                      I prefer my binary clock in 2400 mode.

                      when did '2' or '4' become binary digits? :confused:

                      -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                      • D Dan Neely

                        Draugnar wrote:

                        I prefer my binary clock in 2400 mode.

                        when did '2' or '4' become binary digits? :confused:

                        -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                        Draugnar
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                        OK, how about: 0100 1000 0000 or 0010 0100 0000 0000 :laugh:

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          I think there is a difference between people who say "9 to 5 bub and not a second more." That is what annoys me, people who literally stand-up at 5pm in the middle of a line of code and just walk out.

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                          Pawel Krakowiak
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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          That is what annoys me, people who literally stand-up at 5pm in the middle of a line of code and just walk out.

                          This isn't me. :) But if I know I accomplished something and we don't have to ship yesterday I will end at 5PM by all means.

                          Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak

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                          • N NormDroid

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            In at 9.00 am, Out at 5.30pm, one hour for lunch monday to friday, 28 Paid days off a year plus first three sick days. I live 500 yards from where I work so home for lunch. Life is good!

                            No life is paradise ;) Seriously being able to fire off home for lunch is a real bonus and a bonus I certainly wouldn't like to lose.

                            WPF - Imagineers Wanted Follow your nose using DoubleAnimationUsingPath

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                            Pawel Krakowiak
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                            norm .net wrote:

                            Seriously being able to fire off home for lunch is a real bonus and a bonus I certainly wouldn't like to lose.

                            Yeah, I have this, too. :) Home lunch is the best lunch you can have.

                            Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak

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                              9-17 is?

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                              Pawel Krakowiak
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                              Trollslayer wrote:

                              9-17 is?

                              9AM to 5PM, not 17th of September. :P

                              Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak

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                              • P Ponytail Bob

                                When I enjoy my work, I tend to work longer hours, but I am a contractor, and bill for those hours. While I understand that the United States leads the world in productivity, I think this is because employees let companies take advantage of them. I have been told by perm people that they dont have enough time to do their work, so they work longer hours. WAIT! WHO gave them that work, and why do they have so much? There is a saying that I am very fond of: Lack of planning on your part does NOT constitute an emergency on mine. I learned a long time ago that if I work a full day (7:00 -> 16:00) then go home and relax, and do that again the next day, I still get my work done. The difference is that I dont take on as much, and push off what I dont have time to do. I dont live to work... I work to live. peace BobP

                                http://bobp1339.blogspot.com/

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                                Pawel Krakowiak
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                                BobP - BIM wrote:

                                I dont live to work... I work to live.

                                Exactly! I might as well use it as my signature. ;) I am also a contractor currently and your opinion on correct planning is very accurate. I usually work 9 hours, but I know I probably won't do more than 7hrs of real work (billable) and so I always plan like I was working 6hrs a day. Even though my week is 45hrs long, I know that most likely I will have only 30hrs of high productivity time and I take that into account when estimating tasks.

                                Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak

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                                • D Draugnar

                                  Sudoku is for wimps. ;P Try Kakuro. every evening before I go to bed I either solve a Kakuro puzzle from the Mensa Kakuro book, or read a couple chapters from one of the many books I'm always reading (currently Ender's Shadow and Dune: House Harkonnen). I wish I traveled via public transit so I could read or something on the way home, but Cincinnati's and Northern Kentucky's bus system is only convenient for people who live in the most urban (and run down) areas.

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                                  __yash__
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                                  Sudoku is for wimps ya right, and they even hold 'World Competitions' with a huge 'prize'-tag ;P I wish I traveled via public transit How exactly opposite of what i think...after the kind of travelling i do how i wish i never lived only X| .... if you like reading thrillers then try any of Robert Ludlum's especially The Bourne Identity, The Holcroft Covenant...

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                                    Sudoku is for wimps ya right, and they even hold 'World Competitions' with a huge 'prize'-tag ;P I wish I traveled via public transit How exactly opposite of what i think...after the kind of travelling i do how i wish i never lived only X| .... if you like reading thrillers then try any of Robert Ludlum's especially The Bourne Identity, The Holcroft Covenant...

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                                    Draugnar
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                                    yashveer wrote:

                                    ya right, and they even hold 'World Competitions' with a huge 'prize'-tag

                                    Well, then maybe I should try one of the competitions because the toughest 9x9 Sudoku I've ever solved was done in under 1 hour with minimal notations. the typical newspaper ones take less than 15 minutes, are done in pen without notations. 9x9 (the standard) Sudoku is just plain easy. If you want a challenge, get one of the Mensa Kakuro books. Normal Kakuro (about the size of a NY times crossword puzzle) is also pretty easy, but the Mensa puzzles are about 2.5 times the size and can be much more challening.

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