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  • B BoneSoft

    For years now, CodeProject has been my #1 goto site for all things technical. Hell, most of the time you Google something programming related there's a CP article in the top ten anyway. I watch the C# board when I'm bored and help out where I can. I've written articles, and read TONS of them. CP is the only newsletter I'll read. Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards? They don't seem to post in other boards all that much. I realize it's the SoapBox, but my God, don't you have to have at least 2 or 3 brain cells that rub up against each other on occasion to even know that CP exists? I guess we're at a point where more and more 'programmers' are gonna be snot nosed little brats that little more than 2 years ago were still having Halloween parties in home room. If I were in good with the powers that be at CP, I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened. But I guess the damage is probably already done. The rats would probably not fall too far from the ship and infect the respectable boards as well. Maybe the SoapBox is the dirty little secret they are now stuck with. Granted there are only a small number of head wounds creeping around here, but the one's we have make a LOT of noise.


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    Demon Possessed
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    Great Job! Making threads about trolls always helps the problem go away!

    "It's apparently your goal in life (so to speak) to be DemonChow." - Ilion

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    • B BoneSoft

      For years now, CodeProject has been my #1 goto site for all things technical. Hell, most of the time you Google something programming related there's a CP article in the top ten anyway. I watch the C# board when I'm bored and help out where I can. I've written articles, and read TONS of them. CP is the only newsletter I'll read. Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards? They don't seem to post in other boards all that much. I realize it's the SoapBox, but my God, don't you have to have at least 2 or 3 brain cells that rub up against each other on occasion to even know that CP exists? I guess we're at a point where more and more 'programmers' are gonna be snot nosed little brats that little more than 2 years ago were still having Halloween parties in home room. If I were in good with the powers that be at CP, I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened. But I guess the damage is probably already done. The rats would probably not fall too far from the ship and infect the respectable boards as well. Maybe the SoapBox is the dirty little secret they are now stuck with. Granted there are only a small number of head wounds creeping around here, but the one's we have make a LOT of noise.


      Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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      AmazingHoeFaSho
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      fuck my ass baby

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      • D Demon Possessed

        Great Job! Making threads about trolls always helps the problem go away!

        "It's apparently your goal in life (so to speak) to be DemonChow." - Ilion

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        BoneSoft
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        As usual, I wasn't looking for input from trolls.


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        • B BoneSoft

          For years now, CodeProject has been my #1 goto site for all things technical. Hell, most of the time you Google something programming related there's a CP article in the top ten anyway. I watch the C# board when I'm bored and help out where I can. I've written articles, and read TONS of them. CP is the only newsletter I'll read. Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards? They don't seem to post in other boards all that much. I realize it's the SoapBox, but my God, don't you have to have at least 2 or 3 brain cells that rub up against each other on occasion to even know that CP exists? I guess we're at a point where more and more 'programmers' are gonna be snot nosed little brats that little more than 2 years ago were still having Halloween parties in home room. If I were in good with the powers that be at CP, I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened. But I guess the damage is probably already done. The rats would probably not fall too far from the ship and infect the respectable boards as well. Maybe the SoapBox is the dirty little secret they are now stuck with. Granted there are only a small number of head wounds creeping around here, but the one's we have make a LOT of noise.


          Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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          Tim Craig
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          BoneSoft wrote:

          Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards?

          Tell us, how did it attract you? :rolleyes:

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          • B BoneSoft

            For years now, CodeProject has been my #1 goto site for all things technical. Hell, most of the time you Google something programming related there's a CP article in the top ten anyway. I watch the C# board when I'm bored and help out where I can. I've written articles, and read TONS of them. CP is the only newsletter I'll read. Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards? They don't seem to post in other boards all that much. I realize it's the SoapBox, but my God, don't you have to have at least 2 or 3 brain cells that rub up against each other on occasion to even know that CP exists? I guess we're at a point where more and more 'programmers' are gonna be snot nosed little brats that little more than 2 years ago were still having Halloween parties in home room. If I were in good with the powers that be at CP, I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened. But I guess the damage is probably already done. The rats would probably not fall too far from the ship and infect the respectable boards as well. Maybe the SoapBox is the dirty little secret they are now stuck with. Granted there are only a small number of head wounds creeping around here, but the one's we have make a LOT of noise.


            Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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            Lost User
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            It’s been going down hill for the last couple of years, ever since Kyle came along really, but the decent seems to be accelerating lately. Its been months since there has been anything here of any real interest to me. I wonder how much it costs CP to host a forum thats basically become dedicated to two children calling each other names?

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            • B BoneSoft

              For years now, CodeProject has been my #1 goto site for all things technical. Hell, most of the time you Google something programming related there's a CP article in the top ten anyway. I watch the C# board when I'm bored and help out where I can. I've written articles, and read TONS of them. CP is the only newsletter I'll read. Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards? They don't seem to post in other boards all that much. I realize it's the SoapBox, but my God, don't you have to have at least 2 or 3 brain cells that rub up against each other on occasion to even know that CP exists? I guess we're at a point where more and more 'programmers' are gonna be snot nosed little brats that little more than 2 years ago were still having Halloween parties in home room. If I were in good with the powers that be at CP, I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened. But I guess the damage is probably already done. The rats would probably not fall too far from the ship and infect the respectable boards as well. Maybe the SoapBox is the dirty little secret they are now stuck with. Granted there are only a small number of head wounds creeping around here, but the one's we have make a LOT of noise.


              Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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              Llasus
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              Post this in the suggestions and maybe they will hear you out. Really a shame for Code Project to have those kind of threads below. I don't think they understand the rules though: "Rules: Do not post anything illegal, offensive, abusive or that constitutes harassment. No flame wars, spamming, trolling, message bombing or harassment."

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              • L Llasus

                Post this in the suggestions and maybe they will hear you out. Really a shame for Code Project to have those kind of threads below. I don't think they understand the rules though: "Rules: Do not post anything illegal, offensive, abusive or that constitutes harassment. No flame wars, spamming, trolling, message bombing or harassment."

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                bryce
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                Clearly rules are only as effective as those policing them. bryce

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                • D Demon Possessed

                  Great Job! Making threads about trolls always helps the problem go away!

                  "It's apparently your goal in life (so to speak) to be DemonChow." - Ilion

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                  soap brain
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                  How much time, as an estimate, would you spend provoking Josh per week? I know that the idea of asserting yourself on someone you see as being weaker is very seductive. It's what drives sadists to, say, torture small, cute animals. They love to see the blood, to know that the animal is silently screaming and screaming and screaming. We all know that Josh will never stop bleeding when you strike him, and you know this too. It brings a smile to your face as you clench your teeth and drive the crudely sharpened stick further, deeper, the glassy, fading eyes of your quarry rolling madly before finally fixing on you, and knowing with an absolute certainty that it's going to die, and that there's absolutely nothing it can do to stop it. Is it as fun as it used to be? By the way, I know how you want to ignore me. You apparently don't want to encourage me. I know, though, that you just don't want to face the fact that you got outdone by a snot-nosed kid. :laugh: -- modified at 4:22 Wednesday 7th November, 2007

                  It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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                  • B BoneSoft

                    For years now, CodeProject has been my #1 goto site for all things technical. Hell, most of the time you Google something programming related there's a CP article in the top ten anyway. I watch the C# board when I'm bored and help out where I can. I've written articles, and read TONS of them. CP is the only newsletter I'll read. Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards? They don't seem to post in other boards all that much. I realize it's the SoapBox, but my God, don't you have to have at least 2 or 3 brain cells that rub up against each other on occasion to even know that CP exists? I guess we're at a point where more and more 'programmers' are gonna be snot nosed little brats that little more than 2 years ago were still having Halloween parties in home room. If I were in good with the powers that be at CP, I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened. But I guess the damage is probably already done. The rats would probably not fall too far from the ship and infect the respectable boards as well. Maybe the SoapBox is the dirty little secret they are now stuck with. Granted there are only a small number of head wounds creeping around here, but the one's we have make a LOT of noise.


                    Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                    Bulky Fellow
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                    I too have similar opinions. I often share my thoughts and views with the great community here, and more often than not I get a helping of good, humor filled replies. But, there have been times when trolls have indeed gotten into the post to harass people. And unlike many other problems which is difficult to tackle, this is one of the easiest. One word: Ignore. That simple action slaughters trolling. If trolling in the soapbox is out of control, it's because we have conversed with the trolls time and again allowing them to grow. With that said, I think I've just violated the "Ignore" policy, since there is a troll in this chain. Ok, so I'm off.

                    ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.

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                    • B BoneSoft

                      For years now, CodeProject has been my #1 goto site for all things technical. Hell, most of the time you Google something programming related there's a CP article in the top ten anyway. I watch the C# board when I'm bored and help out where I can. I've written articles, and read TONS of them. CP is the only newsletter I'll read. Until recently, I hardly even looked at the SoapBox. How in the name of all that is holy, does the SoapBox manage to attract trolls and retards? They don't seem to post in other boards all that much. I realize it's the SoapBox, but my God, don't you have to have at least 2 or 3 brain cells that rub up against each other on occasion to even know that CP exists? I guess we're at a point where more and more 'programmers' are gonna be snot nosed little brats that little more than 2 years ago were still having Halloween parties in home room. If I were in good with the powers that be at CP, I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened. But I guess the damage is probably already done. The rats would probably not fall too far from the ship and infect the respectable boards as well. Maybe the SoapBox is the dirty little secret they are now stuck with. Granted there are only a small number of head wounds creeping around here, but the one's we have make a LOT of noise.


                      Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                      d king
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                      BoneSoft wrote:

                      I'd be tempted to suggest spaying this board with napalm and forgetting this little experiment ever happened

                      It has been discussed a number of times, but overwhelmingly voted against on the 'if you dont llike it dont come here' basis. I have to say I enjoy the free and often lively debate with people from all over the world that one encounters on the SB. Occasionally you come across a real eye opener. It can also be very funny sometimes, a well constructed piss take for example. But it is a shame that one or two people (Kyle was bad enough but he was at least clever, and very good a spoofing accounts) are just degrading the place beyond reason, which is a shame.

                      God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference

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                      • B Bulky Fellow

                        I too have similar opinions. I often share my thoughts and views with the great community here, and more often than not I get a helping of good, humor filled replies. But, there have been times when trolls have indeed gotten into the post to harass people. And unlike many other problems which is difficult to tackle, this is one of the easiest. One word: Ignore. That simple action slaughters trolling. If trolling in the soapbox is out of control, it's because we have conversed with the trolls time and again allowing them to grow. With that said, I think I've just violated the "Ignore" policy, since there is a troll in this chain. Ok, so I'm off.

                        ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.

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                        Brady Kelly
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                        Bulky Fellow wrote:

                        One word: Ignore.

                        When I was young, one of the most frequently given pieces of advice from my mother was to ignore people, and they would go away. I had a problem with this, because we cannot simply shut off our senses, and even as I matured, I had difficulty attenuating the impactf annoying people on my thought process. Only much later did I conclude that it isn't necessary to exclude somebody from your thoughts, only to deny them any reaction. You can be seething inside, but your lack of reaction and response, your extrinsic, and not intrinsic, ignoring of the attention seeker is what, quite often literally, makes them disappear.

                        MY BLOG

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                        • B Brady Kelly

                          Bulky Fellow wrote:

                          One word: Ignore.

                          When I was young, one of the most frequently given pieces of advice from my mother was to ignore people, and they would go away. I had a problem with this, because we cannot simply shut off our senses, and even as I matured, I had difficulty attenuating the impactf annoying people on my thought process. Only much later did I conclude that it isn't necessary to exclude somebody from your thoughts, only to deny them any reaction. You can be seething inside, but your lack of reaction and response, your extrinsic, and not intrinsic, ignoring of the attention seeker is what, quite often literally, makes them disappear.

                          MY BLOG

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                          5!


                          Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->ßRÅhmmÃ<-·´¯`·.

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                          • B Brady Kelly

                            Bulky Fellow wrote:

                            One word: Ignore.

                            When I was young, one of the most frequently given pieces of advice from my mother was to ignore people, and they would go away. I had a problem with this, because we cannot simply shut off our senses, and even as I matured, I had difficulty attenuating the impactf annoying people on my thought process. Only much later did I conclude that it isn't necessary to exclude somebody from your thoughts, only to deny them any reaction. You can be seething inside, but your lack of reaction and response, your extrinsic, and not intrinsic, ignoring of the attention seeker is what, quite often literally, makes them disappear.

                            MY BLOG

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                            soap brain
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                            Brady Kelly wrote:

                            ignoring of the attention seeker is what, quite often literally, makes them disappear.

                            You mean, like, vaporize?

                            It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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                              Brady Kelly wrote:

                              ignoring of the attention seeker is what, quite often literally, makes them disappear.

                              You mean, like, vaporize?

                              It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              Only simulacra actually disappear as in vaporise. Real people just skulk off in a cloud of dejection.

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                              • B Brady Kelly

                                Only simulacra actually disappear as in vaporise. Real people just skulk off in a cloud of dejection.

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                                soap brain
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                                I don't think it works as often as you'd hope, especially not in a public forum, where anybody can reply, and they do.

                                It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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                                  I don't think it works as often as you'd hope, especially not in a public forum, where anybody can reply, and they do.

                                  It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  Yes, it's like garbage collection. It will only go away some time after the last reference to it is removed.

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                                  • B Brady Kelly

                                    Bulky Fellow wrote:

                                    One word: Ignore.

                                    When I was young, one of the most frequently given pieces of advice from my mother was to ignore people, and they would go away. I had a problem with this, because we cannot simply shut off our senses, and even as I matured, I had difficulty attenuating the impactf annoying people on my thought process. Only much later did I conclude that it isn't necessary to exclude somebody from your thoughts, only to deny them any reaction. You can be seething inside, but your lack of reaction and response, your extrinsic, and not intrinsic, ignoring of the attention seeker is what, quite often literally, makes them disappear.

                                    MY BLOG

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                                    Tim Craig
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                                    Brady Kelly wrote:

                                    the most frequently given pieces of advice from my mother was to ignore people, and they would go away.

                                    My mother gave me that advice except it was with regard to bullies. They didn't go away. Eventually, I wised up and beat the crap out of a few of them and then I was left alone.

                                    Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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                                    • B Brady Kelly

                                      Yes, it's like garbage collection. It will only go away some time after the last reference to it is removed.

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                                      soap brain
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                                      I guess the problem is that face-to-face is very different to public. Sure, if you personally don't react to someone's abusive posts, someone else will, encouraging them, undermining all your good work. If somebody's picking on you face-to-face, you CAN ignore them, and they hopefully WILL go away (although not a guarantee - depends on whether they want a reaction or are simply content with knowing how hurt you are inside). I guess, though, that in public it depends on whether you want the stupid-heads to stop or to just not get involved. Not getting involved IS easy - just ignore them. Getting them to stop? Slightly more problematic...

                                      It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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                                        I guess the problem is that face-to-face is very different to public. Sure, if you personally don't react to someone's abusive posts, someone else will, encouraging them, undermining all your good work. If somebody's picking on you face-to-face, you CAN ignore them, and they hopefully WILL go away (although not a guarantee - depends on whether they want a reaction or are simply content with knowing how hurt you are inside). I guess, though, that in public it depends on whether you want the stupid-heads to stop or to just not get involved. Not getting involved IS easy - just ignore them. Getting them to stop? Slightly more problematic...

                                        It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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                                        Brady Kelly
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                                        Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                        Getting them to stop? Slightly more problematic...

                                        Without feedback they cannot continue. They will at first construct feedback if you provide none, but their constructed and projected feedback is overloaded with entropy, and will cycle down into shame.

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

                                          Getting them to stop? Slightly more problematic...

                                          Without feedback they cannot continue. They will at first construct feedback if you provide none, but their constructed and projected feedback is overloaded with entropy, and will cycle down into shame.

                                          MY BLOG

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                                          soap brain
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                                          Brady Kelly wrote:

                                          Without feedback they cannot continue.

                                          Of course, but that's the problem. If you have a hundred people all equally as capable of responding, of course someone will.

                                          It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!

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