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  • N Nish Nishant

    Christian Graus wrote:

    If you didn't ask, how did you know how much to pay ? You already know that the labour was $600, right ?

    Probably signed the credit card slip without looking at the actual amount or perhaps by mentally blurring it out. Oh you know, the same way women shop!

    Regards, Nish


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    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    Probably signed the credit card slip without looking at the actual amount or perhaps by mentally blurring it out. Oh you know, the same way women shop

    LOL! yeah that describes my Wife.:)

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    • T Thunderbox666

      Just wanted to rant about how annoying cars are. I just picked mine up from the mechanic, and there is over $600 just in labour... so parts on top of that... i was too scared to ask Whats your horror stories with cars?

      "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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      It is kind of festive season here with Diwali the crowning festival. All the car and two-wheeler shops throw open offers like 'No charge Inspection' of your vehicles. But only after inspection, you would be guaranteed of 'Wallet-Blast Syndrome'. You would get an unnecessary spare part replacement and all those things. Even if you excuse and come, the good-running vehicle would automatically develop technical snags in a couple of days, the secret of which being, during inspection itself, some of the healthy parts would have got surreptiously removed/replaced by those cunning mechanics. :mad:

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        Thunderbox666 wrote:

        My last car was a lemon.. $4500 to keep it on the road for 1 year

        For peace of mind, unless you are a car expert, always buy a new car.

        Regards, Nish


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        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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        You are absolutely true, at least in India. Here, the mechanics are fool-proof cheaters that you never can escape the death-traps and landmines laid by them.

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          Just wanted to rant about how annoying cars are. I just picked mine up from the mechanic, and there is over $600 just in labour... so parts on top of that... i was too scared to ask Whats your horror stories with cars?

          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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          In our country (UK), repairs tend to be cheaper for non Japanese and Germany cars, a back street garage can be 60-70% cheaper than that of a dealership. I'd always buy a car that was 1 year old, and go for the reliabilty angle; Honda, Toyota are the best cars to buy, but they generally have the most expensive parts. A Opel/Vauxhall is cheaper to buy, the parts are cheap but the car is a whole lot less unreliable.

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            In our country (UK), repairs tend to be cheaper for non Japanese and Germany cars, a back street garage can be 60-70% cheaper than that of a dealership. I'd always buy a car that was 1 year old, and go for the reliabilty angle; Honda, Toyota are the best cars to buy, but they generally have the most expensive parts. A Opel/Vauxhall is cheaper to buy, the parts are cheap but the car is a whole lot less unreliable.

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            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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            norm .net wrote:

            a back street garage can be 60-70% cheaper than that of a dealership

            In our country (India) too, consulting with your local neighborhood garage is safer and reliable than visiting your dealer since the latter would be more inclined in (*) Selling more rubbish spare parts to you (*) Initiating a Data Transfer from your wallet to his. ;) At least in Chennai, I have good samples to showcase the nonchalant attitude of big stores. Shops like Landmark have started to become ShameMark. :mad: The after-sales service of the products is really pathetic and you just encounter bilge of sh*t service with those jerks. :mad:

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            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

              norm .net wrote:

              a back street garage can be 60-70% cheaper than that of a dealership

              In our country (India) too, consulting with your local neighborhood garage is safer and reliable than visiting your dealer since the latter would be more inclined in (*) Selling more rubbish spare parts to you (*) Initiating a Data Transfer from your wallet to his. ;) At least in Chennai, I have good samples to showcase the nonchalant attitude of big stores. Shops like Landmark have started to become ShameMark. :mad: The after-sales service of the products is really pathetic and you just encounter bilge of sh*t service with those jerks. :mad:

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              Yesterday is a canceled check. Tomorrow is a promissory note. Today is the ready cash. USE IT.

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              NormDroid
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              On my street there is a mobile mechanic (luckily a friend of mine) he'll only charge a fraction of the dealerships and will diagnose the problem for free (VW will charge £80 to pop the bonnet/hood open before even fixing the problem).

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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                I find it amazing how a bill can start at $1000 and end up at $250 after you start picking it apart.

                It's always been the other way for me. I was once charged 25 bucks labor to replace my front left signal indicator light which cost 2 bucks :-(

                Regards, Nish


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                Sebastian Schneider
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                Yeah. I know what you are talking about. However, in my case, the price was justified. They had to remove the freaking radiator fan AND the battery to get to the light. Took half an hour. All the other lights I change myself (takes about 2 minutes to get them replaced), but the front left light assembly is totally inaccessible.

                Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton

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                • T Thunderbox666

                  Just wanted to rant about how annoying cars are. I just picked mine up from the mechanic, and there is over $600 just in labour... so parts on top of that... i was too scared to ask Whats your horror stories with cars?

                  "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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                  Dalek Dave
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                  Wow,you got one cheap mechanic! Last time I put my Big baby(as opposed to my little baby) into the garage for a service it was over £800. Thats about $1700 in todays money! To be fair though, my big baby has 2 engines!

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                    Just wanted to rant about how annoying cars are. I just picked mine up from the mechanic, and there is over $600 just in labour... so parts on top of that... i was too scared to ask Whats your horror stories with cars?

                    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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                    Mycroft Holmes
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                    Ahhh you get no simpathy here. Try living in Singapore No cars older than 10 years Approx 200% the Australian price (Govt taxes) and worst of all nowhere to drive. Bright spots - hardly any traffic jams, taxis are cheap and they do have a great public transport infrastructure. But I LIKE driving. Still it is saving me a fortune by not owning a car.

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                    • N Nish Nishant

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      If you didn't ask, how did you know how much to pay ? You already know that the labour was $600, right ?

                      Probably signed the credit card slip without looking at the actual amount or perhaps by mentally blurring it out. Oh you know, the same way women shop!

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                      Lost User
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                      Like men in gadget shops? ;P

                      Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                      • N NormDroid

                        In our country (UK), repairs tend to be cheaper for non Japanese and Germany cars, a back street garage can be 60-70% cheaper than that of a dealership. I'd always buy a car that was 1 year old, and go for the reliabilty angle; Honda, Toyota are the best cars to buy, but they generally have the most expensive parts. A Opel/Vauxhall is cheaper to buy, the parts are cheap but the car is a whole lot less unreliable.

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                        Lost User
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                        My Ford Mondeo just got written off in a motorwy accident (I was ok fortunately), since I wasn't at fault I got a hire car from Helphire[^] who charge it to the person who caused the accident. Found another 3 year old Mondeo (in panther black :cool: )so picking it up in a couple of weeks. Elaine :rose:

                        Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.

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                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                          Ahhh you get no simpathy here. Try living in Singapore No cars older than 10 years Approx 200% the Australian price (Govt taxes) and worst of all nowhere to drive. Bright spots - hardly any traffic jams, taxis are cheap and they do have a great public transport infrastructure. But I LIKE driving. Still it is saving me a fortune by not owning a car.

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                          Dalek Dave
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                          Hong Kong Similar. Cars Expensive and PT Cheap. The Ferry from Lantau to the Island is about 50p an takes 2 hours! Island to Kowloon only takes 15 mins and is about the same price, but then that is from Central. Rough guide is £1 = $HK 15, and things are cheap there, except cars! My only complaint is the beer in the HK Jockey Club. That is nearly £2 a pint!!!

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                            Just wanted to rant about how annoying cars are. I just picked mine up from the mechanic, and there is over $600 just in labour... so parts on top of that... i was too scared to ask Whats your horror stories with cars?

                            "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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                            Gary Wheeler
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                            In the last three years I've totalled two: my Mazda Miata :(( and my truck :zzz:. Both times the accidents were my fault. My insurance company calls me "sugar daddy" :doh:.


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                              Yeah. I know what you are talking about. However, in my case, the price was justified. They had to remove the freaking radiator fan AND the battery to get to the light. Took half an hour. All the other lights I change myself (takes about 2 minutes to get them replaced), but the front left light assembly is totally inaccessible.

                              Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton

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                              Tom Deketelaere
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                              I know the feeling about a year ago I went to get my front lights changed thinking I'll be in and out of the shop in max of 10 min 2 hour's later I was still there, the had to take a huge part of the engine out just to get to the light :sigh:

                              If my help was helpfull let me know, if not let me know why. The only way we learn is by making mistakes.

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                                Just wanted to rant about how annoying cars are. I just picked mine up from the mechanic, and there is over $600 just in labour... so parts on top of that... i was too scared to ask Whats your horror stories with cars?

                                "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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                                ToddHileHoffer
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                                Nope, I haven't had any car issues in the last 10 years. I purchased 1995 Chevy Lumina with 100K miles on it for $6,000 back in 97. I drove it for three years (without a single problem) until it was in a accident. Took out a loan and purchased a new 2000 Nissan Sentra. I drove that car for about 5 years without a problem. About a year after paying off the loan. I traded in the Sentra and purchased a new 2006 Scion (Toyota) Xb almost exactly two years ago. It hasn't had a single problem. I guess I've been really lucky. My very first car (a used Plymouth Duster) had a thermostat break which caused it to over heat. About $200 to fix. That is the only car problem I have ever had. Do you change your oil at least every 5,000 miles?

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                                  Thunderbox666 wrote:

                                  My last car was a lemon.. $4500 to keep it on the road for 1 year

                                  For peace of mind, unless you are a car expert, always buy a new car.

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                  My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                  jhwurmbach
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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  For peace of mind, unless you are a car expert, always buy a new car.

                                  Or an old car of a type known to be reliable: I am thinking of buying a Mercedes-Benz W210 station wagon[^]. Thats probably more normal here than in America, and we have a saner choice of engines. Its basically an old-mans car: The type of man who washes and polishes it weekly. The car would be 6 to 8 years old, but those that did not rust by now won't start any more. Thats what they say. It costs above 12000 EURO here, and I would get a new car (assembled by enslaved Romanian children for French company Renault) for under 10000 EURO. But there is no long-term experience about the quality of that.


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                                    In the last three years I've totalled two: my Mazda Miata :(( and my truck :zzz:. Both times the accidents were my fault. My insurance company calls me "sugar daddy" :doh:.


                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    jhwurmbach
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                                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                    In the last three years I've totalled two: [...] Both times the accidents were my fault.

                                    You seriously need to think about buying a bike: Your damage and the damage you do to others is mucht reduced! :-D


                                    Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
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                                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                      In the last three years I've totalled two: [...] Both times the accidents were my fault.

                                      You seriously need to think about buying a bike: Your damage and the damage you do to others is mucht reduced! :-D


                                      Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
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                                      Gary Wheeler
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                                      I do have a bike, that I use to commute to work occasionally during the warm weather months :cool:. Seriously though, after the second accident (New Year's Eve this year), I've become a different driver. I turned left in front of an oncoming car at an intersection. I should have waited until the intersection was clear, since visibility is poor at this particular spot. I realized my aggressive driving habits were the cause of my second accident. Since then I've been a lot more cautious, without being timid about it. I leave more room ahead of me, and my threshold for 'enough room' to maneuver is much higher. Interestingly, I enjoy driving more now; it's a lot less stressful :doh:.


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                                        I do have a bike, that I use to commute to work occasionally during the warm weather months :cool:. Seriously though, after the second accident (New Year's Eve this year), I've become a different driver. I turned left in front of an oncoming car at an intersection. I should have waited until the intersection was clear, since visibility is poor at this particular spot. I realized my aggressive driving habits were the cause of my second accident. Since then I've been a lot more cautious, without being timid about it. I leave more room ahead of me, and my threshold for 'enough room' to maneuver is much higher. Interestingly, I enjoy driving more now; it's a lot less stressful :doh:.


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                                        jhwurmbach
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                                        I am trying to keep using my bike even during the winter. The trick seems to be to just not stop driving: After New Years holidays I find it hard to start driving again. I have 10 km per single trip to work, a distance I find quite comfortable. In addition, its quite a scenic tour, along a river troug a natural reserve into the outskirts of the city where the company is located. As to agressive driving: I stoped it when my first child was born. With a baby in the car, I became somewhat over protective. But now, my younger one is 3 crying from the background: "and half!", the kids start to urge me to drive faster. :-O


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                                        • T Thunderbox666

                                          Just wanted to rant about how annoying cars are. I just picked mine up from the mechanic, and there is over $600 just in labour... so parts on top of that... i was too scared to ask Whats your horror stories with cars?

                                          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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                                          Thunderbox666 wrote:

                                          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

                                          From babylon 5. Ambassador Kosh: "Understanding is a three-edged sword." And an explanation from JMS (writer/producer) The three edges: your side, my side, and the truth in between.

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