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  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

    For those that are interested with what is happening with my court room drama for the case to which I have been subpoenaed (ref: Clickety[^] ) today is the first real court session. Its actually the 3rd session, but the first two session where bureaucratic fillers where they formally submitted their charges and the session after we formally submitted our responses to the charges. Today, they bring a so called "witness". A quick refresher, They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure. So, in light of all this, I've wracked my brains trying to figure out what the heck is this guy going to say. I honestly can't wait for the court to be in session just so I can hear what this guy has to say. Wish me luck!

    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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    A true meaning of "Soiled" goods.

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    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

      For those that are interested with what is happening with my court room drama for the case to which I have been subpoenaed (ref: Clickety[^] ) today is the first real court session. Its actually the 3rd session, but the first two session where bureaucratic fillers where they formally submitted their charges and the session after we formally submitted our responses to the charges. Today, they bring a so called "witness". A quick refresher, They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure. So, in light of all this, I've wracked my brains trying to figure out what the heck is this guy going to say. I honestly can't wait for the court to be in session just so I can hear what this guy has to say. Wish me luck!

      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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      Ok. I just got back from court. Their first witness and to quote their lawyer their "prize witness", was their Regional Manager. Background info: After I found the worm I called the restaurant and they seemed rather nonchalant about the incident, so I email their headquarters in Beirut, Lebanon (no Chris, I live in Amman, Jordan :)) with pictures of the worm in the salad and a polite rant telling them I'm no longer coming to their establishment because their behavior was even more disgusting than the worm. So, 10 days later, this guy shows up carrying a fruit basket and another basket filled with restaurant goodies (mostly sandwiches and croissants and what not) and an open invitation for two (my wife and I). So this guy comes along, and agrees that he showed up with the stuff I mentioned, but doesn't even mention that I sent them a complaint, but states that I called the restaurant and threatened them with mass emailing the images. Also, he said he was sure that it was me that sent out the emails because I was an actor in the incident. It took my lawyer 10 minutes (its a SLOW process :sigh:) to pretty much decimate his testimonial. My lawyer asked him whether he was sure I sent out the emails and eventually cornered him into admitting that he is sure of this because it is the only obvious conclusion. Tune in next Tuesday, December 4th for the next episode.

      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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        I am surprised they didn't add the cost of the worm onto the bill!

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        Abu Mami
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        was it a vegetarian salad, or was it supposed to have meat?

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        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

          For those that are interested with what is happening with my court room drama for the case to which I have been subpoenaed (ref: Clickety[^] ) today is the first real court session. Its actually the 3rd session, but the first two session where bureaucratic fillers where they formally submitted their charges and the session after we formally submitted our responses to the charges. Today, they bring a so called "witness". A quick refresher, They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure. So, in light of all this, I've wracked my brains trying to figure out what the heck is this guy going to say. I honestly can't wait for the court to be in session just so I can hear what this guy has to say. Wish me luck!

          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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          You should read Julien Barnes ( History Of The World in 10-1/2 Chapters[^] ) where one of the chapter is a semi fictional lawsuit of woodworms that takes place in 15th century france; it's quite hillarious.


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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            Ok. I just got back from court. Their first witness and to quote their lawyer their "prize witness", was their Regional Manager. Background info: After I found the worm I called the restaurant and they seemed rather nonchalant about the incident, so I email their headquarters in Beirut, Lebanon (no Chris, I live in Amman, Jordan :)) with pictures of the worm in the salad and a polite rant telling them I'm no longer coming to their establishment because their behavior was even more disgusting than the worm. So, 10 days later, this guy shows up carrying a fruit basket and another basket filled with restaurant goodies (mostly sandwiches and croissants and what not) and an open invitation for two (my wife and I). So this guy comes along, and agrees that he showed up with the stuff I mentioned, but doesn't even mention that I sent them a complaint, but states that I called the restaurant and threatened them with mass emailing the images. Also, he said he was sure that it was me that sent out the emails because I was an actor in the incident. It took my lawyer 10 minutes (its a SLOW process :sigh:) to pretty much decimate his testimonial. My lawyer asked him whether he was sure I sent out the emails and eventually cornered him into admitting that he is sure of this because it is the only obvious conclusion. Tune in next Tuesday, December 4th for the next episode.

            "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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            ...and the worm turns

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            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

              For those that are interested with what is happening with my court room drama for the case to which I have been subpoenaed (ref: Clickety[^] ) today is the first real court session. Its actually the 3rd session, but the first two session where bureaucratic fillers where they formally submitted their charges and the session after we formally submitted our responses to the charges. Today, they bring a so called "witness". A quick refresher, They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure. So, in light of all this, I've wracked my brains trying to figure out what the heck is this guy going to say. I honestly can't wait for the court to be in session just so I can hear what this guy has to say. Wish me luck!

              "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

              They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure.

              What did you do, go into a major rant and wag the worm in front of every other customer's face, then blog about the incident? Marc

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure.

                What did you do, go into a major rant and wag the worm in front of every other customer's face, then blog about the incident? Marc

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                Actually, the incident happened at the company where I work. The food was ordered take out. We have about 85 developers, with about 100 employees where EVERYONE and their mother is computer literate. Everyone had access to the photos that were taken when I emailed their headquarters. Basically, they're refusing to consider that since it happened at a "public" place and everyone has access to the pictures that they have 100 probable sources for the emails that have been flying around.

                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them

                  I assume that this is a vegetarian restaurant and the slander is that you found meat.

                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                  :laugh::laugh: Ah Pete! I can always count on you for a laugh! :-D

                  "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                    :laugh::laugh: Ah Pete! I can always count on you for a laugh! :-D

                    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                    How's it going there? Is the lawyer wearing a clown outfit?

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                      How's it going there? Is the lawyer wearing a clown outfit?

                      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                      :-D not yet, but he sure painted their witness with the face paint. Also, he got the Judge to verbally harass & subdue their lawyer because it seemed like he was feeding him the words to say.

                      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                        Ok. I just got back from court. Their first witness and to quote their lawyer their "prize witness", was their Regional Manager. Background info: After I found the worm I called the restaurant and they seemed rather nonchalant about the incident, so I email their headquarters in Beirut, Lebanon (no Chris, I live in Amman, Jordan :)) with pictures of the worm in the salad and a polite rant telling them I'm no longer coming to their establishment because their behavior was even more disgusting than the worm. So, 10 days later, this guy shows up carrying a fruit basket and another basket filled with restaurant goodies (mostly sandwiches and croissants and what not) and an open invitation for two (my wife and I). So this guy comes along, and agrees that he showed up with the stuff I mentioned, but doesn't even mention that I sent them a complaint, but states that I called the restaurant and threatened them with mass emailing the images. Also, he said he was sure that it was me that sent out the emails because I was an actor in the incident. It took my lawyer 10 minutes (its a SLOW process :sigh:) to pretty much decimate his testimonial. My lawyer asked him whether he was sure I sent out the emails and eventually cornered him into admitting that he is sure of this because it is the only obvious conclusion. Tune in next Tuesday, December 4th for the next episode.

                        "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                        I would love to be there and watch :)

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                          I would love to be there and watch :)

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                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                          Since it is a public trial, a friend of mine who happens to work with me, is considering attending the future sessions and filming them, but they're in Arabic :doh: However, if he does film them, I'll post them somewhere and have the clips sub-titled in English & French. :)

                          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                            Ok. I just got back from court. Their first witness and to quote their lawyer their "prize witness", was their Regional Manager. Background info: After I found the worm I called the restaurant and they seemed rather nonchalant about the incident, so I email their headquarters in Beirut, Lebanon (no Chris, I live in Amman, Jordan :)) with pictures of the worm in the salad and a polite rant telling them I'm no longer coming to their establishment because their behavior was even more disgusting than the worm. So, 10 days later, this guy shows up carrying a fruit basket and another basket filled with restaurant goodies (mostly sandwiches and croissants and what not) and an open invitation for two (my wife and I). So this guy comes along, and agrees that he showed up with the stuff I mentioned, but doesn't even mention that I sent them a complaint, but states that I called the restaurant and threatened them with mass emailing the images. Also, he said he was sure that it was me that sent out the emails because I was an actor in the incident. It took my lawyer 10 minutes (its a SLOW process :sigh:) to pretty much decimate his testimonial. My lawyer asked him whether he was sure I sent out the emails and eventually cornered him into admitting that he is sure of this because it is the only obvious conclusion. Tune in next Tuesday, December 4th for the next episode.

                            "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                            I'd like to see him wriggle when you tell your side of the story.

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                              I'd like to see him wriggle when you tell your side of the story.

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                              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                              LOL good follow up to the "soiled" crack :-D

                              "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                                LOL good follow up to the "soiled" crack :-D

                                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                                Cheers, :)

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                                • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                  For those that are interested with what is happening with my court room drama for the case to which I have been subpoenaed (ref: Clickety[^] ) today is the first real court session. Its actually the 3rd session, but the first two session where bureaucratic fillers where they formally submitted their charges and the session after we formally submitted our responses to the charges. Today, they bring a so called "witness". A quick refresher, They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure. So, in light of all this, I've wracked my brains trying to figure out what the heck is this guy going to say. I honestly can't wait for the court to be in session just so I can hear what this guy has to say. Wish me luck!

                                  "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                  For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them

                                  Remember, the early bird gets the worm. This is a sign to come in later. :-D

                                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                    For those that are interested with what is happening with my court room drama for the case to which I have been subpoenaed (ref: Clickety[^] ) today is the first real court session. Its actually the 3rd session, but the first two session where bureaucratic fillers where they formally submitted their charges and the session after we formally submitted our responses to the charges. Today, they bring a so called "witness". A quick refresher, They're suing me for slander, harmful defamation and damages. For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them. Go figure. So, in light of all this, I've wracked my brains trying to figure out what the heck is this guy going to say. I honestly can't wait for the court to be in session just so I can hear what this guy has to say. Wish me luck!

                                    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                                    Maybe what you should do is claim that the worm bit you. Then sue for medical expenses.

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                                      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                      For a worm I found in a salad I ordered from them

                                      Remember, the early bird gets the worm. This is a sign to come in later. :-D

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      Joey Bloggs
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                                      But the second mouse gets the cheese ;P

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