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  • J Joao Vaz

    According to this article on Slashdot Legalizing Attacks on P2P Networks [new window] quoting "Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) wants to legalize DoS attacks on P2P.." GOSH :omg: !!!! These politians are becoming insane ? :~ Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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    Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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    the world has gone insane! wot the fcuk is he on trying to legalise that. I could see it now, someone attacks some bi company, and gets off their charge, cos they say... 'i'm sorry, i thought it was a p2p network' hope they dont allow it, I use kazaa.


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      the world has gone insane! wot the fcuk is he on trying to legalise that. I could see it now, someone attacks some bi company, and gets off their charge, cos they say... 'i'm sorry, i thought it was a p2p network' hope they dont allow it, I use kazaa.


      :bob: Email: theeclypse@hotmail.com   URL: http://www.onyeyiri.co.uk:bob:

      "What goes up must come down. Ask any system administrator"

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      Joao Vaz
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      They're trying to combat fire with fire ... let's see if this is approved, who get's burned first ... Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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        They're trying to combat fire with fire ... let's see if this is approved, who get's burned first ... Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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        Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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        they cant stop it. kazaa and other p2p networks will improve the security, to make it harder.


        :bob: Email: theeclypse@hotmail.com   URL: http://www.onyeyiri.co.uk:bob:

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          the world has gone insane! wot the fcuk is he on trying to legalise that. I could see it now, someone attacks some bi company, and gets off their charge, cos they say... 'i'm sorry, i thought it was a p2p network' hope they dont allow it, I use kazaa.


          :bob: Email: theeclypse@hotmail.com   URL: http://www.onyeyiri.co.uk:bob:

          "What goes up must come down. Ask any system administrator"

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          benjymous
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          "I thought they're breaking my copyright, so I hacked their whole network" If this is legalized, will they be able to do just that? I wouldn't be surprised if they the RIAA didn't just set up thousands of PCs on fast connections to run KaZaA, and host lots of viruses and trojans named to look like songs (the average user would be too dim to realise that brittneyspears_doubleclickme.exe probably isn't a music file) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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            "I thought they're breaking my copyright, so I hacked their whole network" If this is legalized, will they be able to do just that? I wouldn't be surprised if they the RIAA didn't just set up thousands of PCs on fast connections to run KaZaA, and host lots of viruses and trojans named to look like songs (the average user would be too dim to realise that brittneyspears_doubleclickme.exe probably isn't a music file) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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            Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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            suppose so, unless they make a condition that they have to be able to prove the copyright is being broken. which on something like kazaa is not hard. just type in something like 'windows xp' and you will get loads of results.


            :bob: Email: theeclypse@hotmail.com   URL: http://www.onyeyiri.co.uk:bob:

            "What goes up must come down. Ask any system administrator"

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            • J Joao Vaz

              According to this article on Slashdot Legalizing Attacks on P2P Networks [new window] quoting "Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) wants to legalize DoS attacks on P2P.." GOSH :omg: !!!! These politians are becoming insane ? :~ Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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              Great idea!! Make it legal to shoot thives also! /Magnus

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                "I thought they're breaking my copyright, so I hacked their whole network" If this is legalized, will they be able to do just that? I wouldn't be surprised if they the RIAA didn't just set up thousands of PCs on fast connections to run KaZaA, and host lots of viruses and trojans named to look like songs (the average user would be too dim to realise that brittneyspears_doubleclickme.exe probably isn't a music file) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                Joao Vaz
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                benjymous wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they the RIAA didn't just set up thousands of PCs on fast connections to run KaZaA, and host lots of viruses and trojans named to look like songs Actually, they may thinking seriously in making this kind or similar action of sabottage ... :~ Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                • J Joao Vaz

                  According to this article on Slashdot Legalizing Attacks on P2P Networks [new window] quoting "Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) wants to legalize DoS attacks on P2P.." GOSH :omg: !!!! These politians are becoming insane ? :~ Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                  This representant is trying to promote an US law to allow attacks Worldwide ?!? Isn't it a casus belli ? what would be the US reaction if EU promote a law enabling to attack americans networks and servers ? And always the same old lies of RIAA: "Internet piracy undermines the growth of legitimate online music sites and hurts all consumers in the long run", which should be translated as: "Internet piracy undermines our possibilities making money with our online music sites and hurts our capacities to dictate to all consumers what they should listen to and buy" Y'a cool jouer avec Maradona qui fait tourner gratos dans les vestiaires - Merci Maradona ! - Y'a pas d'quoi ! Ludwig Von 88, "Goal Di Pele"

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                    Great idea!! Make it legal to shoot thives also! /Magnus

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                    Joao Vaz
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                    Magnus H wrote: Great idea!! Make it legal to shoot thives also! LOL :laugh: Actually you can do it in self defense ;P Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                      This representant is trying to promote an US law to allow attacks Worldwide ?!? Isn't it a casus belli ? what would be the US reaction if EU promote a law enabling to attack americans networks and servers ? And always the same old lies of RIAA: "Internet piracy undermines the growth of legitimate online music sites and hurts all consumers in the long run", which should be translated as: "Internet piracy undermines our possibilities making money with our online music sites and hurts our capacities to dictate to all consumers what they should listen to and buy" Y'a cool jouer avec Maradona qui fait tourner gratos dans les vestiaires - Merci Maradona ! - Y'a pas d'quoi ! Ludwig Von 88, "Goal Di Pele"

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                      Joao Vaz
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                      Karl wrote: This representant is trying to promote an US law to allow attacks Worldwide ?!? Isn't it a casus belli ? I think so . For the guy is a perfect reason to war , so ... This remembers me the "dirty war" in Spain that was making terrorism to terrorists (ETA group) So the representant thinks that he have a clear case that war justifies war at any cost ... even employing illegal Denial of Services to bring down the p2p networks ... :wtf: Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                        Magnus H wrote: Great idea!! Make it legal to shoot thives also! LOL :laugh: Actually you can do it in self defense ;P Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                        benjymous
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                        Yeah, but the thief's family will get you convicted, and win[^] -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                          Yeah, but the thief's family will get you convicted, and win[^] -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                          Joao Vaz
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                          Thanks for the link ! What a case , ehh ? Controversial ! Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                            Karl wrote: This representant is trying to promote an US law to allow attacks Worldwide ?!? Isn't it a casus belli ? I think so . For the guy is a perfect reason to war , so ... This remembers me the "dirty war" in Spain that was making terrorism to terrorists (ETA group) So the representant thinks that he have a clear case that war justifies war at any cost ... even employing illegal Denial of Services to bring down the p2p networks ... :wtf: Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                            Joao Vaz wrote: the "dirty war" in Spain I remember that. It caused the fall of the previous spanish government, didn't it ? Joao Vaz wrote: the representant thinks that he have a clear case that war justifies war at any cost It' like the article about the "rest of world cup": "When we trumpeted globalization, we were pretty clear that we meant other countries acting like us, not vice versa" Y'a cool jouer avec Maradona qui fait tourner gratos dans les vestiaires - Merci Maradona ! - Y'a pas d'quoi ! Ludwig Von 88, "Goal Di Pele"

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                              Thanks for the link ! What a case , ehh ? Controversial ! Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                              benjymous
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                              Yeah, very. Pretty much everyone supported the farmer, and there was huge uproar when he was convicted of murder -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                                Yeah, very. Pretty much everyone supported the farmer, and there was huge uproar when he was convicted of murder -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                                Joao Vaz
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                                benjymous wrote: Yeah, very. Pretty much everyone supported the farmer, and there was huge uproar when he was convicted of murder Really , a though decision to make ... but fair ? Who knows ? Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                                  Joao Vaz wrote: the "dirty war" in Spain I remember that. It caused the fall of the previous spanish government, didn't it ? Joao Vaz wrote: the representant thinks that he have a clear case that war justifies war at any cost It' like the article about the "rest of world cup": "When we trumpeted globalization, we were pretty clear that we meant other countries acting like us, not vice versa" Y'a cool jouer avec Maradona qui fait tourner gratos dans les vestiaires - Merci Maradona ! - Y'a pas d'quoi ! Ludwig Von 88, "Goal Di Pele"

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                                  Karl wrote: It caused the fall of the previous spanish government, didn't it ? Yeap, it caused . A lot of scandals arised from this situation. Karl wrote: It' like the article about the "rest of world cup": "When we trumpeted globalization, we were pretty clear that we meant other countries acting like us, not vice versa" Moi aussi. That was funny indeed :-) Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                                    benjymous wrote: Yeah, very. Pretty much everyone supported the farmer, and there was huge uproar when he was convicted of murder Really , a though decision to make ... but fair ? Who knows ? Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                                    benjymous
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                                    It wasn't the fact he was convicted, but that it was murder rather than manslaughter (due to him acting in self defence) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                                      It wasn't the fact he was convicted, but that it was murder rather than manslaughter (due to him acting in self defence) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                                      Joao Vaz
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                                      benjymous wrote: It wasn't the fact he was convicted, but that it was murder rather than manslaughter (due to him acting in self defence) Yeah . Strange the conviction for murder :wtf: Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                                        According to this article on Slashdot Legalizing Attacks on P2P Networks [new window] quoting "Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.) wants to legalize DoS attacks on P2P.." GOSH :omg: !!!! These politians are becoming insane ? :~ Cheers, Joao Vaz A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person - Natalie Portman (Padme/Amidala of Star Wars)

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                                        Hey, if a thief breaks into my house at 2 AM and tries to steal my guitar, he's likely to find himself dodging some rather well placed 9mm rounds. If someone tries to steal the songs I wrote with that guitar, why can't I shoot back in the digital domain to protect my property? Don't want to get shot at? Don't steal. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                                          This representant is trying to promote an US law to allow attacks Worldwide ?!? Isn't it a casus belli ? what would be the US reaction if EU promote a law enabling to attack americans networks and servers ? And always the same old lies of RIAA: "Internet piracy undermines the growth of legitimate online music sites and hurts all consumers in the long run", which should be translated as: "Internet piracy undermines our possibilities making money with our online music sites and hurts our capacities to dictate to all consumers what they should listen to and buy" Y'a cool jouer avec Maradona qui fait tourner gratos dans les vestiaires - Merci Maradona ! - Y'a pas d'quoi ! Ludwig Von 88, "Goal Di Pele"

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                                          Karl wrote: And always the same old lies of RIAA: "Internet piracy undermines the growth of legitimate online music sites and hurts all consumers in the long run", which should be translated as: "Internet piracy undermines our possibilities making money with our online music sites and hurts our capacities to dictate to all consumers what they should listen to and buy" Why is it that everyone always talks about RIAA and the leeching record labels when justifying piracy, but they never talk about how it hurts the people who wrote the songs you enjoy - the musicians? We get screwed badly enough by the record companies as it is. Piracy takes away what few bread crumbs they throw us. Find a way to penalize the corporate rip off artists who steal musicians blind (labels, organized as RIAA or not) without taking money out of the bands' pockets and I might even support it. Until then, when you steal from a record label, you steal from a musician. We didn't do anything to deserve that, even if the label did. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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