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  • M Member 96

    No idea, I'm working only in .net 2 right now.


    More people died from worry than ever bled to death. - RAH

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    Michael Sync
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    me too.. :) Microsoft is the only one who wanna move one version after another.. The most of software companies are still enjoying with .NET 1.1 or 2.0.

    Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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      John Cardinal wrote:

      automatic properties, extension methods, anonymous types

      Those are in .NET 3.0, right??

      Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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      Judah Gabriel Himango
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      Michael Sync wrote:

      Those are in .NET 3.0, right??

      No, .NET 3 is just .NET 2 + WPF. .NET 3 is the new one being released right now, which includes a new .NET framework, new C# features (e.g. C# LINQ syntax, automatic properties, anonymous types, lambda expressions, ...), and new Visual Basic syntax for similar things, plus special VB syntax for dealing with XML. Note that .NET 3.5 does *not* require a new CLR. Everything in .NET 3.5, and indeed in .NET 3, are either new libraries added to the .NET framework and new language syntax candy. The CLR hasn't changed since 2.0 with generics. That means one can theoretically use these new features of C# 3.5 and still run on .NET 2.0.

      Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion (audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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        Michael Sync wrote:

        Those are in .NET 3.0, right??

        No, .NET 3 is just .NET 2 + WPF. .NET 3 is the new one being released right now, which includes a new .NET framework, new C# features (e.g. C# LINQ syntax, automatic properties, anonymous types, lambda expressions, ...), and new Visual Basic syntax for similar things, plus special VB syntax for dealing with XML. Note that .NET 3.5 does *not* require a new CLR. Everything in .NET 3.5, and indeed in .NET 3, are either new libraries added to the .NET framework and new language syntax candy. The CLR hasn't changed since 2.0 with generics. That means one can theoretically use these new features of C# 3.5 and still run on .NET 2.0.

        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: No, Not I - A poem by Holocaust escapee, chief rabbi, and Messiah-follower Daniel Zion (audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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        Judah Himango wrote:

        C# LINQ syntax, automatic properties, anonymous types, lambda expressions

        I saw those things in C# 3.0 specification.. So, C# 3.0 is for .NET 3.5? I'm very confused with those versions.. Can you please clarify this? .NET 1.1 = C# 1.0 , VB.NET 8.0 .NET 2.0 = C# 2.0 , VB.NET 9.0 .NET 3.0 = C# 3.0 ?, ?? .NET 3.5 = C# 3.0 ?, ??

        Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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          Rocky Moore wrote:

          such as using a "for" loop.

          Funny that, I find myself rarely ever using a for loop anymore and using foreach instead with almost the only exception being cases where I need to modify the collection being iterated inside the loop.


          More people died from worry than ever bled to death. - RAH

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          Brady Kelly
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          I found myself almost being reacquainted with for in a recent project. I did a lot of work with correspondences between collections, for it was either foreach and an extra index variable, or a for loop and just use one index variable. Yes, I know lots of people would tell me that 'smells funny', and it is a prime target for refactoring, but it was more important to have it working than smelling like roses.

          My head asplode!

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          • M Michael Sync

            John Cardinal wrote:

            automatic properties, extension methods, anonymous types

            Those are in .NET 3.0, right??

            Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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            Michael Sync wrote:

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            No, they are in .NET 3.5, but C# 3.0.

            My head asplode!

            Calling all South African developers! Your participation in this local dev community will be mutually beneficial, to you and us.

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            • M Michael Sync

              me too.. :) Microsoft is the only one who wanna move one version after another.. The most of software companies are still enjoying with .NET 1.1 or 2.0.

              Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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              Brady Kelly
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              We are waiting with baited breath for VS2008, to continue working on our 2.0 project, but with the promised IDE enhancements.

              My head asplode!

              Calling all South African developers! Your participation in this local dev community will be mutually beneficial, to you and us.

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                Michael Sync wrote:

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                No, they are in .NET 3.5, but C# 3.0.

                My head asplode!

                Calling all South African developers! Your participation in this local dev community will be mutually beneficial, to you and us.

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                Okay. I see.. Thanks..

                Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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                • M Member 96

                  Technically yes you could do that and we all do I'm sure with static helper methods. It does seem cleaner in a way to use an extension method but as I was reading it I was thinking about the case where you're coming in cold to look at some source code someone else wrote and you see something like this: string s=arg1; if(s.ValidURL()) { //blah blah; } Which can be all kinds of confusing versus: string s=arg1; if(UrlChecker.ValidURL(s)) { // blah blah; } Or what happens if you add an extension method to object and it conflicts with something you've written in a class derived from object?


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                  John Cardinal wrote:

                  Or what happens if you add an extension method to object and it conflicts with something you've written in a class derived from object?

                  In that case, class methods have precedence over extension methods. Extension methods require you to put the cursor on the call and look at the tooltip to see what's really being called, so I agree, they should only be used when they really help simplify the calling code - for operations that are likely to be chained (e.g. LINQ). Most extension methods examples I've seen so far tend to focus on extending the built-in types with unrelated methods, so I thought I should mention that the main benefit of extension methods is the infix syntax. Avoid extension methods if you don't need infix notation.

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                  • M Michael Sync

                    Judah Himango wrote:

                    C# LINQ syntax, automatic properties, anonymous types, lambda expressions

                    I saw those things in C# 3.0 specification.. So, C# 3.0 is for .NET 3.5? I'm very confused with those versions.. Can you please clarify this? .NET 1.1 = C# 1.0 , VB.NET 8.0 .NET 2.0 = C# 2.0 , VB.NET 9.0 .NET 3.0 = C# 3.0 ?, ?? .NET 3.5 = C# 3.0 ?, ??

                    Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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                    Judah Gabriel Himango
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                    Yes, the C# language is at version 3. The .NET framework library is at version 3.5. .NET 3 had library changes (WPF, WCF, and others). That's it. The languages didn't change, so you still use C# 2 or VB 8 for that, just like you did for .NET 2. People get confused when they try to think of the .NET framework, the languages, and the CLR as kind of an "all-in-one" package that all get updated simultaneously. They're not. Instead, each gets updated in its own course of time. That's why we have CLR 2, .NET framework 3.5, C# 3, and VB 9.

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: The Lord Is So Good The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                    • M Michael Sync

                      Judah Himango wrote:

                      C# LINQ syntax, automatic properties, anonymous types, lambda expressions

                      I saw those things in C# 3.0 specification.. So, C# 3.0 is for .NET 3.5? I'm very confused with those versions.. Can you please clarify this? .NET 1.1 = C# 1.0 , VB.NET 8.0 .NET 2.0 = C# 2.0 , VB.NET 9.0 .NET 3.0 = C# 3.0 ?, ?? .NET 3.5 = C# 3.0 ?, ??

                      Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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                      Here's a handy poster from Paul Andrew that clears up the .NET framework version differences. http://blogs.msdn.com/pandrew/archive/2007/11/02/announcing-the-net-framework-3-5-commonly-used-types-and-namespaces-poster.aspx[^]

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