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  • R Rick Seenarine

    Balboos wrote:

    A MSDN subscription is a user license. You (if you're the regestered user) can install the software on multiple machines for your use (only).

    Just curious, on that point, if your using a user license provided by your company then anything made with that dev tool (whether for research or open-source) would be the property of the company no? If the author of the thread is aiming to build technology to either sell or promote himself (therefore independent of work requirements) then this may not be a route to go.

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    Dan Neely
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    Rick Seenarine wrote:

    Just curious, on that point, if your using a user license provided by your company then anything made with that dev tool (whether for research or open-source) would be the property of the company no?

    that provision is part of policy where I work. Not being a lawyer I don't know how, or if, it would stand up in court.

    -- Help Stamp Out and Abolish Redundancy The preceding is courtesy of the Department of Unnecessarily Redundant Repetition Department.

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    • W W Balboos GHB

      Well . . . if these people are working for someone (as programmers), than their employers should foot the bill. Even as a contractor, my employer has done so. It's cheaper for them than buying all the various packages and O/S I need for development. Taking full advantage of it as a user-license product, and since I work from home, as well, I've synched my home systems and laptop to contain the same tools, O/S, etc, as my prinicpal employer. That, plus the company workstation they supplied: 4 copies each of VS2003, VS2005, XP Professional - to start. Then there are items I've downloaded just to try out, such as MapPoint & its SDK, so that I could demonstrate to them the auto-formatting/standardization/correction of addresses. Although, in the countries cited, the employees are paid in spit, their employers are raking in fortunes. They could easily afford the sub's. It's just that piracy is noticably cheaper. This begs another question: Suppose piracy disappeared: would MS lower prices to the rest of us?

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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      Michael Sync
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      I wish I can work like you do.. In my company, my manager doesn't interest to buy the MSDN subscription. They don't allow anyone to copy anything (including Visual Studio, Windows and etc) from Office..

      Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net)

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      • M Michael Sync

        yeah. I want to buy MSDN subscription and Visual Studio Professional version.. but I can't... so, I hav to enjoy with Express versions..

        Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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        Mark Salsbery
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        Michael Sync wrote:

        so, I hav to enjoy with Express versions.

        Enjoy?

        Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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        • M Michael Sync

          I wish I can work like you do.. In my company, my manager doesn't interest to buy the MSDN subscription. They don't allow anyone to copy anything (including Visual Studio, Windows and etc) from Office..

          Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net)

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          W Balboos GHB
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          Not allowing the copying could be because (without the MSDN subscription) the copies would be illegal and they could be sued. Even with the subscription, it is only legal for a single (regestered) user to make the copies. It's a nice deal from Microsoft (if you can afford it), but they're not crazy. As for your wish - not everything about this environment is pleasant. I won't go into particulars, but I have problems with 'control freaks', too. Just different problems. I've an application (requested by the COO) that's been ready since the end of August for a beta-deployment. It's still waiting. A key person involved in authorizing installation ignores my request and doesn't acknowledge email. No one seems to want to 'nudge' him. Nothing involving IT happens without his say so. Some good fortune lies in the fact the management knows about his behavioral quirks and that I've done all I can do.

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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          • M Mark Salsbery

            Michael Sync wrote:

            so, I hav to enjoy with Express versions.

            Enjoy?

            Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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            Michael Sync
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            :) The Express edition is the best while I'm not able to afford to buy the professional version.. it much better than SharpDevelop that I used when I was working for .NET 1.1 project..

            Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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            • M Michael Sync

              yeah. I want to buy MSDN subscription and Visual Studio Professional version.. but I can't... so, I hav to enjoy with Express versions..

              Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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              Patrick Etc
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              Michael Sync wrote:

              I want to buy MSDN subscription and Visual Studio Professional version.. but I can't... so, I hav to enjoy with Express versions..

              You could just buy VS without the subscription.. would save you about $400.. Per your other post about #Develop, SharpDevelop has much improved since .NET 1.1 development. I don't personally use it, but I've dabbled and it does most tasks admirably well. I say "admirably" because I still think of it as a toy..


              It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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              • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                MS often give away complementary licences, which are ideal for this purpose. If you get yourself to one of the VS2008 launch events in February you will almost certainly come away with complementary licences for Visual Studio 2008 Standard/Pro (depending on the event), SQL Server 2008 Standard and Windows Server 2008 Standard. Failing that, attend any software conference MS are sponsoring and you'll almost certainly walk away with something - they were giving away VS2005 licences at the ACCU Conference in April, for example - and at European Software Conference a couple of weeks back all delegates were given VS2005 and Expression Media. There's always a way. :)

                Anna :rose: Linting the day away :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                If you get yourself to one of the VS2008 launch events in February

                Google fails me. Do you have any links? I'd like to see about attending.


                It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                • P Patrick Etc

                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                  If you get yourself to one of the VS2008 launch events in February

                  Google fails me. Do you have any links? I'd like to see about attending.


                  It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                  I don't think a definitive schedule has been published, yet,but if you hunt around the blogosphere you will come across snippets like this: Our next big event will be TechDays 2008, where we will celebrate the launch of Visual Studio, Windows Server and the upcoming SQL Server 2008. While preparation work is already up to speed, we expect to have our website live around mid December. Every TechDays attendee will receive a free full version of Windows Server 2008 (Standard Edition), Visual Studio 2008 (Standard Edition) plus the latest SQL Server 2008 edition available, all not for resale. Therefore, make yourself ready and save the dates: Geneva: 12/13 March 2008, Basel 19/20 March 2008. (from http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=357524[^]). We'll almost certainly be at the London launch event so if that happens to be the one you end up at please do say hello. :)

                  Anna :rose: Linting the day away :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                  • M Michael Sync

                    Ref : http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/bb841434.aspx Who can buy the MSDN subscription??? I mean, among the developers.. The salary range for developer in my area are between USD 1600 and 2000. (I know there are some developers who used to get around $100~$500 per month in some countries.) So, how can we buy this MSDN subscription ($1199)??

                    Visual Studio Professional Edition with MSDN Professional ($1,199)

                    Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net)

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                    Tim Craig
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                    Michael Sync wrote:

                    Who can buy the MSDN subscription???

                    I'm retired. I did enough to support Microsoft. :~

                    Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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                    • T Tim Craig

                      Michael Sync wrote:

                      Who can buy the MSDN subscription???

                      I'm retired. I did enough to support Microsoft. :~

                      Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.

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                      Michael Sync
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                      :) I'm still working and haven't enough to support them. I want to support more by buying MSDN subscription or VS Professional version or windows vista.. :)

                      Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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