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    Got me some money for my birthday and have just puchased some hardware to make me a new computer. The platform choice was made for me by price alone. Purchase 2GB of PC800 RAM at AUD$155.00 and for AUD$10.00 get an AMD X2 4800+ CPU. Throw in another AUD$79.00 and I got an Abit NF-M2SV[^] all in one motherboard. So now I am in the market for a graphics card, budget has narrowed it down to 2 choices. 1 nVIDIA and 1 ATI. I really have no idea what great benefits if any one has over the other. So I will throw it out here and see if anyone has an answer to which is better and why. Hightech ATI HD2600Pro PCI-E 512MB[^] Leadtek Winfast PX8600GT TDH PCI-E 256MB[^] So what choice would you make?

    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      Got me some money for my birthday and have just puchased some hardware to make me a new computer. The platform choice was made for me by price alone. Purchase 2GB of PC800 RAM at AUD$155.00 and for AUD$10.00 get an AMD X2 4800+ CPU. Throw in another AUD$79.00 and I got an Abit NF-M2SV[^] all in one motherboard. So now I am in the market for a graphics card, budget has narrowed it down to 2 choices. 1 nVIDIA and 1 ATI. I really have no idea what great benefits if any one has over the other. So I will throw it out here and see if anyone has an answer to which is better and why. Hightech ATI HD2600Pro PCI-E 512MB[^] Leadtek Winfast PX8600GT TDH PCI-E 256MB[^] So what choice would you make?

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      From someone who is neither an MS fanboy nor an anti-MS bigot but just another dev, don't go for Vista. I've been using it for ~6 months on a dual core Turion 1.6 Ghz with 2 GB RAM and it's as slow as molasses. Now to sit back and wait for the flames and 1 votes.... ;)

      Cheers, विक्रम


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        Got me some money for my birthday and have just puchased some hardware to make me a new computer. The platform choice was made for me by price alone. Purchase 2GB of PC800 RAM at AUD$155.00 and for AUD$10.00 get an AMD X2 4800+ CPU. Throw in another AUD$79.00 and I got an Abit NF-M2SV[^] all in one motherboard. So now I am in the market for a graphics card, budget has narrowed it down to 2 choices. 1 nVIDIA and 1 ATI. I really have no idea what great benefits if any one has over the other. So I will throw it out here and see if anyone has an answer to which is better and why. Hightech ATI HD2600Pro PCI-E 512MB[^] Leadtek Winfast PX8600GT TDH PCI-E 256MB[^] So what choice would you make?

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        neither, both suck badly. The 8800GT is roughly 2x as fast as either of those, although there's currently a supply crunch of them, prices have risen from thier launch target of $200-250US to almost $300US. The cheaper, but almost as fast alternatives from ATI are the 3870 and 3850. US Prices are around $220/180 respectively. The 8600GTS is better than the 2600, but both suck for gaming and are overkill for almost anything else.

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          Got me some money for my birthday and have just puchased some hardware to make me a new computer. The platform choice was made for me by price alone. Purchase 2GB of PC800 RAM at AUD$155.00 and for AUD$10.00 get an AMD X2 4800+ CPU. Throw in another AUD$79.00 and I got an Abit NF-M2SV[^] all in one motherboard. So now I am in the market for a graphics card, budget has narrowed it down to 2 choices. 1 nVIDIA and 1 ATI. I really have no idea what great benefits if any one has over the other. So I will throw it out here and see if anyone has an answer to which is better and why. Hightech ATI HD2600Pro PCI-E 512MB[^] Leadtek Winfast PX8600GT TDH PCI-E 256MB[^] So what choice would you make?

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          My Birthday was 3 days ago on the 18th...got a 500gig Western Digital hard drive :) ...took 2 hours and 15 minutes to format! I stick with ATI myself...I've always had good luck with them. Dunno about them since AMD bought them now though...I stick with genu-whine Intel processors...the last AMD I owned was a 286 :) Sapphire makes good graphics cards based on the ATI chipsets...you can check them out here: http://www.sapphiretech.com/[^] Good luck with your new box and happy B-day Michael!

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            neither, both suck badly. The 8800GT is roughly 2x as fast as either of those, although there's currently a supply crunch of them, prices have risen from thier launch target of $200-250US to almost $300US. The cheaper, but almost as fast alternatives from ATI are the 3870 and 3850. US Prices are around $220/180 respectively. The 8600GTS is better than the 2600, but both suck for gaming and are overkill for almost anything else.

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            8800GTS is better and good chioce.

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              8800GTS is better and good chioce.

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              i think so

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                8800GTS is better and good chioce.

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                Hamid. wrote:

                8800GTS is better and good chioce.

                I agree. Value for money wise the GTS is the way to go. I'd save up a little longer for this card. The other two are midrange cards that will get old real fast.


                Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.


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                  Hamid. wrote:

                  8800GTS is better and good chioce.

                  I agree. Value for money wise the GTS is the way to go. I'd save up a little longer for this card. The other two are midrange cards that will get old real fast.


                  Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis. I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.


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                  Except memory some things are important for select a graphic card for example: Memory Interface of 8600GTS is 128 bit but 8800GTS is 320-bit.

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                    From someone who is neither an MS fanboy nor an anti-MS bigot but just another dev, don't go for Vista. I've been using it for ~6 months on a dual core Turion 1.6 Ghz with 2 GB RAM and it's as slow as molasses. Now to sit back and wait for the flames and 1 votes.... ;)

                    Cheers, विक्रम


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                    I used it for more than 10 months and I find it very responsive (the hardware is slightly better probably).

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                      Got me some money for my birthday and have just puchased some hardware to make me a new computer. The platform choice was made for me by price alone. Purchase 2GB of PC800 RAM at AUD$155.00 and for AUD$10.00 get an AMD X2 4800+ CPU. Throw in another AUD$79.00 and I got an Abit NF-M2SV[^] all in one motherboard. So now I am in the market for a graphics card, budget has narrowed it down to 2 choices. 1 nVIDIA and 1 ATI. I really have no idea what great benefits if any one has over the other. So I will throw it out here and see if anyone has an answer to which is better and why. Hightech ATI HD2600Pro PCI-E 512MB[^] Leadtek Winfast PX8600GT TDH PCI-E 256MB[^] So what choice would you make?

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                      I got a 8600GT, works fine at 1920 x 1200 :)

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                        My Birthday was 3 days ago on the 18th...got a 500gig Western Digital hard drive :) ...took 2 hours and 15 minutes to format! I stick with ATI myself...I've always had good luck with them. Dunno about them since AMD bought them now though...I stick with genu-whine Intel processors...the last AMD I owned was a 286 :) Sapphire makes good graphics cards based on the ATI chipsets...you can check them out here: http://www.sapphiretech.com/[^] Good luck with your new box and happy B-day Michael!

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                          8800GTS is better and good chioce.

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                          No it is not. The 8800GTS-320 is roughly the same cost and significantly slower. THe 8800GTS-640 is maginally slower but costs $100 more. The GTX/Ultra are only more than marginally faster at 2560x1600. The 8800GT is nvidia's first 65nm part and is aggressively canibalizing the rest of the product line. It doesn't have enough memory to keep up at 2560x1600, but at all lesser resolutions it outperforms the old 90nm parts for significantly less/ http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxMCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==[^]

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                            From someone who is neither an MS fanboy nor an anti-MS bigot but just another dev, don't go for Vista. I've been using it for ~6 months on a dual core Turion 1.6 Ghz with 2 GB RAM and it's as slow as molasses. Now to sit back and wait for the flames and 1 votes.... ;)

                            Cheers, विक्रम


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                            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                            I've been using it for ~6 months on a dual core Turion 1.6 Ghz with 2 GB RAM and it's as slow as molasses.

                            That's why I always go for Intel. Turions are always slower in comparison.

                            Regards, Nish


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                              neither, both suck badly. The 8800GT is roughly 2x as fast as either of those, although there's currently a supply crunch of them, prices have risen from thier launch target of $200-250US to almost $300US. The cheaper, but almost as fast alternatives from ATI are the 3870 and 3850. US Prices are around $220/180 respectively. The 8600GTS is better than the 2600, but both suck for gaming and are overkill for almost anything else.

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                              dan neely wrote:

                              The 8800GT is roughly 2x as fast as either of those, although there's currently a supply crunch of them, prices have risen from thier launch target of $200-250US to almost $300US.

                              Well unfortunately that is about my budget to purchase the graphics card and 2 x 500GB SATA II HDD's.

                              dan neely wrote:

                              The 8600GTS is better than the 2600, but both suck for gaming and are overkill for almost anything else.

                              I think I have decided on the MSI RX2600XT 256MB GDDR3[^], I can get it for about AUD$115.00. I'm not a big gamer, matter of fact can't think of any game I have played in the last 10+ years. But you never know when I might start and at least I'm not going to waste system RAM for graphics. <EDIT> If I go nVIDIA I can get the Galaxy 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3[^] for AUD$176.00 but that is AUD$60.00 odd that I can spend on something else. </EDIT>

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                My Birthday was 3 days ago on the 18th...got a 500gig Western Digital hard drive :) ...took 2 hours and 15 minutes to format! I stick with ATI myself...I've always had good luck with them. Dunno about them since AMD bought them now though...I stick with genu-whine Intel processors...the last AMD I owned was a 286 :) Sapphire makes good graphics cards based on the ATI chipsets...you can check them out here: http://www.sapphiretech.com/[^] Good luck with your new box and happy B-day Michael!

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                                David Lockwood wrote:

                                My Birthday was 3 days ago on the 18th...

                                16th for me.

                                David Lockwood wrote:

                                ...got a 500gig Western Digital hard drive...

                                Looking to get 2 500GB SATA II Samsungs in the next couple of weeks, the price is too good to pass up.

                                David Lockwood wrote:

                                I stick with genu-whine Intel processors...the last AMD I owned was a 286 :)

                                AMD's are good, currently running an Athlon64 3000+ and it has never missed a beat, my Intel at work is constantly hanging for no good reason. Happens in Windows and during boot up before Windows loads.

                                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                  David Lockwood wrote:

                                  My Birthday was 3 days ago on the 18th...

                                  16th for me.

                                  David Lockwood wrote:

                                  ...got a 500gig Western Digital hard drive...

                                  Looking to get 2 500GB SATA II Samsungs in the next couple of weeks, the price is too good to pass up.

                                  David Lockwood wrote:

                                  I stick with genu-whine Intel processors...the last AMD I owned was a 286 :)

                                  AMD's are good, currently running an Athlon64 3000+ and it has never missed a beat, my Intel at work is constantly hanging for no good reason. Happens in Windows and during boot up before Windows loads.

                                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                  Michael Martin wrote:

                                  my Intel at work is constantly hanging for no good reason. Happens in Windows and during boot up before Windows loads.

                                  I had some problems like that about 6 months ago...it turned out to be the power supply...the more power saving features they put in them, the tetchier they get. If you're hearing any electrical switching sounds like a relay or something before it hangs, it could be that. I'm holding out for a 45nm Quad Core...still getting good use out of my P4 2.4Ghz Prescott :omg:

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                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    The 8800GT is roughly 2x as fast as either of those, although there's currently a supply crunch of them, prices have risen from thier launch target of $200-250US to almost $300US.

                                    Well unfortunately that is about my budget to purchase the graphics card and 2 x 500GB SATA II HDD's.

                                    dan neely wrote:

                                    The 8600GTS is better than the 2600, but both suck for gaming and are overkill for almost anything else.

                                    I think I have decided on the MSI RX2600XT 256MB GDDR3[^], I can get it for about AUD$115.00. I'm not a big gamer, matter of fact can't think of any game I have played in the last 10+ years. But you never know when I might start and at least I'm not going to waste system RAM for graphics. <EDIT> If I go nVIDIA I can get the Galaxy 8600GTS 256MB GDDR3[^] for AUD$176.00 but that is AUD$60.00 odd that I can spend on something else. </EDIT>

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                    I'd suggest looking for a comparison review if you haven't already. IIRC the 8600GT is faster than the 2600 series while being comparable in price.

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                                      Got me some money for my birthday and have just puchased some hardware to make me a new computer. The platform choice was made for me by price alone. Purchase 2GB of PC800 RAM at AUD$155.00 and for AUD$10.00 get an AMD X2 4800+ CPU. Throw in another AUD$79.00 and I got an Abit NF-M2SV[^] all in one motherboard. So now I am in the market for a graphics card, budget has narrowed it down to 2 choices. 1 nVIDIA and 1 ATI. I really have no idea what great benefits if any one has over the other. So I will throw it out here and see if anyone has an answer to which is better and why. Hightech ATI HD2600Pro PCI-E 512MB[^] Leadtek Winfast PX8600GT TDH PCI-E 256MB[^] So what choice would you make?

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                      Wow that's a good price for the HD2600. I'm currently running 2 ATI X1600pro 512MB in crossfire mode. Being an avid gamer, I have been very happy with ATI's performance. So, with that said, looking at the prices for the 2600s, I know what I'm spending my christmas money on :)

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                                        Wow that's a good price for the HD2600. I'm currently running 2 ATI X1600pro 512MB in crossfire mode. Being an avid gamer, I have been very happy with ATI's performance. So, with that said, looking at the prices for the 2600s, I know what I'm spending my christmas money on :)

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                                        Performancewise the 2600 series was a major disappointment, you'd do far better stepping up to the 3800 series if you're staying ATI. The 2600 might be OK on a budget if you're only upping to a single card, but a single 3800 would be a better upgrade than xfired 2600's.

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                                          Performancewise the 2600 series was a major disappointment, you'd do far better stepping up to the 3800 series if you're staying ATI. The 2600 might be OK on a budget if you're only upping to a single card, but a single 3800 would be a better upgrade than xfired 2600's.

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                                          Good to know. I generally buy locally and haven't seen any 3800s on the shelves. I'm not in a rush to step up since my 1600s are still doing what they need to do. As of yet, I haven't upgraded to any of the newer games that are requiring horsepower.

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