Sick of MSDN downloads
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Ray Hayes wrote:
It takes weeks for the physical media to be distributed to here!
Because Microsoft comes under so much legal scrutiny these days, the politically correct practice of treating all parties equally becomes a much greater consideration. Consequently, to avoid accusations of favoritism, the download mechanism has been redesigned so that whether you order physical media or obtain it by download, it will take the exact same amount of time. Thus, no one can accuse them of preferential treatment. It's all there in the EULA. You do read the entire EULA word for word, don't you?
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If only MS employed a decent p2p distribution system. Didnt they try something like that already?
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If only MS employed a decent p2p distribution system. Didnt they try something like that already?
At the moment you can only download using their "Top Downloads" section, this forces use of the "Akamai Download Manager". Whilst this seems to be P2P, it doesn't have the same polish as a torrent or something like it. To be honest, it's not the P2P bit that's bothering me - it's the fact that it keeps giving up and telling me I need to restart. In a 3.5GB file, I must have most of the data. Couldn't they slice up the file into chunks, give a checksum for each section and let the download manager restart the broken bits. It might well work that way already - but the interface is SO dumbed down that it's pointless.
Regards, Ray
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leppie wrote:
If only MS employed a decent p2p distribution system. Didnt they try something like that already?
At the moment you can only download using their "Top Downloads" section, this forces use of the "Akamai Download Manager". Whilst this seems to be P2P, it doesn't have the same polish as a torrent or something like it. To be honest, it's not the P2P bit that's bothering me - it's the fact that it keeps giving up and telling me I need to restart. In a 3.5GB file, I must have most of the data. Couldn't they slice up the file into chunks, give a checksum for each section and let the download manager restart the broken bits. It might well work that way already - but the interface is SO dumbed down that it's pointless.
Regards, Ray
Ray Hayes wrote:
At the moment you can only download using their "Top Downloads" section, this forces use of the "Akamai Download Manager". Whilst this seems to be P2P, it doesn't have the same polish as a torrent or something like it.
Actually, a search shows that it isn't p2p but just some heavy duty download service. No idea why I can't just connect directly with a resuming download manager!
Regards, Ray
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Is it just me or are others having problems with Microsoft's download manager for Visual Studio 2008? I've now tried dozens of times, I currently have two seperate downloads (seperate machines and seperate ISP) stuck at 99%. Each time it dies, I have to restart completely. Resume works sometimes, but eventually I get a corruption error. Couldn't Microsoft look into something like PAR2 for 3GB+ files. At least it might be possible to repair corrupted parts. It takes weeks for the physical media to be distributed to here!...
Regards, Ray
Lots of people have been having trouble with that POS downloader. I thought it was just me yesterday, but there's complaints popping up all over now. It took me 3 failed attempts (at 6+ hours each) before I used Firefox and got it in one shot. Mark
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
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Is it just me or are others having problems with Microsoft's download manager for Visual Studio 2008? I've now tried dozens of times, I currently have two seperate downloads (seperate machines and seperate ISP) stuck at 99%. Each time it dies, I have to restart completely. Resume works sometimes, but eventually I get a corruption error. Couldn't Microsoft look into something like PAR2 for 3GB+ files. At least it might be possible to repair corrupted parts. It takes weeks for the physical media to be distributed to here!...
Regards, Ray
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Is it just me or are others having problems with Microsoft's download manager for Visual Studio 2008? I've now tried dozens of times, I currently have two seperate downloads (seperate machines and seperate ISP) stuck at 99%. Each time it dies, I have to restart completely. Resume works sometimes, but eventually I get a corruption error. Couldn't Microsoft look into something like PAR2 for 3GB+ files. At least it might be possible to repair corrupted parts. It takes weeks for the physical media to be distributed to here!...
Regards, Ray
I tried a couple of times today with IE and it kept failing. I then tried it with firefox and it successfully loaded the java version of the download manager. It was at 34% when I left work so hopefully it will have completed successfully by the morning.
Declan Bright www.declanbright.com
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Is it just me or are others having problems with Microsoft's download manager for Visual Studio 2008? I've now tried dozens of times, I currently have two seperate downloads (seperate machines and seperate ISP) stuck at 99%. Each time it dies, I have to restart completely. Resume works sometimes, but eventually I get a corruption error. Couldn't Microsoft look into something like PAR2 for 3GB+ files. At least it might be possible to repair corrupted parts. It takes weeks for the physical media to be distributed to here!...
Regards, Ray
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Is it just me or are others having problems with Microsoft's download manager for Visual Studio 2008? I've now tried dozens of times, I currently have two seperate downloads (seperate machines and seperate ISP) stuck at 99%. Each time it dies, I have to restart completely. Resume works sometimes, but eventually I get a corruption error. Couldn't Microsoft look into something like PAR2 for 3GB+ files. At least it might be possible to repair corrupted parts. It takes weeks for the physical media to be distributed to here!...
Regards, Ray
I ran into the 99% thing too. But I got it to finish by Suspending the download (didn't wait for it to actually suspend), closing the manager, then attempting the download a second time. The Manager restarted with the 1st download suspended, then I resumed the download and it completed in about a minute after that. Canceled the second download only after the 1st package was verified good. I got it downloaded in just over an hour.
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Lots of people have been having trouble with that POS downloader. I thought it was just me yesterday, but there's complaints popping up all over now. It took me 3 failed attempts (at 6+ hours each) before I used Firefox and got it in one shot. Mark
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
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Just tried Firefox and aside from one drop-out of network connectivity, it downloaded and checked itself inside of an hour.
Regards, Ray
Cool. I'm so ashamed I tried IE THREE TIMES :) I don't know what I was thinking... Mark
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
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Lots of people have been having trouble with that POS downloader. I thought it was just me yesterday, but there's complaints popping up all over now. It took me 3 failed attempts (at 6+ hours each) before I used Firefox and got it in one shot. Mark
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
I've always had problems using IE with large (~4GB) downloads. Firefox never has a problem. You'd think in this day and age IE would use something larger than a 32-bit unsigned int for it's downloaded byte counter. I guess IE7 is an improvement though, at least it hangs at 4GB. IE6 would download the file but truncate it to (filesize mod 2^32) bytes and tell you it got the whole thing. IE simply 'nalozhit v bruki', when it comes to very large files.
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