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  • D Declan Bright

    I have VS2003, VS2005 and VS2008, all pro editions and all living happily together.

    Declan Bright www.declanbright.com

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    Gary Wheeler
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    Thanks, Declan. We have been 'stuck' with using VS2003/SP1 for some time now. We're about to start a major new development effort, and I have been pushing the idea of switching directly to VS2008. I would like to install VS2005 and VS2008 on my development box and give them a try before we decide which version to buy another dozen seats for the other guys in my group.


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    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

      Has anyone tried installing them side by side? Are there any incompatibility issues? I specifically mean VS2005 professional and the VS2008 express editions.

      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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      GrinderDev
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      No problems on my end. Make sure you don't open and convert any solutions files that you still plan on using in 2005. :suss:

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      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

        Has anyone tried installing them side by side? Are there any incompatibility issues? I specifically mean VS2005 professional and the VS2008 express editions.

        "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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        Paul Conrad
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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

        Has anyone tried installing them side by side? Are there any incompatibility issues? I specifically mean VS2005 professional and the VS2008 express editions.

        Yes, I have and no problem at all. Only issue I have had is that the components will not drag from the toolbox onto grids ( I suspect this has to do with the machine and not the version of VS being together). The drag-n-drop issue seems to be something I cannot reproduce on my other machines, though.

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        • T toxcct

          why every time Ms releases a new version of Visual Studio or Office, that question of cohabitation comes back ?


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          Paul Conrad
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          toxcct wrote:

          why every time Ms releases a new version of Visual Studio or Office, that question of cohabitation comes back ?

          Maybe people are hesitant in finding out if there are any issues. This is what I use virtual machines for :->

          "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            Because there does exist a problem of cohabitation. On top of that, though nothing would actually happen to my code, I would really hate to sit there for a few hours twiddling my thumbs, waiting for VS205 [currently] to reinstall. So I'd rather play it safe :)

            "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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            Paul Conrad
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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            there does exist a problem of cohabitation

            Like what?

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            • G Gary Wheeler

              Because if you build commercial software, any change to your development environment disrupts the stability of the product you are building. Windows applications that supposedly live side-by-side all too often trample each other's registry settings, file associations, temporary file usage, and so on. All too often the reply from the software author in this case is either a blank stare, or at best "Oops. Sorry about that." To their credit, I've not had problems with running various versions of Visual Studio next to each other. That said, it's still reasonable to ask the question each time they release a new version.


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              Paul Conrad
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              Gary Wheeler wrote:

              All too often the reply from the software author in this case is either a blank stare, or at best "Oops. Sorry about that."

              :laugh::laugh::laugh: I'd hate to see/hear that from someone writing a life-and-death mission critical app :)

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              • P Paul Conrad

                toxcct wrote:

                why every time Ms releases a new version of Visual Studio or Office, that question of cohabitation comes back ?

                Maybe people are hesitant in finding out if there are any issues. This is what I use virtual machines for :->

                "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                toxcct
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                exactly, VMWare rocks :cool:


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                  exactly, VMWare rocks :cool:


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                  Paul Conrad
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                  toxcct wrote:

                  VMWare rocks

                  Sure does, and that reminds me to go and buy a memory upgrade for my laptop next week ( a birthday present to me from me :-D ). I only have 512mb in it right now, and have room to go with a 1gb module to increase it to 1.5gb...

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                  • U uusheikh

                    I have installed both side-by-side. I achieved 20% performance gain on my C++ program when recompiled with VC++ 2008. However, my mixed assembly (C++/CLI & C++) app runs 10x slower! Puzzles me.

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                    realJSOP
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                    You're being punished for straying from the one true path that is managed code.

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                    • P Paul Conrad

                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                      All too often the reply from the software author in this case is either a blank stare, or at best "Oops. Sorry about that."

                      :laugh::laugh::laugh: I'd hate to see/hear that from someone writing a life-and-death mission critical app :)

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      The problem is, the guys writing the compilers and development environments aren't building mission-critical applications. It's like they're making a wrench used to build the Space Shuttle, and every so often one comes off the assembly line made out of styrofoam.


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                      • G Gary Wheeler

                        Thanks, Declan. We have been 'stuck' with using VS2003/SP1 for some time now. We're about to start a major new development effort, and I have been pushing the idea of switching directly to VS2008. I would like to install VS2005 and VS2008 on my development box and give them a try before we decide which version to buy another dozen seats for the other guys in my group.


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                        Declan Bright
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                        You should definitely go for VS2008, one big plus is that you can compile against .Net 2.0 and above so if you don't want to run .Net 3.5 in a production environment yet, you can just build .Net 2.0 apps for the moment.

                        Declan Bright www.declanbright.com

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                        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                          Has anyone tried installing them side by side? Are there any incompatibility issues? I specifically mean VS2005 professional and the VS2008 express editions.

                          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                          Sathesh Sakthivel
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                          I too have VS2003, VS2005 and VS2008, all pro editions and all living happily together. No problem occured so far for me.

                          SSK. Anyone who says sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain.

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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                            This is definitely useful since when we are to frequently use 2005, then we can toggle this path as appropriately

                            Why? So far I've encountered no problems with VS2008 Multi targetting. All of our 2005 projects compile in the same way in 2008.

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                            Michael Sync
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                            Pete O`Hanlon wrote:

                            Why? So far I've encountered no problems with VS2008 Multi targetting. All of our 2005 projects compile in the same way in 2008.

                            We have to use VS 2005 for our real project since we don't have the VS 2008 professional version.. We have Beta but I don't think that we should use it for developing our real projects (because this is just a beta.)

                            Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net)

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                            • S Sathesh Sakthivel

                              I too have VS2003, VS2005 and VS2008, all pro editions and all living happily together. No problem occured so far for me.

                              SSK. Anyone who says sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain.

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                              Pawel Krakowiak
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                              Vri SSK wrote:

                              I too have VS2003, VS2005 and VS2008, all pro editions and all living happily together.

                              The default installation paths differ between each version, right? So I don't have to manually choose a different path to install?

                              Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak Miraculum Software[^]

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