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  • J Jeremy Falcon

    Why don't you just go and have sex and then ask for forgiveness later? Repent and you still get in to heaven. It's in the contract. Worst-case scenario, you can speak with the holy hand about your situation. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
    "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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    Damn right. I learned early that is is far easier to ask fogivness than to get permission :) Richard PS: They did a lot of begatting in the Bible. Wonder how that works :) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger

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      I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.

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      I spent a lot of my younger years as a musician doing the sex, drugs and rock & roll thing. Needless to say, I woke up with a lot of women whose names I couldn't even remember. Somewhere down the line, as I got older and my values changed, I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Now don't get me wrong, I still love sex with beautiful women, but these days if it's not someone I want to wake up and hug the next morning, I'd truly just rather sleep alone. So, the biological urges are definately still there, but because of what I believe in and am holding out for (i.e., good old fashioned, idealistic, romantic love), it's not a hardship. I'm sure you that you will draw similar strength from the power of your own beliefs. Discipline is just a habit. Once established, it's easily maintianed. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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        Martin Marvinski wrote: I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. :confused: Tough ? How , I'm Christian and it's fairly easy, I'm simply myself :-) Martin Marvinski wrote: temptation and sin Well, I known far too many Christians that are worser than atheists ... It's simply a matter of personality :-) Religion doesn't matter ... What's important is your respect for others , for different religions , cultures and so on . What makes you god or mad is your common sense and a good sense of human decency :-) Of course , in personnal terms my belief in God and Jesus Christ makes me stronguer :-) For others is Allah or Buda ... For the atheists is a fact that GOD don't exist at all, and their behaviour is tailored like ours by the values of their society , their laws , family education , friends , school experiences ,etc , but they aren't a bit more worser than us ... aka , 90% of my greatest friends are atheists ... So I'm not seeing your danger of falling in temptation and sin :-) Cheers, Joao Vaz The loved ones never really leave us , they are always alive on our hearts and minds.

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        Joao Vaz wrote: So I'm not seeing your danger of falling in temptation and sin If you say one thing and do another it's hypocrisy. To an extent, we all are hypocrites, but to take it overboard deliberately is just another sign of weakness. If you say premarital sex is wrong and give in because you are horny then you are weak-minded like so many other people. I don't think it's wrong to have sex with a married woman, and guess what - you won't find me saying otherwise. To hell with the act, it's about standing firm for what you believe in. "You either stand for something, or you'll fall for anything." - Unknown Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
        "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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        • M Martin Marvinski

          I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.

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          Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

          More about me :-)

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          • J Jeremy Falcon

            Joao Vaz wrote: So I'm not seeing your danger of falling in temptation and sin If you say one thing and do another it's hypocrisy. To an extent, we all are hypocrites, but to take it overboard deliberately is just another sign of weakness. If you say premarital sex is wrong and give in because you are horny then you are weak-minded like so many other people. I don't think it's wrong to have sex with a married woman, and guess what - you won't find me saying otherwise. To hell with the act, it's about standing firm for what you believe in. "You either stand for something, or you'll fall for anything." - Unknown Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
            "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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            Jeremy Falcon wrote: "You either stand for something, or you'll fall for anything." - Unknown Don't know if he originated it or was just quoting it, but John Cougar Mellencamp had a song with this chorus on his Scarecrow album. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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            • M Martin Marvinski

              Rama Krishna wrote: I thought that you already conquered the urge. Atleast that's what you told. That was at least two weeks ago. Biology gets stronger with each day. I think it is an exponential function because each day seems at least twice as difficult as the previous. Needless to say, my faith has held up so far, but I don't know how long I can last. Hopefully I will meet the woman of my dreams soon.

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              Martin Marvinski wrote: Hopefully I will meet the woman of my dreams soon. Or else the girl of your dreams will have the only pre-requisite of beeing alive Concussus surgo. When struck I rise.

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                Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                More about me :-)

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                It's been a long, long time since I studied Christianity, but over the course of many years I attended a lot of different Protestant / Fundamentalist churches, and that was a consistently recurring theme. Don't recall the biblical justification for it though. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                  I spent a lot of my younger years as a musician doing the sex, drugs and rock & roll thing. Needless to say, I woke up with a lot of women whose names I couldn't even remember. Somewhere down the line, as I got older and my values changed, I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Now don't get me wrong, I still love sex with beautiful women, but these days if it's not someone I want to wake up and hug the next morning, I'd truly just rather sleep alone. So, the biological urges are definately still there, but because of what I believe in and am holding out for (i.e., good old fashioned, idealistic, romantic love), it's not a hardship. I'm sure you that you will draw similar strength from the power of your own beliefs. Discipline is just a habit. Once established, it's easily maintianed. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                  Christopher Duncan wrote: I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Ok, this is where you lost me. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                  "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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                    Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                    More about me :-)

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                    Colin Davies wrote: Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? If you try really hard you can find the notion on just about anything in the Bible...

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                      Rama Krishna wrote: I thought that you already conquered the urge. Atleast that's what you told. That was at least two weeks ago. Biology gets stronger with each day. I think it is an exponential function because each day seems at least twice as difficult as the previous. Needless to say, my faith has held up so far, but I don't know how long I can last. Hopefully I will meet the woman of my dreams soon.

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                      Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                      • M Martin Marvinski

                        I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.

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                        Martin Marvinski wrote: The worst thing is combating biology Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. :)

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                          Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                          More about me :-)

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                          From Masturbation 1:12 "Thou shalt use thine own hand before banging some chick, lest thine one and only dick falleth off." "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote: I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Ok, this is where you lost me. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                            "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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                            Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ok, this is where you lost me. :-D Yeah, I lose a lot of people right about there. It helps to understand my philosophy in life - anything worth doing is worth doing to extremes. The down side of that is the potential for burnout. It was that way with the nameless bimbos that you don't even want to talk to the next morning - do enough of it and it gets old. So, like a junkie always craving the next, more powerful experience, I reached a point where physical alone just wasn't enough. Now a sexy girl and a powerful, soul to soul connection? Hey, that sounds like a rush! Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                              From Masturbation 1:12 "Thou shalt use thine own hand before banging some chick, lest thine one and only dick falleth off." "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                              "...and then, one day, I caught myself with another hand. Never let your left hand know." George Carlin Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                                Joao Vaz wrote: So I'm not seeing your danger of falling in temptation and sin If you say one thing and do another it's hypocrisy. To an extent, we all are hypocrites, but to take it overboard deliberately is just another sign of weakness. If you say premarital sex is wrong and give in because you are horny then you are weak-minded like so many other people. I don't think it's wrong to have sex with a married woman, and guess what - you won't find me saying otherwise. To hell with the act, it's about standing firm for what you believe in. "You either stand for something, or you'll fall for anything." - Unknown Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                                "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote: I don't think it's wrong to have sex with a married woman I don't agree with you on this , but I also don't agree to sleep with other's girlfriend even her boyfriend is a jackass. This is one ideal of mine , not a religious one. It's me as a person and not as a Christian. Jeremy Falcon wrote: It's about standing firm for what you believe in. This is what I call a democracy and I don't have anything against it ... but if you had slept with my wife , well ... it's entirely another subject ;P Cheers, Joao Vaz The loved ones never really leave us , they are always alive on our hearts and minds.

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                                  Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote: Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! Thats what an italian car does for you. :cool:

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                                    Christopher Duncan wrote: Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! Thats what an italian car does for you. :cool:

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                                    Martin Marvinski wrote: Thats what an italian car does for you. Damn! I'm clearly not charging enough for my coding! :) Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                                      Martin Marvinski wrote: The worst thing is combating biology Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. :)

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                                      loket wrote: Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life.

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                                        loket wrote: Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life.

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                                        Yes, you amish people dont need much stuff. Trade it in for a real horse instead. :)

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                                          loket wrote: Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life.

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                                          Martin Marvinski wrote: I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life. You know, charity would make that simpler life much more fulfilling. Can I send you my address? :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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