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  • C ColinDavies

    Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

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    More about me :-)

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    It's been a long, long time since I studied Christianity, but over the course of many years I attended a lot of different Protestant / Fundamentalist churches, and that was a consistently recurring theme. Don't recall the biblical justification for it though. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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      I spent a lot of my younger years as a musician doing the sex, drugs and rock & roll thing. Needless to say, I woke up with a lot of women whose names I couldn't even remember. Somewhere down the line, as I got older and my values changed, I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Now don't get me wrong, I still love sex with beautiful women, but these days if it's not someone I want to wake up and hug the next morning, I'd truly just rather sleep alone. So, the biological urges are definately still there, but because of what I believe in and am holding out for (i.e., good old fashioned, idealistic, romantic love), it's not a hardship. I'm sure you that you will draw similar strength from the power of your own beliefs. Discipline is just a habit. Once established, it's easily maintianed. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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      Christopher Duncan wrote: I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Ok, this is where you lost me. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
      "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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      • C ColinDavies

        Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

        More about me :-)

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        Colin Davies wrote: Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? If you try really hard you can find the notion on just about anything in the Bible...

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        • M Martin Marvinski

          Rama Krishna wrote: I thought that you already conquered the urge. Atleast that's what you told. That was at least two weeks ago. Biology gets stronger with each day. I think it is an exponential function because each day seems at least twice as difficult as the previous. Needless to say, my faith has held up so far, but I don't know how long I can last. Hopefully I will meet the woman of my dreams soon.

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          Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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            I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.

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            Martin Marvinski wrote: The worst thing is combating biology Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. :)

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            • C ColinDavies

              Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

              Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

              More about me :-)

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              From Masturbation 1:12 "Thou shalt use thine own hand before banging some chick, lest thine one and only dick falleth off." "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                Christopher Duncan wrote: I reached a point where sex without an emotional connection was an empty experience for me. Ok, this is where you lost me. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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                Jeremy Falcon wrote: Ok, this is where you lost me. :-D Yeah, I lose a lot of people right about there. It helps to understand my philosophy in life - anything worth doing is worth doing to extremes. The down side of that is the potential for burnout. It was that way with the nameless bimbos that you don't even want to talk to the next morning - do enough of it and it gets old. So, like a junkie always craving the next, more powerful experience, I reached a point where physical alone just wasn't enough. Now a sexy girl and a powerful, soul to soul connection? Hey, that sounds like a rush! Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                  From Masturbation 1:12 "Thou shalt use thine own hand before banging some chick, lest thine one and only dick falleth off." "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio.

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                  "...and then, one day, I caught myself with another hand. Never let your left hand know." George Carlin Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                    Joao Vaz wrote: So I'm not seeing your danger of falling in temptation and sin If you say one thing and do another it's hypocrisy. To an extent, we all are hypocrites, but to take it overboard deliberately is just another sign of weakness. If you say premarital sex is wrong and give in because you are horny then you are weak-minded like so many other people. I don't think it's wrong to have sex with a married woman, and guess what - you won't find me saying otherwise. To hell with the act, it's about standing firm for what you believe in. "You either stand for something, or you'll fall for anything." - Unknown Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                    "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote: I don't think it's wrong to have sex with a married woman I don't agree with you on this , but I also don't agree to sleep with other's girlfriend even her boyfriend is a jackass. This is one ideal of mine , not a religious one. It's me as a person and not as a Christian. Jeremy Falcon wrote: It's about standing firm for what you believe in. This is what I call a democracy and I don't have anything against it ... but if you had slept with my wife , well ... it's entirely another subject ;P Cheers, Joao Vaz The loved ones never really leave us , they are always alive on our hearts and minds.

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                      Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                      Christopher Duncan wrote: Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! Thats what an italian car does for you. :cool:

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                        Christopher Duncan wrote: Of course, I just gotta add that if you're encountering so many biological opportunities that it's a constant strain, I'm sure you're the envy of most of the guys here! Thats what an italian car does for you. :cool:

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                        Martin Marvinski wrote: Thats what an italian car does for you. Damn! I'm clearly not charging enough for my coding! :) Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                          Martin Marvinski wrote: The worst thing is combating biology Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. :)

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                          loket wrote: Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life.

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                            loket wrote: Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life.

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                            Yes, you amish people dont need much stuff. Trade it in for a real horse instead. :)

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                            • M Martin Marvinski

                              loket wrote: Your new car with the nice horsy thingy on was money down the drain then. I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life.

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                              Martin Marvinski wrote: I'm probably going to sell it. I'm going to live a more simpler life. You know, charity would make that simpler life much more fulfilling. Can I send you my address? :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                                You gotta love those religions where you can choose and pick whatever you need out of it and forget the rest. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                                "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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                                Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                I "cannot choose" whatever I need, of course. I am merely stating that no mortal is perfect, and that's just the way it is. Anyway, too many people overestimate the importance of sex. It is much more important to refrain from murder, violence, theft, ... than from premarital sex. But of course, there are always some horny young fellas that will say "I am horny, so I won't believe in God, because He forbids premarital sex" ;P I vote pro drink :beer:

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                                  It's been a long, long time since I studied Christianity, but over the course of many years I attended a lot of different Protestant / Fundamentalist churches, and that was a consistently recurring theme. Don't recall the biblical justification for it though. Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote: Don't recall the biblical justification for it though. The only real thing is the commandment "Thou shalt not commit adultery". I can quote you in the bible where it is against celibacy Starting in Genesis 2:18 and through, Marriage is considered honourable in many places as well. And the use of the verb "to fornicate" has several different translations. But I do not believe anywhere in all the Canons including the Ethiopian ones is it said "that a young hetrosexual couple" must remain chaste and pure. I seriously wonder about "churches" that preach stuff that can not be found clearly in the bible. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                                    Where exactly in the Bible are you getting the notion that you can not have premarital sex with a female ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                    More about me :-)

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                                    IIRC someone said that it was because sex should only take place between husband and wife to procreate (sp?). James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus

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                                      IIRC someone said that it was because sex should only take place between husband and wife to procreate (sp?). James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus

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                                      James T. Johnson wrote: IIRC someone said that it was because sex should only take place between husband and wife to procreate (sp?). Yes, I guess that is what you have been told. :-) But I'd say even 2000 years ago shotgun weddings were the norm, possibly they used a slingshot and clubs then. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                                      • M Martin Marvinski

                                        I've been a Christian for about a month now and I must say it is tough. The worst thing is combating biology, and I must say I understand why most Christians get married fairly young. I do like my nightly Bible study, and I am trying to learn as much as possible. Hopefully this will give me the strength to avoid temptation and sin.

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                                        Nnamdi Onyeyiri
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                                        ive been a christian all my life and you sound more a christian than i do. but thats cos they force you to learn it all, and at GCSE, they make u learn mark's gospel, some hindu (i think) religious beliefs, and for some reason abortion and contraception.


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                                          I "cannot choose" whatever I need, of course. I am merely stating that no mortal is perfect, and that's just the way it is. Anyway, too many people overestimate the importance of sex. It is much more important to refrain from murder, violence, theft, ... than from premarital sex. But of course, there are always some horny young fellas that will say "I am horny, so I won't believe in God, because He forbids premarital sex" ;P I vote pro drink :beer:

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                                          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: It is much more important to refrain from murder, violence, theft, ... than from premarital sex. This I do agree with. Personally, I don't see the harm in two people helping each other feel good. :) Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
                                          "But everybody darlin' sometimes bites the hand that feeds." "Remember in this game we call life that no one said it's fair." "Just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." Song: Breakdown - Album: Use Your Illusion II - Artist: Guns N' Roses

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