Tools - some advice please
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I belive NDoc is no longer updated and has been replaced with Sandcastle (free). Resharper is nice but I ran into some performance problems with it and uninstalled it (inexpensive). We use CruiseControl.NET and NAnt for build automation (free). Most projects I've used integrate NUnit (free). log4net is a good logging library (free). What about bug tracking? We use TestTrack but it gets expensive. I've never used BugZilla but I hear it recommended often. Use the rest of the money to buy everyone big phat dual monitors.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
Use the rest of the money to buy everyone big phat dual monitors.
I wouldn't mind a bump up to quadruple monitors. :rolleyes:
This blanket smells like ham
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If you had $26k to spend on your dev team (12 devs) where would you spend it? We've got decent hardware & won't be moving to VS2008 next year. We don't care about any GUI tools as our business is completely service based. We're looking for tools that'll help us with • Code Optimisation/Refactoring • Productivity • Testing (we currently use NUnit) • Build Automation • Code Documentation We've been looking at tools like the ANTS profiler, JetBrains ReSharper, FxCop, NDoc, Sandcastle, etc. & will be evaluating most of these over our code freeze period to see what we find most suitable to us. Still, I'd like to hear what others experiences with these tools were & if they could make any recommendations (even if it's a recommendation to avoid a certain product!) This isn't about spending money just for the sake of spending - we're looking for maximum gain for our team within the budget we have. Any suggestions? Opinions?
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Because programming is an art, not a science. Marc CliftonPick some categories and have your team go out and do some research on their own. If you want tools that have a chance of getting used, personal choice is important. I like dotTrace for a profiler, and I like code historian for viewing source history as well.
This blanket smells like ham
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If you had $26k to spend on your dev team (12 devs) where would you spend it? We've got decent hardware & won't be moving to VS2008 next year. We don't care about any GUI tools as our business is completely service based. We're looking for tools that'll help us with • Code Optimisation/Refactoring • Productivity • Testing (we currently use NUnit) • Build Automation • Code Documentation We've been looking at tools like the ANTS profiler, JetBrains ReSharper, FxCop, NDoc, Sandcastle, etc. & will be evaluating most of these over our code freeze period to see what we find most suitable to us. Still, I'd like to hear what others experiences with these tools were & if they could make any recommendations (even if it's a recommendation to avoid a certain product!) This isn't about spending money just for the sake of spending - we're looking for maximum gain for our team within the budget we have. Any suggestions? Opinions?
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Because programming is an art, not a science. Marc CliftonResharper from JetBrains, I love it.
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And some non-cubicle types.
My head asplode!
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$26k would buy a lot of beer
:beer: Always an excellent choice :D
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Todd Smith wrote:
Use the rest of the money to buy everyone big phat dual monitors.
I wouldn't mind a bump up to quadruple monitors. :rolleyes:
This blanket smells like ham
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If you had $26k to spend on your dev team (12 devs) where would you spend it? We've got decent hardware & won't be moving to VS2008 next year. We don't care about any GUI tools as our business is completely service based. We're looking for tools that'll help us with • Code Optimisation/Refactoring • Productivity • Testing (we currently use NUnit) • Build Automation • Code Documentation We've been looking at tools like the ANTS profiler, JetBrains ReSharper, FxCop, NDoc, Sandcastle, etc. & will be evaluating most of these over our code freeze period to see what we find most suitable to us. Still, I'd like to hear what others experiences with these tools were & if they could make any recommendations (even if it's a recommendation to avoid a certain product!) This isn't about spending money just for the sake of spending - we're looking for maximum gain for our team within the budget we have. Any suggestions? Opinions?
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Because programming is an art, not a science. Marc CliftonHire a code monkey to do all the boring/trivial work :)
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If you had $26k to spend on your dev team (12 devs) where would you spend it? We've got decent hardware & won't be moving to VS2008 next year. We don't care about any GUI tools as our business is completely service based. We're looking for tools that'll help us with • Code Optimisation/Refactoring • Productivity • Testing (we currently use NUnit) • Build Automation • Code Documentation We've been looking at tools like the ANTS profiler, JetBrains ReSharper, FxCop, NDoc, Sandcastle, etc. & will be evaluating most of these over our code freeze period to see what we find most suitable to us. Still, I'd like to hear what others experiences with these tools were & if they could make any recommendations (even if it's a recommendation to avoid a certain product!) This isn't about spending money just for the sake of spending - we're looking for maximum gain for our team within the budget we have. Any suggestions? Opinions?
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Because programming is an art, not a science. Marc CliftonTake them to Jamaica and !YES! I am serious. It will be the single biggest investment you make in your team and the ROI will be huge. I'm not joking at all. Do it! Hire me first though...
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If you had $26k to spend on your dev team (12 devs) where would you spend it? We've got decent hardware & won't be moving to VS2008 next year. We don't care about any GUI tools as our business is completely service based. We're looking for tools that'll help us with • Code Optimisation/Refactoring • Productivity • Testing (we currently use NUnit) • Build Automation • Code Documentation We've been looking at tools like the ANTS profiler, JetBrains ReSharper, FxCop, NDoc, Sandcastle, etc. & will be evaluating most of these over our code freeze period to see what we find most suitable to us. Still, I'd like to hear what others experiences with these tools were & if they could make any recommendations (even if it's a recommendation to avoid a certain product!) This isn't about spending money just for the sake of spending - we're looking for maximum gain for our team within the budget we have. Any suggestions? Opinions?
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Because programming is an art, not a science. Marc CliftonCompany day out at a day-spa. :cool:
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I can't even remember what it's like to program on a single monitor anymore. 3 is definitely the minimum everybody should have. I'm sure i could find a use for a 4th also.
More screen space is never a bad thing, but I've grown quite used to my 17 inch Dell Inspiron screen. I guess I'm biased toward mobility since I've been gallivanting around.
Daniel Vaughan
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Resharper from JetBrains, I love it.
I concur. I can't imagine being without it now. In fact I'm starting to go bananas with the lack of support for .NET 3.5. Perhaps I'm too dependent on it. When I sit down at somebody else's computer, and they don't have Resharper, I find I'm dead in the water.
Daniel Vaughan
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My first real C# project | Linkify!|[">FoldWithUs!](http://tinyurl.com/37q6tt<br mode=) | sighistGreat link - thanks. We weigh in with a score of 10 but that's because it's impossible for us to do a daily build/build in one step as our product is made up of a few different solutions which each require their own build (albeit each of these build in one step). Our core solution is currently made up of just under 400 projects so doing a daily build is just not feasible - we have a fortnightly build.
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Because programming is an art, not a science. Marc Clifton -
Great link - thanks. We weigh in with a score of 10 but that's because it's impossible for us to do a daily build/build in one step as our product is made up of a few different solutions which each require their own build (albeit each of these build in one step). Our core solution is currently made up of just under 400 projects so doing a daily build is just not feasible - we have a fortnightly build.
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Because programming is an art, not a science. Marc CliftonWell, on my scale, 10 is escellent, 11 is fake, and 12 is Joel fanboy :) Another thing that you might like: distributing builds over multiple machines[^] You have a team large enough that it could make a difference for you. I have no experience with their product, but if you try it, I'd love to hear feedback.
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