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    Kuryn
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    I was wondering which language would be best to go for? C or C++ or C#. I don't have a problem learning either language. But I'm necessary have the hard option of picking one or the other. And I wonder which one would be better to go for. I have knowledge in both languages.

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      I was wondering which language would be best to go for? C or C++ or C#. I don't have a problem learning either language. But I'm necessary have the hard option of picking one or the other. And I wonder which one would be better to go for. I have knowledge in both languages.

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      El Corazon
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      Kuryn wrote:

      I was wondering which language would be best to go for? C++ or C#.

      what industry do you want to work in? Seriously. Do you want engineering style programming, interfacing to hardware or Business computer Science?

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        Kuryn wrote:

        I was wondering which language would be best to go for? C++ or C#.

        what industry do you want to work in? Seriously. Do you want engineering style programming, interfacing to hardware or Business computer Science?

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        im not sure what you actually mean *feels n00bish*

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          I was wondering which language would be best to go for? C or C++ or C#. I don't have a problem learning either language. But I'm necessary have the hard option of picking one or the other. And I wonder which one would be better to go for. I have knowledge in both languages.

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          M dHatter
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          How about assembly? Then write your own language. :-D

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            How about assembly? Then write your own language. :-D

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            Tried learning assembly, gave me a headache trying to figure out which one to pick and looking for decent tutorials. And more so complicated writing xD

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              im not sure what you actually mean *feels n00bish*

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              Colin Angus Mackay
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              If you want to write software for companies (businesses) to help them with their business processes then C# is the way forward. If you want to write software the communicates with hardware then C++ is the way forward. So the question is: What sort of software do you want to write? Or What sort of software do you think you will get a job writing?

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                im not sure what you actually mean *feels n00bish*

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                simple : What do you want to do ? what is you field of interest ? You want to do payroll in banks ? You want to do games ? You want to do engineering stuff ? You want to do hardware interfaces ? You want to do graphic things ? You want to do scientific applications ? ... Decide, then do a bit of research to see what languages they use and decide from that point.

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                  If you want to write software for companies (businesses) to help them with their business processes then C# is the way forward. If you want to write software the communicates with hardware then C++ is the way forward. So the question is: What sort of software do you want to write? Or What sort of software do you think you will get a job writing?

                  Upcoming FREE developer events: * Developer Day Scotland Recent blog posts: * Follow up on hiring a software developer * Aarrgghh!! Accidentally pressing the Caps Lock key My website | blog

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                  I would love to do video game programming. And it be nice to actually do hardware and desktop. I have done some COM programming. I've done a basic console of MSN connecting to the server and signed on to it.

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                    simple : What do you want to do ? what is you field of interest ? You want to do payroll in banks ? You want to do games ? You want to do engineering stuff ? You want to do hardware interfaces ? You want to do graphic things ? You want to do scientific applications ? ... Decide, then do a bit of research to see what languages they use and decide from that point.

                    Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                    Everything except scientific applications. Cause I'm not that well know with the major elite math knowledge. Since I've dropped out of high school and only have my ged. And don't have a degree in Computer Science.

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                      Tried learning assembly, gave me a headache trying to figure out which one to pick and looking for decent tutorials. And more so complicated writing xD

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                      Title..............Military Rank...........Pay Rate(annual).......Learning Curve -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Assembler..........General.................$140,000+..............3 years+ C / Java...........Colonel.................$100,000+..............2 Years+ C++................Lieutenant Colonel......$70,000+...............2 Years+ C#.................Major...................$50,000+...............1 Year+ VB.................Private - HEHE..........$FREE+.................1 Month -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also learning one language will help to speed up learning curve for other languages. :laugh:

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                        I was wondering which language would be best to go for? C or C++ or C#. I don't have a problem learning either language. But I'm necessary have the hard option of picking one or the other. And I wonder which one would be better to go for. I have knowledge in both languages.

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                        Go with the one you are happiest with i.e. follow your bliss. Programming is a bit like playing guitar - there are lots of styles folk, rock, blues, classical ... (I chose classical). Choose what you enjoy and take it from there. Things change so fast in the world of IT that today C# may be the language of choice and in two years it may be KlingonCode. In the end it is best learning how to code well rather than knowing any one particular language.

                        You always pass failure on the way to success.
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                          Go with the one you are happiest with i.e. follow your bliss. Programming is a bit like playing guitar - there are lots of styles folk, rock, blues, classical ... (I chose classical). Choose what you enjoy and take it from there. Things change so fast in the world of IT that today C# may be the language of choice and in two years it may be KlingonCode. In the end it is best learning how to code well rather than knowing any one particular language.

                          You always pass failure on the way to success.
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                          soap brain
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                          GuyThiebaut wrote:

                          in two years it may be KlingonCode.

                          Fingers crossed!

                          "We were backstage, playing Monopoly. Totally forgot there was a show, so sorry we are late." - Maynard James Keenan

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                            Go with the one you are happiest with i.e. follow your bliss. Programming is a bit like playing guitar - there are lots of styles folk, rock, blues, classical ... (I chose classical). Choose what you enjoy and take it from there. Things change so fast in the world of IT that today C# may be the language of choice and in two years it may be KlingonCode. In the end it is best learning how to code well rather than knowing any one particular language.

                            You always pass failure on the way to success.
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                            GuyThiebaut wrote:

                            Things change so fast in the world of IT that today C# may be the language of choice and in two years it may be KlingonCode.

                            You watch too much star trek :laugh: We all know Romalin code is better :P

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                              GuyThiebaut wrote:

                              Things change so fast in the world of IT that today C# may be the language of choice and in two years it may be KlingonCode.

                              You watch too much star trek :laugh: We all know Romalin code is better :P

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                              We all know Romalin code is better

                              Nah - Klingon will kick the **** out of Romalin anyday - the Romalin IDE is a Microsoft product whereas the Klingon IDE is Klinux open-source and free! :-D

                              You always pass failure on the way to success.
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                                VectorX wrote:

                                We all know Romalin code is better

                                Nah - Klingon will kick the **** out of Romalin anyday - the Romalin IDE is a Microsoft product whereas the Klingon IDE is Klinux open-source and free! :-D

                                You always pass failure on the way to success.
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                                I thought microsoft was federation code :confused:

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                                  Everything except scientific applications. Cause I'm not that well know with the major elite math knowledge. Since I've dropped out of high school and only have my ged. And don't have a degree in Computer Science.

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                                  Kuryn wrote:

                                  Everything except scientific applications. Cause I'm not that well know with the major elite math knowledge. Since I've dropped out of high school and only have my ged. And don't have a degree in Computer Science.

                                  That is not a direct translation of action, reaction. If you don't want to do this, that is fine. But it is all up to you and what you are willing to do to get the job. Sure it is harder to do the more computational jobs with a lack of education, but not impossible. So the question is again, What do YOU want to do. I read above that you would like to write games, is that the only thing you really enjoy writing? Is there a road to get there from where you are? I have a high school diploma, graduated 12th in my class of 238, nothing spectacular, but pretty decent. I dropped out of college for various reasons, the largest was political with the school, but my home and personal life was hell. I needed a change. The only road out that was offered to me was business computers science. I took the path, with full knowledge I didn't want to stay there. I learned ledgers and payrolls and receivables. I can do double entry accounting and I could write a full payroll system complete with w2 magnetic media reporting for the federal government. But I didn't want to stay there. I made my own road, I paved it through hard work and determination. Now I do C++/C programming for a major contracting firm, I interface to hardware, remote control vehicles, specialize in telepresence and virtual reality. Some of my algorithms are standards for VR work since the 1990's. Several more are becoming standards now, especially in areas of augmented reality (hybrid live video and virtual reality). I give presentations occasionally around the USA in areas of unmanned aerial vehicle controls, to parallel computation. But I never went back for a degree. Some will look at me as a college drop-out, others as an industry leader. I am neither. I am simply paving my own road through life to do what I want to do. I took a D three times in Calculus in college, and an F in physics. I'll give you three guesses what I do now in my virtual worlds. :-D No matter your past, you still make your future. Sure it is hard. I've done grunt work, I've paid my dues in hours and horrible ex-bosses. But I kept in mind what I wanted to do. You can do the same, but it is a LOT of hard work. So the question comes down, what do YOU want to do? Then pave your ow

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                                    Kuryn wrote:

                                    Everything except scientific applications. Cause I'm not that well know with the major elite math knowledge. Since I've dropped out of high school and only have my ged. And don't have a degree in Computer Science.

                                    That is not a direct translation of action, reaction. If you don't want to do this, that is fine. But it is all up to you and what you are willing to do to get the job. Sure it is harder to do the more computational jobs with a lack of education, but not impossible. So the question is again, What do YOU want to do. I read above that you would like to write games, is that the only thing you really enjoy writing? Is there a road to get there from where you are? I have a high school diploma, graduated 12th in my class of 238, nothing spectacular, but pretty decent. I dropped out of college for various reasons, the largest was political with the school, but my home and personal life was hell. I needed a change. The only road out that was offered to me was business computers science. I took the path, with full knowledge I didn't want to stay there. I learned ledgers and payrolls and receivables. I can do double entry accounting and I could write a full payroll system complete with w2 magnetic media reporting for the federal government. But I didn't want to stay there. I made my own road, I paved it through hard work and determination. Now I do C++/C programming for a major contracting firm, I interface to hardware, remote control vehicles, specialize in telepresence and virtual reality. Some of my algorithms are standards for VR work since the 1990's. Several more are becoming standards now, especially in areas of augmented reality (hybrid live video and virtual reality). I give presentations occasionally around the USA in areas of unmanned aerial vehicle controls, to parallel computation. But I never went back for a degree. Some will look at me as a college drop-out, others as an industry leader. I am neither. I am simply paving my own road through life to do what I want to do. I took a D three times in Calculus in college, and an F in physics. I'll give you three guesses what I do now in my virtual worlds. :-D No matter your past, you still make your future. Sure it is hard. I've done grunt work, I've paid my dues in hours and horrible ex-bosses. But I kept in mind what I wanted to do. You can do the same, but it is a LOT of hard work. So the question comes down, what do YOU want to do? Then pave your ow

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                                    The only thing I worry is if they would accept me after learning and knowing a certain language from yers from now. And the only problem, that really hinders my stability of a programmer is the lack of imagination to picking which type of program to make, etc...

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                                      I was wondering which language would be best to go for? C or C++ or C#. I don't have a problem learning either language. But I'm necessary have the hard option of picking one or the other. And I wonder which one would be better to go for. I have knowledge in both languages.

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                                      The best answer I can give is "Let the project decide." The reason for that is if you try to use some assembly variant for user interface programming, it will take you longer than if you use some interpreted language such as a .Net based language. On the other hand, if you are writing specifically timed device interface source, then assembly is the way to go. C is a useful alternate for underjust less than real time processes, C++ will aid in understanding object oriented programming and is quite useful for interfacing with drivers and doing business logic. I would not use C++ for time critical operations. C# is quite useful for user interface logic. I would not use C# for time critical or software or even middle ware that requires a quick response. As others have said, learning one will aid with the others, but as any professional will note that has had experience with all of those languages, it's the libraries that one will take the longest to learn.

                                      Phil

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                                        I thought microsoft was federation code :confused:

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                                        GuyThiebaut
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                                        VectorX wrote:

                                        I thought microsoft was federation code

                                        That's the beauty of it though. M$ gets to collect all the royalties from the enemy and also gets to control the enemy by deliberately allowing massive bugs to be included in the IDE. On top of this the M$ IDE logs all the keystrokes and returns the data to M$ incorp. when it crashes through the error messaging system.

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                                          Kuryn wrote:

                                          Everything except scientific applications. Cause I'm not that well know with the major elite math knowledge. Since I've dropped out of high school and only have my ged. And don't have a degree in Computer Science.

                                          That is not a direct translation of action, reaction. If you don't want to do this, that is fine. But it is all up to you and what you are willing to do to get the job. Sure it is harder to do the more computational jobs with a lack of education, but not impossible. So the question is again, What do YOU want to do. I read above that you would like to write games, is that the only thing you really enjoy writing? Is there a road to get there from where you are? I have a high school diploma, graduated 12th in my class of 238, nothing spectacular, but pretty decent. I dropped out of college for various reasons, the largest was political with the school, but my home and personal life was hell. I needed a change. The only road out that was offered to me was business computers science. I took the path, with full knowledge I didn't want to stay there. I learned ledgers and payrolls and receivables. I can do double entry accounting and I could write a full payroll system complete with w2 magnetic media reporting for the federal government. But I didn't want to stay there. I made my own road, I paved it through hard work and determination. Now I do C++/C programming for a major contracting firm, I interface to hardware, remote control vehicles, specialize in telepresence and virtual reality. Some of my algorithms are standards for VR work since the 1990's. Several more are becoming standards now, especially in areas of augmented reality (hybrid live video and virtual reality). I give presentations occasionally around the USA in areas of unmanned aerial vehicle controls, to parallel computation. But I never went back for a degree. Some will look at me as a college drop-out, others as an industry leader. I am neither. I am simply paving my own road through life to do what I want to do. I took a D three times in Calculus in college, and an F in physics. I'll give you three guesses what I do now in my virtual worlds. :-D No matter your past, you still make your future. Sure it is hard. I've done grunt work, I've paid my dues in hours and horrible ex-bosses. But I kept in mind what I wanted to do. You can do the same, but it is a LOT of hard work. So the question comes down, what do YOU want to do? Then pave your ow

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                                          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                          Wow, El. I have to say, bravo. A true inspiration of hard work. I salute you sir. :thirteen gun salute:

                                          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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