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  • I Ismail Durmaz

    although i am using .net c++, i want to run application while .net framework isn't installed on the another machine. anyone knows, is it possible? thanks.

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    When you create the project, choose a Win32 application type. :)

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      When you create the project, choose a Win32 application type. :)

      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
      [my articles]

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      i tried and tested however it couldn't run. i changed framework configuration but not run agin. is it necessary to change any configuration?

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      • I Ismail Durmaz

        although i am using .net c++, i want to run application while .net framework isn't installed on the another machine. anyone knows, is it possible? thanks.

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        Any app you create with the .net framework is going to need the framework runtime. No way around that.

        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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          Any app you create with the .net framework is going to need the framework runtime. No way around that.

          "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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          i think, visual studio 6 isn't capable platform, do you recommend any platform or add-ins or plugins etc.?

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          • I Ismail Durmaz

            i tried and tested however it couldn't run. i changed framework configuration but not run agin. is it necessary to change any configuration?

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            darkonoid wrote:

            i tried and tested however it couldn't run. i changed framework configuration but not run agin. is it necessary to change any configuration?

            You have to build a win32 unmanaged application, i.e. a native application, that doesn't need the framework at all. With C++ you can do this: On Visual Studio IDE, choose menu item File->New->Project and then, on the newly appeared window, for instance, Win32 project (or one using MFC ). :)

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
            [my articles]

            In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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              darkonoid wrote:

              i tried and tested however it couldn't run. i changed framework configuration but not run agin. is it necessary to change any configuration?

              You have to build a win32 unmanaged application, i.e. a native application, that doesn't need the framework at all. With C++ you can do this: On Visual Studio IDE, choose menu item File->New->Project and then, on the newly appeared window, for instance, Win32 project (or one using MFC ). :)

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              [my articles]

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              i see what you mention, but it doesn't work, that you tell

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              • I Ismail Durmaz

                i think, visual studio 6 isn't capable platform, do you recommend any platform or add-ins or plugins etc.?

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                darkonoid wrote:

                visual studio 6

                You never mentioned it before. Yes, VS 6 is not capable.

                darkonoid wrote:

                you recommend any platform

                Yes, make the move to VS 2005/2008.

                "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                  darkonoid wrote:

                  visual studio 6

                  You never mentioned it before. Yes, VS 6 is not capable.

                  darkonoid wrote:

                  you recommend any platform

                  Yes, make the move to VS 2005/2008.

                  "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                  :) how can i run applications any other windows versions, without .net framework

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                  • I Ismail Durmaz

                    :) how can i run applications any other windows versions, without .net framework

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                    What is it you are trying to do? Are you trying to develop .net apps to run on any version of windows?

                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      What is it you are trying to do? Are you trying to develop .net apps to run on any version of windows?

                      "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

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                      • I Ismail Durmaz

                        i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

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                        darkonoid wrote:

                        i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

                        Like I already said earlier. You will need the .net framework installed in order for the apps to work, no real way around it. There are commercial products out there that for the money, just end up encapsulating the .net framework in the .exe. It is really not worth the money. Bear in mind that the .net framework runtime will not work on windows versions older than Windows 98. I hope this answers your question.

                        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                          darkonoid wrote:

                          i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

                          Like I already said earlier. You will need the .net framework installed in order for the apps to work, no real way around it. There are commercial products out there that for the money, just end up encapsulating the .net framework in the .exe. It is really not worth the money. Bear in mind that the .net framework runtime will not work on windows versions older than Windows 98. I hope this answers your question.

                          "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                          ok brother, do you recommend any platform for developing application?

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                          • I Ismail Durmaz

                            ok brother, do you recommend any platform for developing application?

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                            I already told you, if you are going down the .net road, use VS 2005 or 2008.

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                              I already told you, if you are going down the .net road, use VS 2005 or 2008.

                              "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                              :) no, no i don't want to use .net :D

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                              • I Ismail Durmaz

                                :) no, no i don't want to use .net :D

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                                With the Standard edition of VS2005/2008, you can do native code using Win32 as well.

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                                • I Ismail Durmaz

                                  although i am using .net c++, i want to run application while .net framework isn't installed on the another machine. anyone knows, is it possible? thanks.

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                                  darkonoid wrote:

                                  i am using .net c++

                                  You just told me you don't want to use .net. Here you are saying you are using it. Make up your mind, then.

                                  "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                    With the Standard edition of VS2005/2008, you can do native code using Win32 as well.

                                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                    ok thanks

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                                      darkonoid wrote:

                                      i am using .net c++

                                      You just told me you don't want to use .net. Here you are saying you are using it. Make up your mind, then.

                                      "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                      i use vs2005 platform because environment is capable, but when i run the executable file, it should not related with .net framework. when i say .net platform, i mention visual studio 2005/2008

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                                      • I Ismail Durmaz

                                        i use vs2005 platform because environment is capable, but when i run the executable file, it should not related with .net framework. when i say .net platform, i mention visual studio 2005/2008

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                                        What kind of project are you creating? If you are creating .net projects, then you are stuck with the framework. If you don't want to use the framework, then go with MFC.

                                        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                          What kind of project are you creating? If you are creating .net projects, then you are stuck with the framework. If you don't want to use the framework, then go with MFC.

                                          "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                          i create mfc applications on visual studio 6.0, but i want to create more quickly and easily. so i use visual studio 2005, however mfc applications needs .net framework on any machines

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