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  • P Paul Conrad

    darkonoid wrote:

    visual studio 6

    You never mentioned it before. Yes, VS 6 is not capable.

    darkonoid wrote:

    you recommend any platform

    Yes, make the move to VS 2005/2008.

    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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    Ismail Durmaz
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    :) how can i run applications any other windows versions, without .net framework

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    • I Ismail Durmaz

      :) how can i run applications any other windows versions, without .net framework

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      Paul Conrad
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      What is it you are trying to do? Are you trying to develop .net apps to run on any version of windows?

      "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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      • P Paul Conrad

        What is it you are trying to do? Are you trying to develop .net apps to run on any version of windows?

        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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        i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

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        • I Ismail Durmaz

          i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

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          Paul Conrad
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          darkonoid wrote:

          i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

          Like I already said earlier. You will need the .net framework installed in order for the apps to work, no real way around it. There are commercial products out there that for the money, just end up encapsulating the .net framework in the .exe. It is really not worth the money. Bear in mind that the .net framework runtime will not work on windows versions older than Windows 98. I hope this answers your question.

          "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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          • P Paul Conrad

            darkonoid wrote:

            i want to use .net platform but my applications can be run windows that isn't installed .net framework

            Like I already said earlier. You will need the .net framework installed in order for the apps to work, no real way around it. There are commercial products out there that for the money, just end up encapsulating the .net framework in the .exe. It is really not worth the money. Bear in mind that the .net framework runtime will not work on windows versions older than Windows 98. I hope this answers your question.

            "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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            Ismail Durmaz
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            ok brother, do you recommend any platform for developing application?

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            • I Ismail Durmaz

              ok brother, do you recommend any platform for developing application?

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              Paul Conrad
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              I already told you, if you are going down the .net road, use VS 2005 or 2008.

              "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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              • P Paul Conrad

                I already told you, if you are going down the .net road, use VS 2005 or 2008.

                "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                Ismail Durmaz
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                :) no, no i don't want to use .net :D

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                • I Ismail Durmaz

                  :) no, no i don't want to use .net :D

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  With the Standard edition of VS2005/2008, you can do native code using Win32 as well.

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                  • I Ismail Durmaz

                    although i am using .net c++, i want to run application while .net framework isn't installed on the another machine. anyone knows, is it possible? thanks.

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                    darkonoid wrote:

                    i am using .net c++

                    You just told me you don't want to use .net. Here you are saying you are using it. Make up your mind, then.

                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                    • P Paul Conrad

                      With the Standard edition of VS2005/2008, you can do native code using Win32 as well.

                      "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      ok thanks

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        darkonoid wrote:

                        i am using .net c++

                        You just told me you don't want to use .net. Here you are saying you are using it. Make up your mind, then.

                        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                        i use vs2005 platform because environment is capable, but when i run the executable file, it should not related with .net framework. when i say .net platform, i mention visual studio 2005/2008

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                        • I Ismail Durmaz

                          i use vs2005 platform because environment is capable, but when i run the executable file, it should not related with .net framework. when i say .net platform, i mention visual studio 2005/2008

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                          What kind of project are you creating? If you are creating .net projects, then you are stuck with the framework. If you don't want to use the framework, then go with MFC.

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                          • P Paul Conrad

                            What kind of project are you creating? If you are creating .net projects, then you are stuck with the framework. If you don't want to use the framework, then go with MFC.

                            "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            i create mfc applications on visual studio 6.0, but i want to create more quickly and easily. so i use visual studio 2005, however mfc applications needs .net framework on any machines

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                              i create mfc applications on visual studio 6.0, but i want to create more quickly and easily. so i use visual studio 2005, however mfc applications needs .net framework on any machines

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                              darkonoid wrote:

                              however mfc applications needs .net framework on any machines

                              Not so. MFC and .net are two completely different things.

                              "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                darkonoid wrote:

                                however mfc applications needs .net framework on any machines

                                Not so. MFC and .net are two completely different things.

                                "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                hmm ok, thanks a lot.

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                                • I Ismail Durmaz

                                  hmm ok, thanks a lot.

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                                  Unless you want to be really adventurous and mix the two together :-\

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                                  • P Paul Conrad

                                    Unless you want to be really adventurous and mix the two together :-\

                                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                    i couldn't tell what i want :D, english is not my native language :)

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                                    • I Ismail Durmaz

                                      i see what you mention, but it doesn't work, that you tell

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                                      CPallini
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                                      In fact it works as I told. I've done a lot of programs that way. The only caveat maybe the runtime version: you have two options, link with the static version of the runtime (/MT option) of compiler command line or deploy the runtime DLL toghether with your application. :)

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                                      • P Paul Conrad

                                        darkonoid wrote:

                                        i am using .net c++

                                        You just told me you don't want to use .net. Here you are saying you are using it. Make up your mind, then.

                                        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                        Hi there. have you try this my friends ? if your project is an win32 application project !! i think you can use this configuration : Project menu --> project properties --> configuration properties --> general --> in project defaults group select No Common Language Runtime support for common language runtime support . your application will never need to .net framework

                                        DMASTER

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                                          Hi there. have you try this my friends ? if your project is an win32 application project !! i think you can use this configuration : Project menu --> project properties --> configuration properties --> general --> in project defaults group select No Common Language Runtime support for common language runtime support . your application will never need to .net framework

                                          DMASTER

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                                          That'll work as well. I think the OP wasn't sure exactly what he was going to develop with.

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