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Damn, not what I was hoping for. Sounds like many more years of conflict. Which do you think is the right path, HTML5 or XHTML 2?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
The purist in me says XHTML 2, but the pragmatist says HTML 5. But honestly I'd be glad just one of them becomes THE standard. I'm so not looking forward to years of battle between these two competing standards.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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The purist in me says XHTML 2, but the pragmatist says HTML 5. But honestly I'd be glad just one of them becomes THE standard. I'm so not looking forward to years of battle between these two competing standards.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandRohde wrote:
But honestly I'd be glad just one of them becomes THE standard. I'm so not looking forward to years of battle between these two competing standards.
My point exactly. I wish some "visionary" would actually think of how they could merge the best of both.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
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Damn, not what I was hoping for. Sounds like many more years of conflict. Which do you think is the right path, HTML5 or XHTML 2?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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You might be right on the lateness issue. None the less I like that there's a standard way of doing it. It seems more future proof that way I think. :)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandOh totally. Conformance to a standard (whatever the standard may be) is a wonderful thing. It instantly means that things become transportable. Look at Posix and XML.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
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Paul Watson wrote:
Which do you think is the right path, HTML5 or XHTML 2?
HXTML 2.5 ;P
xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowI'm rooting for LeppieML
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I'm rooting for LeppieML
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Or CPML even :)
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
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I'm rooting for LeppieML
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I'm rooting for LeppieML
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Also I see the style attribute is not valid on any tag except font! So no more inline styles. That seems counter productive, although I am not for inline styles, they are handy for testing stuff.
xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowIf you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki
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Here's the link to the differences between HTML 5 and HTML 4: Clickety[^] [edit] For the record, I got the link before I got the Code Project daily news.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
modified on Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:08:48 AM
I still can't believe that the best html tag ever created will be gone. The 1 letter b and i tag will be replace with with other meaning, this is ridiculous. This will create tons for breaking page, especially the forum where the user input could contains those tag. # Citation from the document # The b element now represents a span of text to be stylistically offset from the normal prose without conveying any extra importance, such as key words in a document abstract, product names in a review, or other spans of text whose typical typographic presentation is emboldened. The i element now represents a span of text in an alternate voice or mood, or otherwise offset from the normal prose, such as a taxonomic designation, a technical term, an idiomatic phrase from another language, a thought, a ship name, or some other prose whose typical typographic presentation is italicized. Usage varies widely by language.
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Also I see the style attribute is not valid on any tag except font! So no more inline styles. That seems counter productive, although I am not for inline styles, they are handy for testing stuff.
xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowAFAIK That's going to get ugly with outlook and html email. The outlook team dropped the IE rendering engine in favor of words much less capable one (it works better in a pure exchange environment :rolleyes: X|) which has major problems with stand along style sheets.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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How confusing is acronym? why is abbr better? One is a perfectly crumulent word describing a series of letters that make a word that stand for something else, the other is merely the forshortening of a word. They are NOT interchangable. NATO is and Acronym, not an abbreviation. I grant there are apocope and elisions, but even abbr is an abreviation, not an acronym. Why do people who do not have ENGLISH as their first language wish to bastardize it so readily?
------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.
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Also I see the style attribute is not valid on any tag except font! So no more inline styles. That seems counter productive, although I am not for inline styles, they are handy for testing stuff.
xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowYep, I agree. Not only testing, but are handy at times to override a given style in a class on server controls (which have changing IDs) without having to define yet another class. I get tired of thinking less is more unless the less hinders more..
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I still can't believe that the best html tag ever created will be gone. The 1 letter b and i tag will be replace with with other meaning, this is ridiculous. This will create tons for breaking page, especially the forum where the user input could contains those tag. # Citation from the document # The b element now represents a span of text to be stylistically offset from the normal prose without conveying any extra importance, such as key words in a document abstract, product names in a review, or other spans of text whose typical typographic presentation is emboldened. The i element now represents a span of text in an alternate voice or mood, or otherwise offset from the normal prose, such as a taxonomic designation, a technical term, an idiomatic phrase from another language, a thought, a ship name, or some other prose whose typical typographic presentation is italicized. Usage varies widely by language.
Yep, less typing was always better :)
Rocky <>< Blog Post: Handy utility app that is always on my machines! Tech Blog Post: Moving on up with Windows Live stuff and Plus!
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I still can't believe that the best html tag ever created will be gone. The 1 letter b and i tag will be replace with with other meaning, this is ridiculous. This will create tons for breaking page, especially the forum where the user input could contains those tag. # Citation from the document # The b element now represents a span of text to be stylistically offset from the normal prose without conveying any extra importance, such as key words in a document abstract, product names in a review, or other spans of text whose typical typographic presentation is emboldened. The i element now represents a span of text in an alternate voice or mood, or otherwise offset from the normal prose, such as a taxonomic designation, a technical term, an idiomatic phrase from another language, a thought, a ship name, or some other prose whose typical typographic presentation is italicized. Usage varies widely by language.
Jcmorin wrote:
The 1 letter b and i tag will be replace with with other meaning, this is ridiculous. This will create tons for breaking page
No, it will not. Ever heard of DOCTYPE? (badly written websites aside.. X|)
Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak Miraculum Software[^]
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Here's the link to the differences between HTML 5 and HTML 4: Clickety[^] [edit] For the record, I got the link before I got the Code Project daily news.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
modified on Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:08:48 AM
Wow, my first impression is that W3C is trying to block Silverlight and XAML taking over the web and I think that's great. I would like to see 3D API for canvas but I guess 3D libraries can be built on top of the 2D API. I do agree that it's a little conflicting with Xforms and XHTML 2 but I guess they figure it's going to be easier for browsers to support HTML 5 in the short run. I love the new tags and attributes: command, details, datalist, event-source, output, progress, new input types, autofocus, ping, menu, back button API for AJAX... wow man.. if it holds, it's going to make things a lot easier and standardized for developers...