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    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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    It is a matter of deep concern that the current politicians are not at all concerned with the welfare of our dumb friends. I have three incidents to share: 1) Yesterday near Madurai in Tamil Nadu, a speeding train killed three elephants. One elephant was pregnant. The elephant is considered so sacred throughout the world. And the forest guard buggers seemed to have incessantly burnt crackers to shoo-shoo away those poor elepants onto railway tracks and they succumbed to their bestial instincts. Here is the news clipping on the same: http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/speeding-train-kills-three-elephants-in-coimbatore_10016220.html[^] 2) Sometime a week back, the local government seemed to have thrown the mercy for animals to air to strenghten its vote banks by filing petition after counter petitions to the Apex Court in getting the bull fighting reinstated. They went to the extent of arresting the PETA chief for protesting against this: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038843&ch=1/18/2008%204:22:00%20PM[^] Where is our culture heading to? God alone should interfere and save our rich culture and these poor friends. :mad: :mad:

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      It is a matter of deep concern that the current politicians are not at all concerned with the welfare of our dumb friends. I have three incidents to share: 1) Yesterday near Madurai in Tamil Nadu, a speeding train killed three elephants. One elephant was pregnant. The elephant is considered so sacred throughout the world. And the forest guard buggers seemed to have incessantly burnt crackers to shoo-shoo away those poor elepants onto railway tracks and they succumbed to their bestial instincts. Here is the news clipping on the same: http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/speeding-train-kills-three-elephants-in-coimbatore_10016220.html[^] 2) Sometime a week back, the local government seemed to have thrown the mercy for animals to air to strenghten its vote banks by filing petition after counter petitions to the Apex Court in getting the bull fighting reinstated. They went to the extent of arresting the PETA chief for protesting against this: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038843&ch=1/18/2008%204:22:00%20PM[^] Where is our culture heading to? God alone should interfere and save our rich culture and these poor friends. :mad: :mad:

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      A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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      Fred_Smith
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      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

      I have three incidents to share

      So what's number 3? It's all very sad, but only to be expected from the selfish animal that is humankind. One day we'll evolve beyond our base animal instincts and behaviour, but we sure ain't there yet. We may be smarter, but we are a long way off being better.

      Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

      God alone should interfere and save our rich culture and these poor friends

      Sorry, but He doesn't have a very good track record. He drowned them all last time, if I remember... (and it was supposedly for OUR faults as well...)

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        It is a matter of deep concern that the current politicians are not at all concerned with the welfare of our dumb friends. I have three incidents to share: 1) Yesterday near Madurai in Tamil Nadu, a speeding train killed three elephants. One elephant was pregnant. The elephant is considered so sacred throughout the world. And the forest guard buggers seemed to have incessantly burnt crackers to shoo-shoo away those poor elepants onto railway tracks and they succumbed to their bestial instincts. Here is the news clipping on the same: http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/speeding-train-kills-three-elephants-in-coimbatore_10016220.html[^] 2) Sometime a week back, the local government seemed to have thrown the mercy for animals to air to strenghten its vote banks by filing petition after counter petitions to the Apex Court in getting the bull fighting reinstated. They went to the extent of arresting the PETA chief for protesting against this: http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080038843&ch=1/18/2008%204:22:00%20PM[^] Where is our culture heading to? God alone should interfere and save our rich culture and these poor friends. :mad: :mad:

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        A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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        But doesnt kiling an animal lead to its reincarnation as a higher life form (ie, Hindism)?

        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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          Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

          I have three incidents to share

          So what's number 3? It's all very sad, but only to be expected from the selfish animal that is humankind. One day we'll evolve beyond our base animal instincts and behaviour, but we sure ain't there yet. We may be smarter, but we are a long way off being better.

          Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

          God alone should interfere and save our rich culture and these poor friends

          Sorry, but He doesn't have a very good track record. He drowned them all last time, if I remember... (and it was supposedly for OUR faults as well...)

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          Fred_Smith wrote:

          He drowned them all last time, if I remember... (and it was supposedly for OUR faults as well...)

          He also, allegedly, created them for us to rule as we please.

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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            Fred_Smith wrote:

            He drowned them all last time, if I remember... (and it was supposedly for OUR faults as well...)

            He also, allegedly, created them for us to rule as we please.

            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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            there are good rulers, and there are bad rulers...

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              there are good rulers, and there are bad rulers...

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              Yes. Metric and imperial. I like the metric ones... ;)

              -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                Yes. Metric and imperial. I like the metric ones... ;)

                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                Fred_Smith
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                ...but 9 inches is SO much bigger than 9 centimetres.... ;)

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                  ...but 9 inches is SO much bigger than 9 centimetres.... ;)

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  ...but with 9 decimeters, you don't need a belt... ;)

                  -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                    I have three incidents to share

                    So what's number 3? It's all very sad, but only to be expected from the selfish animal that is humankind. One day we'll evolve beyond our base animal instincts and behaviour, but we sure ain't there yet. We may be smarter, but we are a long way off being better.

                    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                    God alone should interfere and save our rich culture and these poor friends

                    Sorry, but He doesn't have a very good track record. He drowned them all last time, if I remember... (and it was supposedly for OUR faults as well...)

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    Fred_Smith wrote:

                    what's number 3

                    I have seen a little dog near my house sometime about three months back groaning with pain. Some ass**le seemed to have hit it earlier in the wee hours of the day. For nearly an hour I was trying to locate some nearby vet to locate. We have so many ambulance services swishing through the expressways and corridors of the cities servicing human patients but unfortunately the number of vets are very very less at least in Chennai, India. Fortunately, my friend tried to locate an animal volunteer-vet house which is about a couple of miles drive and we called him for help. I wrote an email note to cop@vsnl.net (Chennai Commissioner of Police) with a cc to Animal Welfare Department as directed from http://www.tn.gov.in/[^] to check on the reckless driving in my area and to erect median dividers. And those smarta**es sitting over the ruling position of the state have time only to give press releases but not for the welfare of anyone.

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                      But doesnt kiling an animal lead to its reincarnation as a higher life form (ie, Hindism)?

                      Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      No. Definitely not. There are zillions of superstitions that actually hide the inner deep content like a cloud that hides the sun momentarily. The Hindu scriptures always profess 'Ahimsa' (Non-Violence) and True Mutual Love and Affection with each other.

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                      A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                        Fred_Smith wrote:

                        what's number 3

                        I have seen a little dog near my house sometime about three months back groaning with pain. Some ass**le seemed to have hit it earlier in the wee hours of the day. For nearly an hour I was trying to locate some nearby vet to locate. We have so many ambulance services swishing through the expressways and corridors of the cities servicing human patients but unfortunately the number of vets are very very less at least in Chennai, India. Fortunately, my friend tried to locate an animal volunteer-vet house which is about a couple of miles drive and we called him for help. I wrote an email note to cop@vsnl.net (Chennai Commissioner of Police) with a cc to Animal Welfare Department as directed from http://www.tn.gov.in/[^] to check on the reckless driving in my area and to erect median dividers. And those smarta**es sitting over the ruling position of the state have time only to give press releases but not for the welfare of anyone.

                        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
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                        A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                        Well at least you tried - that's the most any of us can do. Unfortunately the majority of people have convinced themselves either that animals don't feel pain or that what they do isn't worth being concerned about. We (Whites) used to feel the same about Black people once, but we grew up, eventually. But just as then, our feelings are only a mask to cover our desire to have what we want without concern for anything other than ourselves. Nothing wrong with selfishness per se, but one day we'll come to realise that we can serve our own interests even better if we look outside of ourselves at the same time.

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                          No. Definitely not. There are zillions of superstitions that actually hide the inner deep content like a cloud that hides the sun momentarily. The Hindu scriptures always profess 'Ahimsa' (Non-Violence) and True Mutual Love and Affection with each other.

                          Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage
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                          A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                          How about if you killed it in a non violent way, and lovingly sent it on its way to the next incarnation?

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                            Well at least you tried - that's the most any of us can do. Unfortunately the majority of people have convinced themselves either that animals don't feel pain or that what they do isn't worth being concerned about. We (Whites) used to feel the same about Black people once, but we grew up, eventually. But just as then, our feelings are only a mask to cover our desire to have what we want without concern for anything other than ourselves. Nothing wrong with selfishness per se, but one day we'll come to realise that we can serve our own interests even better if we look outside of ourselves at the same time.

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                            Fred_Smith wrote:

                            Nothing wrong with selfishness per se

                            I disagree, selfishness is the bases of all evil.


                            Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                              How about if you killed it in a non violent way, and lovingly sent it on its way to the next incarnation?

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              Like how? Your terminally ill hamster? :~

                              -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                Fred_Smith wrote:

                                Nothing wrong with selfishness per se

                                I disagree, selfishness is the bases of all evil.


                                Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                No it isn't - evil is f***ing priests preaching that it's a sin to think of yourself - this leads to some very screwed up and unhappy people. The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself. The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet.... The trick is to realise that these are not mutually exclusive aims. Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.

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                                  Fred_Smith wrote:

                                  Nothing wrong with selfishness per se

                                  I disagree, selfishness is the bases of all evil.


                                  Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                  You're both wrong, greed is the greatest evil.

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                                    No it isn't - evil is f***ing priests preaching that it's a sin to think of yourself - this leads to some very screwed up and unhappy people. The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself. The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet.... The trick is to realise that these are not mutually exclusive aims. Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.

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                                    Fred_Smith wrote:

                                    Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.

                                    Strange I read the other day that if everyone on the planet lived as a citizen of the USA does we'd need 6 more planet earth's.

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                                      No it isn't - evil is f***ing priests preaching that it's a sin to think of yourself - this leads to some very screwed up and unhappy people. The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself. The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet.... The trick is to realise that these are not mutually exclusive aims. Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.

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                                      BoneSoft
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                                      So, you're saying that we should consider how our actions effect those other than ourselves... Sounds a lot like the opposite of selfishness.

                                      Fred_Smith wrote:

                                      The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet....

                                      Not self interests. Sounds like everything you said after "No it isn't" is an agreement after all.


                                      Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                        You're both wrong, greed is the greatest evil.

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                                        BoneSoft
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                                        There is no 'greatest' evil. And what do you think greed is based in? Selfishness.


                                        Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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                                          No it isn't - evil is f***ing priests preaching that it's a sin to think of yourself - this leads to some very screwed up and unhappy people. The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself. The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet.... The trick is to realise that these are not mutually exclusive aims. Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.

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                                          Fred_Smith wrote:

                                          Nothing wrong with selfishness per se

                                          Fred_Smith wrote:

                                          The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself.

                                          Um. What's your definition of "selfish"? :~

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