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Fred_Smith wrote:
Nothing wrong with selfishness per se
I disagree, selfishness is the bases of all evil.
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No it isn't - evil is f***ing priests preaching that it's a sin to think of yourself - this leads to some very screwed up and unhappy people. The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself. The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet.... The trick is to realise that these are not mutually exclusive aims. Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.
Fred_Smith wrote:
Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.
Strange I read the other day that if everyone on the planet lived as a citizen of the USA does we'd need 6 more planet earth's.
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No it isn't - evil is f***ing priests preaching that it's a sin to think of yourself - this leads to some very screwed up and unhappy people. The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself. The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet.... The trick is to realise that these are not mutually exclusive aims. Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.
So, you're saying that we should consider how our actions effect those other than ourselves... Sounds a lot like the opposite of selfishness.
Fred_Smith wrote:
The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet....
Not self interests. Sounds like everything you said after "No it isn't" is an agreement after all.
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There is no 'greatest' evil. And what do you think greed is based in? Selfishness.
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No it isn't - evil is f***ing priests preaching that it's a sin to think of yourself - this leads to some very screwed up and unhappy people. The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself. The goal we should be aiming for is one where everyone's best interests are met - human, animal, the planet.... The trick is to realise that these are not mutually exclusive aims. Not only do we not have to kill half the planet off for our own needs and desires, but we shouldn't either - it really isn't in our best interest to do so.
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Fred_Smith wrote:
Nothing wrong with selfishness per se
Fred_Smith wrote:
The problems arise when you ONLY think of yourself.
Um. What's your definition of "selfish"? :~
Selfish means thinking of oneself. It does not in itself imply that you cannot ALSO think of others. It does not have to mean ONLY thinking of oneself. All I'm trying to say is that your needs are as valid as anyone else's, and no-one should have to make a sacrificial animal of themselves in order for others to get their needs.
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Selfish means thinking of oneself. It does not in itself imply that you cannot ALSO think of others. It does not have to mean ONLY thinking of oneself. All I'm trying to say is that your needs are as valid as anyone else's, and no-one should have to make a sacrificial animal of themselves in order for others to get their needs.
Selfish: 1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others. 2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.
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Selfish means thinking of oneself. It does not in itself imply that you cannot ALSO think of others. It does not have to mean ONLY thinking of oneself. All I'm trying to say is that your needs are as valid as anyone else's, and no-one should have to make a sacrificial animal of themselves in order for others to get their needs.
Yeah, i was kinda hoping you'd get the Through The Looking Glass reference and stop trying to clean this up. See, we all think about ourselves. It's pretty much how we're set up. You don't call someone selfish when they eat their breakfast instead of putting it in a box and mailing it to China addressed to "any starving kids that might come across this". The command is "Love your neighbor as yourself", not "hate yourself, love your neighbor". The word "selfish" is used to describe someone who thinks predominately or exclusively about themselves, unwilling or unable to empathize with others. It's a negative word, but a useful word. I'm not sure what you think you'll gain from twisting it to mean something else... Did a priest hurt your feelings by calling you selfish or something? :suss:
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Like how? Your terminally ill hamster? :~
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