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    Kalvin Work
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    I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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      I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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      The gamers that I know who prefer linux use tools like cedega[^] and wine[^] to run a pretty good sized subset of games on linux.

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        I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        Linux is a "geek friendly" system. If you want flexibility, control, power and don't mind sometimes steep learning curve, Linux (or any *nix) is a great system to play with or develop on. If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux. Oh, and if you are a gamer (I am not), forget Linux :)

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          Linux is a "geek friendly" system. If you want flexibility, control, power and don't mind sometimes steep learning curve, Linux (or any *nix) is a great system to play with or develop on. If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux. Oh, and if you are a gamer (I am not), forget Linux :)

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          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

          If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux.

          A good friend of mine and major linux geek told me once "Nothing kills productivity like installing linux."

          A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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            Linux is a "geek friendly" system. If you want flexibility, control, power and don't mind sometimes steep learning curve, Linux (or any *nix) is a great system to play with or develop on. If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux. Oh, and if you are a gamer (I am not), forget Linux :)

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            Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

            If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux.

            Assuming your job requires Windows software... :^)

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              I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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              El Corazon
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              ramhog wrote:

              Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world?

              no, not really... though I am not ready to switch to Linux as prime, I do run it as a secondary OS. Wine is the tool of choice for those wanting to run existing windows games without additional charge. That is not to say it is perfect, as with any free Linux tool, it is constantly changing and improving and so new games tend to take time before they are supported. Cadega mentioned above is a commercial tool, and it will take almost any windows program using graphics and display it under Linux. It is very good, and gets better much faster, but you do pay for it. There are choices even under Linux, and tomorrow there will probably be more.

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                I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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                Dual-boot. Windows for games, Linux for... you know, fun stuff... like programming. :-\

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                  Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                  If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux.

                  Assuming your job requires Windows software... :^)

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                  Shog9 wrote:

                  Assuming your job requires Windows software...

                  ...or Mac :)

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                    Shog9 wrote:

                    Assuming your job requires Windows software...

                    ...or Mac :)

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                    Macs have software? I thought they ran crystallized fairy dust! :omg:

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                      Macs have software? I thought they ran crystallized fairy dust! :omg:

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                      You forgot about the tight black jeans and shirt.

                      A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                        You forgot about the tight black jeans and shirt.

                        A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                        If that's what Mac users are crystallizing, i don't want to know about it. :rolleyes:

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                          Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                          If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux.

                          Assuming your job requires Windows software... :^)

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                          Kalvin Work
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                          Yes my job requires Windows. I've thought before about moving to Mac but then I have to remember 2 platforms and how to customize and tweak stuff. So, I stick with Windows. Kalvin

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                            Dual-boot. Windows for games, Linux for... you know, fun stuff... like programming. :-\

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                            Kalvin Work
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                            That all makes sense. Thanks for all of your replies. Kalvin

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                              I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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                              Jim Crafton
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                              ramhog wrote:

                              I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux.

                              Why? Is your interest simply in learning about/using other OSs? Do you like to program for multiple platforms? Otherwise there really isn't that much of a reason to switch. Unless you like fiddling around, downloading random updates, fooling around with installing various non OSS drivers, media plugins, etc.

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                                Dual-boot. Windows for games, Linux for... you know, fun stuff... like programming. :-\

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                                Shog9 wrote:

                                fun stuff... like programming.

                                VMWare anyone? ;)

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                                  That all makes sense. Thanks for all of your replies. Kalvin

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                                  VMWare?  That's what I've been using when I have to write code for Linux.

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                                    I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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                                    Currently running Ubuntu 7.10 and Vista Ultimate, I play WoW on both, no problems at all (needed one small config change in WoW to use OpenGL instead of DirectX) Try wubi, it will download Ubuntu for you, make a few files on your harddrive (no repartitioning) adds itself to windows bootloader and off you go :) I used the 7.10 wubi which is still in alpha because it doesn't work on some systems, but nothing gets damaged, you just restart in windows and uninstall wubi. http://wubi-installer.org/devel/minefield/[^] 8.04 is currently at alpha 4 and 7.10 is stable

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                                      I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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                                      No idea about the games side of it, but if you're new to Linux, and want a complete Linux distribution, with office tools, developer tools, web tools, and that "just works", I recommend Ubuntu[^] Just download the install disk, stick it on a CD and reboot - it will guide you through, and it will handle setting up a partition if you want to keep your Windows installation on the same machine.

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                                        Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                        If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux.

                                        A good friend of mine and major linux geek told me once "Nothing kills productivity like installing linux."

                                        A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                                        or Vista ;)

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                                          I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin

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                                          David Stone
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                                          I've been running Linux as my primary OS for about 6 months now. I still have Vista installed so that I can play games and stuff. But most of the actually productive stuff I do is in Linux. If nothing else, you should give it a spin just to see how you like it. There are a gazillion different distributions. If you've never touched Linux before, Ubuntu or Debian would probably be your best bet. (I personally prefer Debian to Ubuntu, but Ubuntu does strive to be very user friendly.) If you want to dive into the deep end, Gentoo is pretty awesome. (That's what I run.) You basically compile your whole system from scratch. ;P It really forces you to learn a lot about how Linux works and how it's set up.

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