Linux vs Windows
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You forgot about the tight black jeans and shirt.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
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You forgot about the tight black jeans and shirt.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux.
Assuming your job requires Windows software... :^)
Yes my job requires Windows. I've thought before about moving to Mac but then I have to remember 2 platforms and how to customize and tweak stuff. So, I stick with Windows. Kalvin
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That all makes sense. Thanks for all of your replies. Kalvin
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I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin
ramhog wrote:
I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux.
Why? Is your interest simply in learning about/using other OSs? Do you like to program for multiple platforms? Otherwise there really isn't that much of a reason to switch. Unless you like fiddling around, downloading random updates, fooling around with installing various non OSS drivers, media plugins, etc.
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That all makes sense. Thanks for all of your replies. Kalvin
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I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin
Currently running Ubuntu 7.10 and Vista Ultimate, I play WoW on both, no problems at all (needed one small config change in WoW to use OpenGL instead of DirectX) Try wubi, it will download Ubuntu for you, make a few files on your harddrive (no repartitioning) adds itself to windows bootloader and off you go :) I used the 7.10 wubi which is still in alpha because it doesn't work on some systems, but nothing gets damaged, you just restart in windows and uninstall wubi. http://wubi-installer.org/devel/minefield/[^] 8.04 is currently at alpha 4 and 7.10 is stable
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I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin
No idea about the games side of it, but if you're new to Linux, and want a complete Linux distribution, with office tools, developer tools, web tools, and that "just works", I recommend Ubuntu[^] Just download the install disk, stick it on a CD and reboot - it will guide you through, and it will handle setting up a partition if you want to keep your Windows installation on the same machine.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
If you want to just get the job done, I suggest you stay away from Linux.
A good friend of mine and major linux geek told me once "Nothing kills productivity like installing linux."
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
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I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I have thought many times how nice it might be to move to Linux. The thing that keeps me from moving to Linux is the lack of software available. If I run a Linux system are there Linux versions of games, like World of Warcraft, available to play? Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world? If I knew there was a good way to be able to play the latest games on a Linux box I would be happy to switch. Is there something about Linux that I'm not aware of or is Linux really just useful for business use where you only want to use a small number of programs? I'm not trying to say anything bad about Linux or Windows. I really just want information about Linux and using current software. Thanks. Kalvin
I've been running Linux as my primary OS for about 6 months now. I still have Vista installed so that I can play games and stuff. But most of the actually productive stuff I do is in Linux. If nothing else, you should give it a spin just to see how you like it. There are a gazillion different distributions. If you've never touched Linux before, Ubuntu or Debian would probably be your best bet. (I personally prefer Debian to Ubuntu, but Ubuntu does strive to be very user friendly.) If you want to dive into the deep end, Gentoo is pretty awesome. (That's what I run.) You basically compile your whole system from scratch. ;P It really forces you to learn a lot about how Linux works and how it's set up.
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The univoter strikes again.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
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The univoter strikes again.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
Appears to me like a Windows Vista basher basher.
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ramhog wrote:
Is a Linux user just stuck with whatever games happen to be in the open source world?
no, not really... though I am not ready to switch to Linux as prime, I do run it as a secondary OS. Wine is the tool of choice for those wanting to run existing windows games without additional charge. That is not to say it is perfect, as with any free Linux tool, it is constantly changing and improving and so new games tend to take time before they are supported. Cadega mentioned above is a commercial tool, and it will take almost any windows program using graphics and display it under Linux. It is very good, and gets better much faster, but you do pay for it. There are choices even under Linux, and tomorrow there will probably be more.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I don't believe in running DirectX games on Linux. I checked last time about 2.5 years ago, perhaps they moved forward? (and Microsoft went ahead with DX10 :P) Last time I tried this was when I bought WoW. After fighting with the installer for a couple hours I wiped out the system and installed a fresh copy of WinXP to finally play the damn game! :P Nowadays I will tell you - if you want to play games get yourself a console.
Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak Miraculum Software[^]
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I don't believe in running DirectX games on Linux. I checked last time about 2.5 years ago, perhaps they moved forward? (and Microsoft went ahead with DX10 :P) Last time I tried this was when I bought WoW. After fighting with the installer for a couple hours I wiped out the system and installed a fresh copy of WinXP to finally play the damn game! :P Nowadays I will tell you - if you want to play games get yourself a console.
Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak Miraculum Software[^]
Pawel Krakowiak wrote:
I don't believe in running DirectX games on Linux.
Cedega[^] has come a long way, but it is a pay as you go product... you for a subscription and then can use the software... I never paid to see if your software times out at the end.... It's $55 a year, which isn't bad, but you are talking year after year, after year.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pawel Krakowiak wrote:
I don't believe in running DirectX games on Linux.
Cedega[^] has come a long way, but it is a pay as you go product... you for a subscription and then can use the software... I never paid to see if your software times out at the end.... It's $55 a year, which isn't bad, but you are talking year after year, after year.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I know Cedega, haven't used it though. Their list of supported games[^] (some are listed but not playable, you have to check individual titles) is not satisfactory, though. :) At least for me.
Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak Miraculum Software[^]