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  • C Chris Losinger

    and i really hate the way you think you can lump 280 million people into whatever package fits whatever point you're trying to make. David Wulff wrote: Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty. as the British Empire has been proving nicely, for the past 100 years. -c


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    David Wulff
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    Hey Chris, did you read any of that? :confused: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? Chris Losinger wrote: as the British Empire has been proving nicely, for the past 100 years Er, yes, which is also the same example I gave in my text. This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. :suss:


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    • C Christian Graus

      Tim Smith wrote: Totally depends on where you want to live. Which is exactly the same as here, and exactly what I would expect. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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      Yup. Nothing new. I really don't think he is trolling. He just picks the damn strangest topics. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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        Yup. Nothing new. I really don't think he is trolling. He just picks the damn strangest topics. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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        Christian Graus
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        It's not the question as much as the way it was asked. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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        • D David Wulff

          Martin Marvinski wrote: What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? But Martin, I can get all of those things and anything else you can think of here in Britian. There is just no reason to move stateside - in fact there are compelling reasons not to considering the differences between our societies. Don't feel too bad - someone had to get the short straw. :-D Martin Marvinski wrote: Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere Don't pick holes in my logic! Okay then, if you insist... let's see if you really have changes since you became a member... I dislike the strongly-American approach to, quite simply, what is right, what is wrong and what is acceptable; the assumptions that are made on others' behalf and the general attitude you convey both to yourselves and to others; the intollerance of extremes and even the pettiest of oppositions; the way you prefer to lie to yourselves than face the truth; and finally I dislike the way you interfere with international relations that quite simply do not concern you - well maybe financially - and whine and bitch if another power tries to do the same to you. Being a modern super-civilisation, I'd have thought you'd have learnt from the mistakes we have both made in the past centuries, and for a nation with a large proportion of it's citizens reportedly believing in a single divine being, you really should realise that you are not a god. In attitude. * Note that I said "strongly-American approach to" for a reason. As you said, Americans as a rule of thumb are as normal as you or I. On second thoughts... ;P The problem with America is that is is essentially a room full of individual pubescent countries that are trying to play nice together, while being told when they can go out and play by a super-power that simply cannot control them all effectively. If you were to be given true freedom, you would revert to anachy and wipe yourselves out for the pettiest of reasons. ---- I say "in your face". You say "up yours" Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty.


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          Tim Smith
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          I can say practically everything you just said about most any 1st world country. It is just when you do it, you are also too arrogant to see how foul it is. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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          • T Tim Smith

            I can say practically everything you just said about most any 1st world country. It is just when you do it, you are also too arrogant to see how foul it is. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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            David Wulff
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            Okay... first Chris then you - which part of it confused you into thinking I meant anything otherwise? I am talking attitudes here, with exception to one paragraph, and made damned sure I included every country to prevent just this sort of response. :confused:


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            • D David Wulff

              Hey Chris, did you read any of that? :confused: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? Chris Losinger wrote: as the British Empire has been proving nicely, for the past 100 years Er, yes, which is also the same example I gave in my text. This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. :suss:


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              David Wulff wrote: Hey Chris, did you read any of that? sure did. you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy. and, i don't know anyone, in any country, who could be accurately described as a living breathing representation of their country's foreign policy. (regardless of what you try to disclaim in your footnote) David Wulff wrote: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? only you know the answer to that. David Wulff wrote: This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. sure, you can come up with cartoon American based on whatever feature you think you see and then want to exaggerate; but it's nothing more than a caricature. and as usual, you're dancing that cartoon around, trying to score points against it. -c


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                Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?

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                I'd like to move to America; anywhere north of the 49th parellel would be great. Oh, wait, I'm already there... :laugh: "Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded." -John Carmack [^]

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                • M Martin Marvinski

                  Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?

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                  bryce
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                  america is agreat been there a few times now :) i'd love to go work there bryce

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                  • D David Wulff

                    Okay... first Chris then you - which part of it confused you into thinking I meant anything otherwise? I am talking attitudes here, with exception to one paragraph, and made damned sure I included every country to prevent just this sort of response. :confused:


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                    Shog9 0
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                    Heheh, once again, proof that people don't read footnotes. Just generalize it... People Suck. Of course, this'll get all the perverts & smart asses replying, but hey, that's nothing new...

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      David Wulff wrote: Hey Chris, did you read any of that? sure did. you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy. and, i don't know anyone, in any country, who could be accurately described as a living breathing representation of their country's foreign policy. (regardless of what you try to disclaim in your footnote) David Wulff wrote: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? only you know the answer to that. David Wulff wrote: This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. sure, you can come up with cartoon American based on whatever feature you think you see and then want to exaggerate; but it's nothing more than a caricature. and as usual, you're dancing that cartoon around, trying to score points against it. -c


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                      Image Processing - easy, like Sunday morning.

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                      To avoid wasting my time answering all of that individually, it can be nulled with just one answer: Chris Losinger wrote: you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy No I am not. Would you like that enboldended? How about superscripted? Indeed, in addition to that, I can say that nowhere have I stated otherwise. You said you had read it, well read it again with your font size a little bigger and you might notice there is some small text about half way through that says I am talking Americanisms, per se, which is no more speaking about Americans than saying Jet Li is British because he can speak English. :(


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                        Heheh, once again, proof that people don't read footnotes. Just generalize it... People Suck. Of course, this'll get all the perverts & smart asses replying, but hey, that's nothing new...

                        - Shog9 -

                        Aaah... It's time to relax. You know what that means: a glass of beer, your favorite ergo chair... And of course, The Code Project loaded on your Personal Computer System. So go on, and indulge yourself, put your feet up. Lean back and just enjoy the articles. After all, CP sooths even the savage :bob:

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                        David Wulff
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                        Shog9 wrote: Heheh, once again, proof that people don't read footnotes It would seem so. :(( Shog9 wrote: Just generalize it... People Suck I don't think that is fair on all people though, I mean (apparently) it's just other people that suck... :laugh: Shog9 wrote: perverts & smart asses replying Oh sh*t, am I at the wrong site again?! :~ :rolleyes:


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                        • D David Wulff

                          To avoid wasting my time answering all of that individually, it can be nulled with just one answer: Chris Losinger wrote: you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy No I am not. Would you like that enboldended? How about superscripted? Indeed, in addition to that, I can say that nowhere have I stated otherwise. You said you had read it, well read it again with your font size a little bigger and you might notice there is some small text about half way through that says I am talking Americanisms, per se, which is no more speaking about Americans than saying Jet Li is British because he can speak English. :(


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                          Chris Losinger
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                          sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook. -c


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                          • C Chris Losinger

                            sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook. -c


                            Being just contaminates the void.
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                            David Wulff
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                            Well I am sorry too, because that little "wink-wink footnote" was clearly marked as a core part of my text, and if you can't be bothered to, even after asking, read it as such then quite frankly you sir have your eye on the doughnut*. * Quote from Bill Sergio.


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                              Well I am sorry too, because that little "wink-wink footnote" was clearly marked as a core part of my text, and if you can't be bothered to, even after asking, read it as such then quite frankly you sir have your eye on the doughnut*. * Quote from Bill Sergio.


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                              Chris Losinger
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                              excellent comeback -c


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                              • M Martin Marvinski

                                Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                  excellent comeback -c


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                                  David Wulff
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                                  (this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:


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                                    (this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:


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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    David Wulff wrote: You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text the hell i did. i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble ? i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. don't bother replying. -c


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                                      For starters :- USD 8K / month High speed net access Fast computer with large monitor MSDN subscription What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Nish


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                                      Nishant S wrote: What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Shhhhhh... They'll all want one! There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.

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                                        (this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:


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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        David Wulff wrote: And you seem to be the only one. He's not. Most people here dislike confrontation, and therefore, do not speak up. As for me personally, I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that in any situation he may have said something which is not considered kind. Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans. And they do differ greatly from that of your eastern cohorts. You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts. Placing a footnote doesn't nullify anything. It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie. You try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity. Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post is no excuse. Keep your focus on what's pertinent and not the extra crap around the donut hole. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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                                          For starters :- USD 8K / month High speed net access Fast computer with large monitor MSDN subscription What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Nish


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                                          Domenic Denicola
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                                          Have you looked into any job openings? I can imagine it wouldn't be impossible to find what you're looking for, and you wouldn't even need to work more than 5 days a week. Just a thought...

                                          -Domenic Denicola- [CPUA 0x1337] MadHamster Creations "I was born human. But this was an accident of fate - a condition merely of time and place. I believe it's something we have the power to change..."

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