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  • T Tim Smith

    I can say practically everything you just said about most any 1st world country. It is just when you do it, you are also too arrogant to see how foul it is. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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    David Wulff
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    Okay... first Chris then you - which part of it confused you into thinking I meant anything otherwise? I am talking attitudes here, with exception to one paragraph, and made damned sure I included every country to prevent just this sort of response. :confused:


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      Hey Chris, did you read any of that? :confused: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? Chris Losinger wrote: as the British Empire has been proving nicely, for the past 100 years Er, yes, which is also the same example I gave in my text. This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. :suss:


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      David Wulff wrote: Hey Chris, did you read any of that? sure did. you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy. and, i don't know anyone, in any country, who could be accurately described as a living breathing representation of their country's foreign policy. (regardless of what you try to disclaim in your footnote) David Wulff wrote: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? only you know the answer to that. David Wulff wrote: This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. sure, you can come up with cartoon American based on whatever feature you think you see and then want to exaggerate; but it's nothing more than a caricature. and as usual, you're dancing that cartoon around, trying to score points against it. -c


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      • M Martin Marvinski

        Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?

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        I'd like to move to America; anywhere north of the 49th parellel would be great. Oh, wait, I'm already there... :laugh: "Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded." -John Carmack [^]

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        • M Martin Marvinski

          Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?

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          america is agreat been there a few times now :) i'd love to go work there bryce

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          • D David Wulff

            Okay... first Chris then you - which part of it confused you into thinking I meant anything otherwise? I am talking attitudes here, with exception to one paragraph, and made damned sure I included every country to prevent just this sort of response. :confused:


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            Shog9 0
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            Heheh, once again, proof that people don't read footnotes. Just generalize it... People Suck. Of course, this'll get all the perverts & smart asses replying, but hey, that's nothing new...

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              David Wulff wrote: Hey Chris, did you read any of that? sure did. you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy. and, i don't know anyone, in any country, who could be accurately described as a living breathing representation of their country's foreign policy. (regardless of what you try to disclaim in your footnote) David Wulff wrote: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? only you know the answer to that. David Wulff wrote: This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. sure, you can come up with cartoon American based on whatever feature you think you see and then want to exaggerate; but it's nothing more than a caricature. and as usual, you're dancing that cartoon around, trying to score points against it. -c


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              David Wulff
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              To avoid wasting my time answering all of that individually, it can be nulled with just one answer: Chris Losinger wrote: you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy No I am not. Would you like that enboldended? How about superscripted? Indeed, in addition to that, I can say that nowhere have I stated otherwise. You said you had read it, well read it again with your font size a little bigger and you might notice there is some small text about half way through that says I am talking Americanisms, per se, which is no more speaking about Americans than saying Jet Li is British because he can speak English. :(


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                Heheh, once again, proof that people don't read footnotes. Just generalize it... People Suck. Of course, this'll get all the perverts & smart asses replying, but hey, that's nothing new...

                - Shog9 -

                Aaah... It's time to relax. You know what that means: a glass of beer, your favorite ergo chair... And of course, The Code Project loaded on your Personal Computer System. So go on, and indulge yourself, put your feet up. Lean back and just enjoy the articles. After all, CP sooths even the savage :bob:

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                David Wulff
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                Shog9 wrote: Heheh, once again, proof that people don't read footnotes It would seem so. :(( Shog9 wrote: Just generalize it... People Suck I don't think that is fair on all people though, I mean (apparently) it's just other people that suck... :laugh: Shog9 wrote: perverts & smart asses replying Oh sh*t, am I at the wrong site again?! :~ :rolleyes:


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                  To avoid wasting my time answering all of that individually, it can be nulled with just one answer: Chris Losinger wrote: you are trying to define a stereotypical "American" in terms of your interpretation of American foreign policy No I am not. Would you like that enboldended? How about superscripted? Indeed, in addition to that, I can say that nowhere have I stated otherwise. You said you had read it, well read it again with your font size a little bigger and you might notice there is some small text about half way through that says I am talking Americanisms, per se, which is no more speaking about Americans than saying Jet Li is British because he can speak English. :(


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                  Chris Losinger
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                  sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook. -c


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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook. -c


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                    David Wulff
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                    Well I am sorry too, because that little "wink-wink footnote" was clearly marked as a core part of my text, and if you can't be bothered to, even after asking, read it as such then quite frankly you sir have your eye on the doughnut*. * Quote from Bill Sergio.


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                    • D David Wulff

                      Well I am sorry too, because that little "wink-wink footnote" was clearly marked as a core part of my text, and if you can't be bothered to, even after asking, read it as such then quite frankly you sir have your eye on the doughnut*. * Quote from Bill Sergio.


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                      excellent comeback -c


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                      • M Martin Marvinski

                        Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?

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                        For starters :- USD 8K / month High speed net access Fast computer with large monitor MSDN subscription What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Nish


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                          excellent comeback -c


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                          David Wulff
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                          (this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:


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                            (this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:


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                            Chris Losinger
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                            David Wulff wrote: You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text the hell i did. i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble ? i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. don't bother replying. -c


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                              For starters :- USD 8K / month High speed net access Fast computer with large monitor MSDN subscription What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Nish


                              Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                              Roger Wright
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                              Nishant S wrote: What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Shhhhhh... They'll all want one! There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.

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                                (this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:


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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                David Wulff wrote: And you seem to be the only one. He's not. Most people here dislike confrontation, and therefore, do not speak up. As for me personally, I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that in any situation he may have said something which is not considered kind. Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans. And they do differ greatly from that of your eastern cohorts. You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts. Placing a footnote doesn't nullify anything. It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie. You try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity. Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post is no excuse. Keep your focus on what's pertinent and not the extra crap around the donut hole. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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                                  For starters :- USD 8K / month High speed net access Fast computer with large monitor MSDN subscription What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Nish


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                                  Domenic Denicola
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                                  Have you looked into any job openings? I can imagine it wouldn't be impossible to find what you're looking for, and you wouldn't even need to work more than 5 days a week. Just a thought...

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                                    David Wulff wrote: You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text the hell i did. i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble ? i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. don't bother replying. -c


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                                    Chris Losinger wrote: don't bother replying No, I will continue to reply for as long as there is the possibility that someone will skim-read this thread and leave without a full understanding of what was actually being said. Yourself included. I wouldn't expect anything less of anyone else. Chris Losinger wrote: the hell i did "sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook." In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Would you conclude that to mean anything different? Chris Losinger wrote: i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. I did not even mention America, I said a "strongly-American way of thinking". I then went on to say - clearly - that this applied to everyone in the modern world, I even went so far as to deliberately fall back on the mistakes made in/by the British Empire in order to provide people with your mindset a black and white word that didn't have "America" in it. The "footnote", which was not a footnote at all, was added to make it as plain bloody obvious as the nose on the front of my head. Chris Losinger wrote: if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble I didn't. you are the only person still drawing that conclusion. Chris Losinger wrote: i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. Even without that sentance, your derived meaning is hard to draw from the text without conciously disregarding yet more of it. How, if you choose to remove anything which agrees with you, do you ever expect to find agreement on a topic? You are the one with the spade, not me. We all know what they say about assumptions. ;P


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                                      Nishant S wrote: What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Shhhhhh... They'll all want one! There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.

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                                      Lol - yeah! Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?!


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                                      • M Martin Marvinski

                                        Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?

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                                        Jeremy Falcon
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                                        Martin Marvinski wrote: I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. There are! I'm American and I say that too. New Orleans is one of the crime capitals of the world and Baton Rouge (where I live) isn't far behind. I don't know how it is past the Caribbean because I have not been further, so I can't speak for the eastern countries. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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                                          Chris Losinger wrote: don't bother replying No, I will continue to reply for as long as there is the possibility that someone will skim-read this thread and leave without a full understanding of what was actually being said. Yourself included. I wouldn't expect anything less of anyone else. Chris Losinger wrote: the hell i did "sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook." In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Would you conclude that to mean anything different? Chris Losinger wrote: i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. I did not even mention America, I said a "strongly-American way of thinking". I then went on to say - clearly - that this applied to everyone in the modern world, I even went so far as to deliberately fall back on the mistakes made in/by the British Empire in order to provide people with your mindset a black and white word that didn't have "America" in it. The "footnote", which was not a footnote at all, was added to make it as plain bloody obvious as the nose on the front of my head. Chris Losinger wrote: if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble I didn't. you are the only person still drawing that conclusion. Chris Losinger wrote: i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. Even without that sentance, your derived meaning is hard to draw from the text without conciously disregarding yet more of it. How, if you choose to remove anything which agrees with you, do you ever expect to find agreement on a topic? You are the one with the spade, not me. We all know what they say about assumptions. ;P


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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          David Wulff wrote: We all know what they say about assumptions. They make an ass out of u and umption ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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