Coming to America
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sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook. -c
Being just contaminates the void.
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Well I am sorry too, because that little "wink-wink footnote" was clearly marked as a core part of my text, and if you can't be bothered to, even after asking, read it as such then quite frankly you sir have your eye on the doughnut*. * Quote from Bill Sergio.
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Well I am sorry too, because that little "wink-wink footnote" was clearly marked as a core part of my text, and if you can't be bothered to, even after asking, read it as such then quite frankly you sir have your eye on the doughnut*. * Quote from Bill Sergio.
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
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(this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
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(this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
David Wulff wrote: You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text the hell i did. i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble ? i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. don't bother replying. -c
Being just contaminates the void.
--Robyn HitchcockImage Processing - easy, like Sunday morning.
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For starters :- USD 8K / month High speed net access Fast computer with large monitor MSDN subscription What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Nishant S wrote: What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Shhhhhh... They'll all want one! There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
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(this is too easy) The fact still remains that although you can use Google effectively you had no ground to start with. You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text to allow it to be twisted it into an attack on my views (which are totally unrelated in any case). What puzzles me even more is why you continue to take the moral high ground with respect to your thread. :confused: And you seem to be the only one. And as your linked-page itself states, a personal attack by a claimee does not refute the claim, for which I drew a clear seperation. Oh wait don't tell me, you didn't read that in it's entirety either did you? :rolleyes:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
David Wulff wrote: And you seem to be the only one. He's not. Most people here dislike confrontation, and therefore, do not speak up. As for me personally, I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that in any situation he may have said something which is not considered kind. Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans. And they do differ greatly from that of your eastern cohorts. You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts. Placing a footnote doesn't nullify anything. It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie. You try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity. Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post is no excuse. Keep your focus on what's pertinent and not the extra crap around the donut hole. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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For starters :- USD 8K / month High speed net access Fast computer with large monitor MSDN subscription What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Nish
Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]
Have you looked into any job openings? I can imagine it wouldn't be impossible to find what you're looking for, and you wouldn't even need to work more than 5 days a week. Just a thought...
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David Wulff wrote: You have stated that you have deliberately choosen to ignore part of my text the hell i did. i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble ? i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. don't bother replying. -c
Being just contaminates the void.
--Robyn HitchcockImage Processing - easy, like Sunday morning.
Chris Losinger wrote: don't bother replying No, I will continue to reply for as long as there is the possibility that someone will skim-read this thread and leave without a full understanding of what was actually being said. Yourself included. I wouldn't expect anything less of anyone else. Chris Losinger wrote: the hell i did "sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook." In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Would you conclude that to mean anything different? Chris Losinger wrote: i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. I did not even mention America, I said a "strongly-American way of thinking". I then went on to say - clearly - that this applied to everyone in the modern world, I even went so far as to deliberately fall back on the mistakes made in/by the British Empire in order to provide people with your mindset a black and white word that didn't have "America" in it. The "footnote", which was not a footnote at all, was added to make it as plain bloody obvious as the nose on the front of my head. Chris Losinger wrote: if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble I didn't. you are the only person still drawing that conclusion. Chris Losinger wrote: i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. Even without that sentance, your derived meaning is hard to draw from the text without conciously disregarding yet more of it. How, if you choose to remove anything which agrees with you, do you ever expect to find agreement on a topic? You are the one with the spade, not me. We all know what they say about assumptions. ;P
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Nishant S wrote: What they get :- 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, fast programmer!!! Shhhhhh... They'll all want one! There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
Lol - yeah! Side question: Is it true that in Spain they have three hour lunches?!
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
Martin Marvinski wrote: I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. There are! I'm American and I say that too. New Orleans is one of the crime capitals of the world and Baton Rouge (where I live) isn't far behind. I don't know how it is past the Caribbean because I have not been further, so I can't speak for the eastern countries. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
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Chris Losinger wrote: don't bother replying No, I will continue to reply for as long as there is the possibility that someone will skim-read this thread and leave without a full understanding of what was actually being said. Yourself included. I wouldn't expect anything less of anyone else. Chris Losinger wrote: the hell i did "sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook." In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Would you conclude that to mean anything different? Chris Losinger wrote: i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. I did not even mention America, I said a "strongly-American way of thinking". I then went on to say - clearly - that this applied to everyone in the modern world, I even went so far as to deliberately fall back on the mistakes made in/by the British Empire in order to provide people with your mindset a black and white word that didn't have "America" in it. The "footnote", which was not a footnote at all, was added to make it as plain bloody obvious as the nose on the front of my head. Chris Losinger wrote: if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble I didn't. you are the only person still drawing that conclusion. Chris Losinger wrote: i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. Even without that sentance, your derived meaning is hard to draw from the text without conciously disregarding yet more of it. How, if you choose to remove anything which agrees with you, do you ever expect to find agreement on a topic? You are the one with the spade, not me. We all know what they say about assumptions. ;P
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
David Wulff wrote: We all know what they say about assumptions. They make an ass out of u and umption ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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David Wulff wrote: And you seem to be the only one. He's not. Most people here dislike confrontation, and therefore, do not speak up. As for me personally, I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that in any situation he may have said something which is not considered kind. Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans. And they do differ greatly from that of your eastern cohorts. You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts. Placing a footnote doesn't nullify anything. It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie. You try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity. Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post is no excuse. Keep your focus on what's pertinent and not the extra crap around the donut hole. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoOkay Jeremy, I have read your repsonse a good few times, yet I knew the content of *your* post before even reading it. Like John and to a certain degree Martin, the tone is predictable. In fact, I could have put money on it once I saw the author. Now that is out of the way with, you have forced me to make clear, yet again, some very important points: Jeremy Falcon wrote: he may have said something which is not considered kind To keep from repeating myself, please quote me. We are obviouly talking about different things here, and I cannot hope to constructively analyse them unless we agree what it is you find offensive. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans Were you a regular about nine weeks ago - I think so, and I do seem to remember hearing you input to my thread in the R&R setting clear - in stone - this rhetoric bollocks that keeps being trawled into my conversations. Check your e-mail logs; I'm not wasting my time again. Jeremy Falcon wrote: You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts *sigh* Is it really time for yet another reminder that we - these polite and delivcate creatures jokingly known as CPians - continually take the piss out of, milk the jizz from, and rip the shit out of: the Irish, the Frogs, the Aussies, the Kiwis, the Pommes, the Jerrys, the Yanks, the Spanish, and I do beleive just a few threads down we colectively take the piss out of a Brazillian. This image you have of me going round carrying burning US flags is the same one certain unnamed groups of people had in the early 1940's. Jeremy Falcon wrote: It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie I disagree purely on the grounds that it was not a footnote, it was clearly inline with the rest of the text. Others *have* said so. Jeremy Falcon wrote: try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity How, when, and more importantly why? I am proud of the fact that I have never removed nor changed the content of any message posted on these public forums, short of correcting spelling errors. I don't mind arguing on something I have written, but I will not skew the meaning because of my ego! Some people are different I guess. Jeremy Falcon wrote: Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post i
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Martin Marvinski wrote: I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. There are! I'm American and I say that too. New Orleans is one of the crime capitals of the world and Baton Rouge (where I live) isn't far behind. I don't know how it is past the Caribbean because I have not been further, so I can't speak for the eastern countries. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoJust curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? We don't seem to have much violent crime here, despite the very high poverty rate. Phoenix, of course, has a relatively high level of problems with gangs, but even there the drive-by shootings so common in other big cities are fairly rare. This is one of the few places left that can be properly called the US as we have a great deal of resistance to having our rights taken away from us. We have always been allowed to carry a gun, and the criminals know it. In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now:-) What's it like down there? There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
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David Wulff wrote: We all know what they say about assumptions. They make an ass out of u and umption ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
:rolleyes: Now that just wans't nice Christian, it wasn't nice at all. :laugh:
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David Wulff wrote: And you seem to be the only one. He's not. Most people here dislike confrontation, and therefore, do not speak up. As for me personally, I'm tired of wasting my time on someone who simply refuses to acknowledge the fact that in any situation he may have said something which is not considered kind. Any regular CPian knows of your feelings towards us Americans. And they do differ greatly from that of your eastern cohorts. You sporadically place pompous and degrading comments about us in your posts. Placing a footnote doesn't nullify anything. It is simply serving the same purpose as the comic relief in a movie. You try to lighten the situation to soften the blow of your negativity. Also, just because Martin is being a moron with this post is no excuse. Keep your focus on what's pertinent and not the extra crap around the donut hole. Jeremy L. Falcon Homepage : Sonork = 100.16311
"The height of your accomplishments will equal the depth of your convictions." - William F. ScolavinoJeremy Falcon wrote: not the extra crap around the donut hole. Ew !! Am I the only one who used 'donut makers' as a term for homosexuals while in high school ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Chris Losinger wrote: don't bother replying No, I will continue to reply for as long as there is the possibility that someone will skim-read this thread and leave without a full understanding of what was actually being said. Yourself included. I wouldn't expect anything less of anyone else. Chris Losinger wrote: the hell i did "sorry, a little wink-wink footnote doesn't get you off the hook." In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Would you conclude that to mean anything different? Chris Losinger wrote: i simply don't think you can go on and on about how wrong america is then disclaim yourself with a quick footnote. I did not even mention America, I said a "strongly-American way of thinking". I then went on to say - clearly - that this applied to everyone in the modern world, I even went so far as to deliberately fall back on the mistakes made in/by the British Empire in order to provide people with your mindset a black and white word that didn't have "America" in it. The "footnote", which was not a footnote at all, was added to make it as plain bloody obvious as the nose on the front of my head. Chris Losinger wrote: if you really didn't mean to generalize americans, then why go through the trouble I didn't. you are the only person still drawing that conclusion. Chris Losinger wrote: i'm not ignoring your precious footnote, i simply don't believe it. Even without that sentance, your derived meaning is hard to draw from the text without conciously disregarding yet more of it. How, if you choose to remove anything which agrees with you, do you ever expect to find agreement on a topic? You are the one with the spade, not me. We all know what they say about assumptions. ;P
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
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David Wulff wrote: In other words, you are not taking that sentance into account, thus deliberately ignoring it. Oh, come on David. Your rant was basically the same one you have on your web page, and trot out every chance you get. The bit at the end tempered it, but obviously you didn't want it cutting into your rant excessively, as you segregated it at the end, in small text. Observing this fact obviously does not constitute ignoring the 'footnote'. I seriously doubt anyone is taking this branch seriously (well, except for Jeremy), so could you please try to avoid harping? It seriously hurts the entertainment value...
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Just curious, Jeremy - are you allowed to carry a gun there? Or are only criminals armed? We don't seem to have much violent crime here, despite the very high poverty rate. Phoenix, of course, has a relatively high level of problems with gangs, but even there the drive-by shootings so common in other big cities are fairly rare. This is one of the few places left that can be properly called the US as we have a great deal of resistance to having our rights taken away from us. We have always been allowed to carry a gun, and the criminals know it. In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now:-) What's it like down there? There are three types of people in the world: Those who make things happen; those who watch things happen; those who wonder what happened.
Roger Wright wrote: In recent years we've made it even more frightening for a bad guy to assault innocent people by allowing every citizen who is not a felon or under medical care for mental illness to carry concealed weapons. The streets are very safe now Your area too? :rolleyes: James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
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I'd like to move to America; anywhere north of the 49th parellel would be great. Oh, wait, I'm already there... :laugh: "Programming is really just the mundane aspect of expressing a solution to a problem. There are talents that are specifically related to actually coding, but the real issue is being able to grasp problems and devise solutions that are detailed enough to actually be coded." -John Carmack [^]
Exactly. I find it funny how americans call themselves americans even though there is a North and South America. Techinically we're all pretty much american in the Western Hemisphere, but don't call anybody american outside the states (at least in Canada), we don't like it (at least I don't). :)
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David Wulff wrote: how can one hate a piece of land? Well, there's this little bit outside the parking lot where i work, it dips down *just* enough that if i'm going too fast while leaving, i'll scrape the underside of my car on it. Yeah, i know, i should learn to be tolerant of it, and appreciate the good it does, such as discouraging people from speeding into the daycare next door, but i just can't. Hate can be a very irrational thing sometimes...
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Shog9 wrote: Well, there's this little bit outside the parking lot where i work, it dips down *just* enough that if i'm going too fast while leaving, i'll scrape the underside of my car on it. Yeah, I know what you mean, there are certain driveways where my car nudges the hard stuff, I just hate it. I'm lifting my suspension an inch and a half to see if I can avoid it now. [Air suspension] Regardz Colin J Davies
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