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  • C Chris Meech

    How does Trailblazer sound. :)

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    Christopher Duncan
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    Surprisingly similar to Stationary Target. :-D

    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com

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    • C Christian Graus

      No, I don't believe there's an event firing. I've learned to do as much as I can in code, it's just easier to read and easier to control.

      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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      Patrick Etc
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      Christian Graus wrote:

      No, I don't believe there's an event firing.

      Hah! Without spending an entire day examining the assemblies in Reflector, you can't know that. Just because you're not handling the event, doesn't mean the event isn't being routed elsewhere in the framework, it just dead ends because you don't handle it (since almost all events are routed in WPF - the internal routing is probably still set up even if you don't add a handler). I could be wrong, though. Josh Smith might have a better answer. Where's he been, anyway? Ah, huge, obfuscated frameworks... gotta love 'em.


      It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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      • C Christian Graus

        I spent the past year writing a WPF project, which is now live and in the marketplace. WPF does some cool stuff, but it has it's fair share of issues. The most frustrating thing for me is when we hit a showstopper, and I ask a question ( specifically on the MSDN forums, although I am asking in the CP WPF forums now too ), generally, it takes a couple of weeks for the question to go stale and then someone from MS to answer, so we often get into situations where, for example, WPF can't read a photograph from a jpg and resize it without destroying the image ( I believe this bug is still present in .NET 3.5, we get around it by using GDI+ to load images ). My current bug is interesting. Out of the blue, we get an intermittent error: Not enough quota is available to process this command. I tracked it down to this line of code: Application.Current.MainWindow.MinHeight = ActualHeight + 100; Despite being in a try/catch, this line crashes the program regularly. It's been there from day one, but the problem is new. I've removed the line, perhaps in a few weeks I'll have an idea of how this can crash the program. No, this is not a programming question - if the MSDN WPF forum can't help me, I doubt the lounge can. It's meant to be a trigger for 'what a weird error' or 'gosh it's hard trying to work with new frameworks, because you're the one finding the weird bugs' type discussions.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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        Lost User
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        As per the strange error - are you positive that ActualHeight is not ever negative? Imagine if Actualheight was -100 for some strange reason....? Maybe Max( 0, ActualHeight ) + 100 would be safer? Rene Pilon

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        • C Christian Graus

          I spent the past year writing a WPF project, which is now live and in the marketplace. WPF does some cool stuff, but it has it's fair share of issues. The most frustrating thing for me is when we hit a showstopper, and I ask a question ( specifically on the MSDN forums, although I am asking in the CP WPF forums now too ), generally, it takes a couple of weeks for the question to go stale and then someone from MS to answer, so we often get into situations where, for example, WPF can't read a photograph from a jpg and resize it without destroying the image ( I believe this bug is still present in .NET 3.5, we get around it by using GDI+ to load images ). My current bug is interesting. Out of the blue, we get an intermittent error: Not enough quota is available to process this command. I tracked it down to this line of code: Application.Current.MainWindow.MinHeight = ActualHeight + 100; Despite being in a try/catch, this line crashes the program regularly. It's been there from day one, but the problem is new. I've removed the line, perhaps in a few weeks I'll have an idea of how this can crash the program. No, this is not a programming question - if the MSDN WPF forum can't help me, I doubt the lounge can. It's meant to be a trigger for 'what a weird error' or 'gosh it's hard trying to work with new frameworks, because you're the one finding the weird bugs' type discussions.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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          cwp42
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          They are using WPF: Karl Shifflett http://karlshifflett.wordpress.com/ Josh Smith http://joshsmithonwpf.wordpress.com/ Tor Langlo http://www.kodasoftware.com/

          Christian Paproth

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          • C Christian Graus

            I spent the past year writing a WPF project, which is now live and in the marketplace. WPF does some cool stuff, but it has it's fair share of issues. The most frustrating thing for me is when we hit a showstopper, and I ask a question ( specifically on the MSDN forums, although I am asking in the CP WPF forums now too ), generally, it takes a couple of weeks for the question to go stale and then someone from MS to answer, so we often get into situations where, for example, WPF can't read a photograph from a jpg and resize it without destroying the image ( I believe this bug is still present in .NET 3.5, we get around it by using GDI+ to load images ). My current bug is interesting. Out of the blue, we get an intermittent error: Not enough quota is available to process this command. I tracked it down to this line of code: Application.Current.MainWindow.MinHeight = ActualHeight + 100; Despite being in a try/catch, this line crashes the program regularly. It's been there from day one, but the problem is new. I've removed the line, perhaps in a few weeks I'll have an idea of how this can crash the program. No, this is not a programming question - if the MSDN WPF forum can't help me, I doubt the lounge can. It's meant to be a trigger for 'what a weird error' or 'gosh it's hard trying to work with new frameworks, because you're the one finding the weird bugs' type discussions.

            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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            JDL EPM
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            I went on a WPF course recently and the instructor said, "Remember that the 'F' in 'WPF' stands for 'Foundation', as in 'Beginning', as in 'here's our first attempt'. It will (probably) get better." :laugh:

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            • C Christian Graus

              I spent the past year writing a WPF project, which is now live and in the marketplace. WPF does some cool stuff, but it has it's fair share of issues. The most frustrating thing for me is when we hit a showstopper, and I ask a question ( specifically on the MSDN forums, although I am asking in the CP WPF forums now too ), generally, it takes a couple of weeks for the question to go stale and then someone from MS to answer, so we often get into situations where, for example, WPF can't read a photograph from a jpg and resize it without destroying the image ( I believe this bug is still present in .NET 3.5, we get around it by using GDI+ to load images ). My current bug is interesting. Out of the blue, we get an intermittent error: Not enough quota is available to process this command. I tracked it down to this line of code: Application.Current.MainWindow.MinHeight = ActualHeight + 100; Despite being in a try/catch, this line crashes the program regularly. It's been there from day one, but the problem is new. I've removed the line, perhaps in a few weeks I'll have an idea of how this can crash the program. No, this is not a programming question - if the MSDN WPF forum can't help me, I doubt the lounge can. It's meant to be a trigger for 'what a weird error' or 'gosh it's hard trying to work with new frameworks, because you're the one finding the weird bugs' type discussions.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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              Lost User
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              Christian, To answer the question, I'm using WPF for a new huge business application. I love it. Challenges, some. But all technologies have challanges, so... I found your question in the new WPF forum and am responding there.

              Cheers, Karl My Blog | Mole's Home Page | How To Create Screen Capture Videos For Your Articles

              Just a grain of sand on the worlds beaches.

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              • C Christian Graus

                No, I don't believe there's an event firing. I've learned to do as much as I can in code, it's just easier to read and easier to control.

                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                Grimolfr
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                It seems to me that if you set .MinHeight to a value greater than .Height, it might trigger an automatic resizing of the control/object.

                Grim (aka Toby) MCDBA, MCSD, MCP+SB SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue IS NOT NULL (0 row(s) affected)

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                • C Christian Graus

                  I spent the past year writing a WPF project, which is now live and in the marketplace. WPF does some cool stuff, but it has it's fair share of issues. The most frustrating thing for me is when we hit a showstopper, and I ask a question ( specifically on the MSDN forums, although I am asking in the CP WPF forums now too ), generally, it takes a couple of weeks for the question to go stale and then someone from MS to answer, so we often get into situations where, for example, WPF can't read a photograph from a jpg and resize it without destroying the image ( I believe this bug is still present in .NET 3.5, we get around it by using GDI+ to load images ). My current bug is interesting. Out of the blue, we get an intermittent error: Not enough quota is available to process this command. I tracked it down to this line of code: Application.Current.MainWindow.MinHeight = ActualHeight + 100; Despite being in a try/catch, this line crashes the program regularly. It's been there from day one, but the problem is new. I've removed the line, perhaps in a few weeks I'll have an idea of how this can crash the program. No, this is not a programming question - if the MSDN WPF forum can't help me, I doubt the lounge can. It's meant to be a trigger for 'what a weird error' or 'gosh it's hard trying to work with new frameworks, because you're the one finding the weird bugs' type discussions.

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                  WareFore
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                  I cannot consider WPF, as yet another step in .NET obscurity, for my application-development toolset. I got burned by VS2005 when I wrote a Windows-desktop version of a commercial application for Life Compass™ Cards (www.lifecompasscards.com), then tried to beta-test it among my target audience. Nobody had ever heard of .NET nor did they have it installed on their Windows PCs, even XP, so when the application download (not ClickOnce as it takes too much effort, if at all, on a non-corporate audience) took them to the scary Microsoft geek-speak web-page to download 38MB of code, they panicked & cancelled. Come to discover that despite promises of ubiquity starting in 2000, Microsoft did not generally distribute .NET Framework till Vista, so any install to over 80% of the Windows marketplace comes with an additional, huge download. So, I'm looking to rewrite in something open-source. Got any suggestions?

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                    I cannot consider WPF, as yet another step in .NET obscurity, for my application-development toolset. I got burned by VS2005 when I wrote a Windows-desktop version of a commercial application for Life Compass™ Cards (www.lifecompasscards.com), then tried to beta-test it among my target audience. Nobody had ever heard of .NET nor did they have it installed on their Windows PCs, even XP, so when the application download (not ClickOnce as it takes too much effort, if at all, on a non-corporate audience) took them to the scary Microsoft geek-speak web-page to download 38MB of code, they panicked & cancelled. Come to discover that despite promises of ubiquity starting in 2000, Microsoft did not generally distribute .NET Framework till Vista, so any install to over 80% of the Windows marketplace comes with an additional, huge download. So, I'm looking to rewrite in something open-source. Got any suggestions?

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                    azonenberg
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                    I've never used .NET and have no plans to do so unless forced to by an employer. Native C++ is the way to go.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      I spent the past year writing a WPF project, which is now live and in the marketplace. WPF does some cool stuff, but it has it's fair share of issues. The most frustrating thing for me is when we hit a showstopper, and I ask a question ( specifically on the MSDN forums, although I am asking in the CP WPF forums now too ), generally, it takes a couple of weeks for the question to go stale and then someone from MS to answer, so we often get into situations where, for example, WPF can't read a photograph from a jpg and resize it without destroying the image ( I believe this bug is still present in .NET 3.5, we get around it by using GDI+ to load images ). My current bug is interesting. Out of the blue, we get an intermittent error: Not enough quota is available to process this command. I tracked it down to this line of code: Application.Current.MainWindow.MinHeight = ActualHeight + 100; Despite being in a try/catch, this line crashes the program regularly. It's been there from day one, but the problem is new. I've removed the line, perhaps in a few weeks I'll have an idea of how this can crash the program. No, this is not a programming question - if the MSDN WPF forum can't help me, I doubt the lounge can. It's meant to be a trigger for 'what a weird error' or 'gosh it's hard trying to work with new frameworks, because you're the one finding the weird bugs' type discussions.

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                      Bob1000
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                      Think the old adage sums it up 'You can always tell a Pioneer – they are the guys with arrows in their backs ..'

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