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  • M Marc Clifton

    To make an orange dye, 3 parts of red dye are mixed with 2 parts of yellow dye. To make a green dye, 2 parts of blue dye are mixed with 1 part of yellow dye. If equal amounts of green and orange are mixed, what is the proportion of yellow dye in the new mixture? a. 3/16 b. 1/4 c. 11/30 d. 3/8 d. 7/12 -- From the SAT question of the day email I get as Ian signed me up as well to get these questions. Now, he figured this out (good for him) but it stumped me because I view the concept of "parts" to be abstract, making it impossible to equate "equal amounts of green and orange". I guess that's what I get for dealing with object oriented programming languages and always thinking too hard about math word problems. I guess if you consider "part" as a variable, like in: 5po=3pr + 2py 3pg=2pb + 1py then the "p" gets completely factored out. But in my thinking, the "parts" for making orange can be very different than the "parts" for making green. Which is another thing that I always had a problem with in word problems. If something can be completely factored out in the math, then why is it even used as a word in the problem? I've always attached meaning to the words in a math problem, when in reality, a lot of those words simple disappear in the math expressions. Wierd. Oh well, back to my abstractions and other imaginary worlds that I live in. Marc

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    Kschuler
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    I think the more important question is...who the crap would want to mix green and orange? What puke color is that?

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      Andy Brummer
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      John C wrote:

      the cook would keep the sourdough starter in his pocket so it wouldn't freeze.

      Sounds yummy.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        peterchen wrote:

        (A) The same measure can and is applied to all colors.

        That's helpful, but not required.

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        peterchen
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        Is it not?

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          I think the more important question is...who the crap would want to mix green and orange? What puke color is that?

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          Sean Cundiff
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          Kschuler wrote:

          I think the more important question is...who the crap would want to mix green and orange? What puke color is that?

          umm, err, CodeProject? :(

          -Sean ---- ????? ?????????

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            Kschuler wrote:

            I think the more important question is...who the crap would want to mix green and orange? What puke color is that?

            umm, err, CodeProject? :(

            -Sean ---- ????? ?????????

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            Kschuler
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            Ha. I wasn't quite thinking of it that way...but that's funny.

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            • M Marc Clifton

              To make an orange dye, 3 parts of red dye are mixed with 2 parts of yellow dye. To make a green dye, 2 parts of blue dye are mixed with 1 part of yellow dye. If equal amounts of green and orange are mixed, what is the proportion of yellow dye in the new mixture? a. 3/16 b. 1/4 c. 11/30 d. 3/8 d. 7/12 -- From the SAT question of the day email I get as Ian signed me up as well to get these questions. Now, he figured this out (good for him) but it stumped me because I view the concept of "parts" to be abstract, making it impossible to equate "equal amounts of green and orange". I guess that's what I get for dealing with object oriented programming languages and always thinking too hard about math word problems. I guess if you consider "part" as a variable, like in: 5po=3pr + 2py 3pg=2pb + 1py then the "p" gets completely factored out. But in my thinking, the "parts" for making orange can be very different than the "parts" for making green. Which is another thing that I always had a problem with in word problems. If something can be completely factored out in the math, then why is it even used as a word in the problem? I've always attached meaning to the words in a math problem, when in reality, a lot of those words simple disappear in the math expressions. Wierd. Oh well, back to my abstractions and other imaginary worlds that I live in. Marc

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              eggsovereasy
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              Just fill in your own unit of measurement...

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              • J Jim Crafton

                Amusingly enough, if all of us college graduates had to retake the SAT's now, we'd probably all fail and never get admitted a second time round :)

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                Roger Wright
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                Maybe, but after they watered down the SAT several years ago I bet I could still ace the thing - drunk.

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                • A Andy Brummer

                  You never know when you'll have to make concrete with cement, sand, gravel and water. You already have solar power, you're halfway to having your own compound already.

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                  Luc Pattyn
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                  right. yellow-green concrete is my favorite one. :)

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                    I think the more important question is...who the crap would want to mix green and orange? What puke color is that?

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                    Luc Pattyn
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                    haven't you tried it by now? they are on about it for hours already....

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      Show off... I did it as (2/5 + 3/5) + (1/3 + 2/3) == (6/15 + 9/15) + (5/15 + 10/15) looking at the numerators only, I see 30 parts, 11 of which are yellow.

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                      Luc Pattyn
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                      But that is o so wrong. how can 0 == 0 prove or solve anything? :wtf: you should have used real numbers here.

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                        Is it not?

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                        By which I mean that different units may be used at each step.

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                        • L Luc Pattyn

                          right. yellow-green concrete is my favorite one. :)

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                          Andy Brummer
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                          / lol, I'm kinda partial to gray myself.


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                            But that is o so wrong. how can 0 == 0 prove or solve anything? :wtf: you should have used real numbers here.

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            You may have forgotten (or didn't know) that I have a Rational class (available here[^]) that handles this just fine; I plug in "(1/2 * 2/5) + (1/2 * 1/3)" (jesarg's formula) and get "11/30" out. Mine doesn't work as well -- the answer isn't "30/15" :laugh:

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                              You may have forgotten (or didn't know) that I have a Rational class (available here[^]) that handles this just fine; I plug in "(1/2 * 2/5) + (1/2 * 1/3)" (jesarg's formula) and get "11/30" out. Mine doesn't work as well -- the answer isn't "30/15" :laugh:

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                              Luc Pattyn
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                              Yeah, adding a class, a using statement and a couple of double quotes may help you out. Provided the class has passed SAT of course. :-D

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                                Yeah, adding a class, a using statement and a couple of double quotes may help you out. Provided the class has passed SAT of course. :-D

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                                modified on Thursday, February 21, 2008 7:45 PM

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                using statement

                                Users are losers. :-D Actually I made a small console app -- applet? -- appletini! A very small app. :-D

                                namespace Calc
                                {
                                public partial class Calc
                                {
                                [System.STAThreadAttribute()]
                                public static int
                                Main
                                (
                                string[] args
                                )
                                {
                                int result = 0 ;

                                        try
                                        {
                                            if ( args.Length > 0 )
                                            {
                                                System.Console.Write 
                                                ( 
                                                    PIEBALD.Types.Rational.ParseInfix ( args \[ 0 \] ).ToString() 
                                                ) ;
                                            }
                                            else
                                            {
                                                System.Console.Write ( "Syntax: CALC expression" ) ;
                                            }
                                        }
                                        catch ( System.Exception err )
                                        {
                                            System.Console.Write ( err.Message ) ;
                                        }
                                
                                        return ( result ) ;
                                    }
                                }
                                

                                }

                                OK, so it still requires quotes, but it would if I used floating point too. And the class is off-the-shelf, it's been there getting dusty for some time now.

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                                  Amusingly enough, if all of us college graduates had to retake the SAT's now, we'd probably all fail and never get admitted a second time round :)

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                                  >> Retaking the SATs. Well, here's my experience. 1979 (age 17): 1280 (680M, 600V) 1999 (age 37): 1490 (750M, 740V) Of course, circa 1995, the scoring was "recentered", so score from before that "aren't comparable" to scores after. These day, ETS is a bit more forthcoming with details, so I was able to learn that the 1490 was the result of getting a total of 7 questions wrong over the entire set of tests.

                                  Truth, James

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                                  • R Roger Wright

                                    Maybe, but after they watered down the SAT several years ago I bet I could still ace the thing - drunk.

                                    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                    Brady Kelly
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                                    I aced nearly all of my apprenticeship electronics exams Beverly hung over or even still drunk from the night before. One of my classmates once even passed out after finishing his exam too quickly. Electronics is very easy on the theory side, if they go easy on calculations.

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                                    • A Andy Brummer

                                      Part in this case means same sized container of indeterminate size, essentially unit of measure. The important thing in this setup is that the container used is the same size throughout, like a scoop or a coffee cup. That terminology is used in re-sizing a recipe for example. 5 parts flour to 1 part of sugar. Part can be 1 cup or 10 cups depending how much you are making. I'll pre-mix pancakes and use those types of ratios when I'm mixing it up ahead of time. That way I don't have to grab a specific measuring cup, just a large enough bowl. Math equations exist independently of the models, so the equations you wrote down can be understood as lines on a plane, or ratios of mixed components. Another one would be two lines through the origin intersecting with a third line. Math is the study of the abstract systems without considering the models. What gets really strange is when the same relationships can be re-used within the same model. In projective geometry, the geometry used to generate projections of 3d objects on a 2d surface. Statements like: Between any 2 points there is one line have a corresponding dual interpretation: every 2 lines intersect in one point. Every theorem about lines has a corresponding dual theorem about points. It's the same theorem you are just plugging in different "parts" that you are operating on. It's all very generic and functional programming style.

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                                      Lebear 01
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                                      Thank you. My question now is, "Why was this newsletter worthy?"

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                                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                                        I before E except after C and W or before GH.

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                                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                                        I before E except after C and W or before GH.

                                        Albeit you might be absolutely correct, I'm not agreeing with you! We were anteing up for a bet, and I think you are actually wrong. I think any foreigners on CP might agree with me, unless you counterfeit the results. I had a seizure just thinking about it. The atheists were particularly upset. So, I put on my beige shorts, and proclaimed "anchors aweigh" as I ate my braunschweiger (for protein) and marbleized crumpets with my cup of caffeine. "We're going canoeing!" I said, clueing others in on our daily adventure. Just don't get into the counterfeit canoe. The water's fine, because it's deionized - thank the blueish deity (no, it's not from dyeing his skin, but any einstein would know this). And it's not a blue holstein, either. Weird indeed. I had to forfeit because my heirs had heisted a canoe earlier. So I was looking through the kaleidoscope as I fell on my keister. After kneeing the monseigneur, I changed into other leisureware (I was caught peeing in my shorts). But that's neither their here nor their there. The reigning captain reignited the debate on whether I should be reimbursed, as I was reinfecting the earlier wound. I told him I would reinitiate a suit, as I had reimaged the earlier wound (had to reink the printer first). That's when he unleashed the rottweilers! I was seeing more clearly now. I thought I was having a seizure, but then I noticed the seismometer was seizing. The sheilas sat on it as they were shoeing their feet while surveilling sightseeing surroundings. Thereinafter, I decided I was tieing (M-W) my own shoes, or would resort to tippytoeing. Wherein I decided, with veins bulging, it's a good thing we have simple rules to live by, especially for weirdos with weiners, eh? :laugh:

                                        Gary

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                                        • A Andy Brummer

                                          / lol, I'm kinda partial to gray myself.


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                                          ghle
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                                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                                          lol, I'm kinda partial to gray myself.

                                          Um, five parts black, five parts white? :confused:

                                          Gary

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