You have been coding too long....
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The first words I ever uttered whilst sitting in front of a vi screen (with a more experienced geek standing behind me) were, "What the f*** to you mean, modal???" :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
i really liked vi, back in the day. i still think it's cool, i just don't ever use console windows for editing anymore.
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i really liked vi, back in the day. i still think it's cool, i just don't ever use console windows for editing anymore.
I truly loved, the pure, raw power of the UNIX operating system (*nix, Linux, QNX, and any other knock off you can find). My first gig was on QNX, and let me tell you, it was a brutal experience moving to DOS after that.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
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Yeah, I can dig it. Back in the old days, I was using Emacs on *nix boxes and Brief on DOS. But good God, man - vi??? :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
I was using Emacs
Evil!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
But good God, man - vi
vi is the editor, my friend. There are no other editors but vi.
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I was using Emacs
Evil!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
But good God, man - vi
vi is the editor, my friend. There are no other editors but vi.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
vi is the editor, my friend. There are no other editors but vi.
Would you like some cookies with that Kool Aid? :-D
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
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I truly loved, the pure, raw power of the UNIX operating system (*nix, Linux, QNX, and any other knock off you can find). My first gig was on QNX, and let me tell you, it was a brutal experience moving to DOS after that.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
oh god... DOS is an abomination. i still write .BAT files to control builds and i'm still amazed at just how much of a kludge the whole thing is. and the fact that MS hasn't introduced a new command line environment after all this time ? stupid.
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oh god... DOS is an abomination. i still write .BAT files to control builds and i'm still amazed at just how much of a kludge the whole thing is. and the fact that MS hasn't introduced a new command line environment after all this time ? stupid.
Chris Losinger wrote:
and the fact that MS hasn't introduced a new command line environment after all this time ? stupid.
I would choose more descriptive phrases than stupid, and I would aim them squarely at the marketing department. One of the appeals of Linux and all the Penguin stuff is that it's (kinda sorta) free. However, *nix offers an incredibly powerful shell environment that makes it quite appealing as well. Sure, you can find bolt on shells for Windows, but after all these years, why would they not put something more powerful at the C:\> prompt than DOS, something as powerful as *nix? Stupid, stupid, stupid... (Yeah, I know I said I'd use more descriptive phrases, my kid sister just walked in.)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
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Chris Losinger wrote:
and the fact that MS hasn't introduced a new command line environment after all this time ? stupid.
I would choose more descriptive phrases than stupid, and I would aim them squarely at the marketing department. One of the appeals of Linux and all the Penguin stuff is that it's (kinda sorta) free. However, *nix offers an incredibly powerful shell environment that makes it quite appealing as well. Sure, you can find bolt on shells for Windows, but after all these years, why would they not put something more powerful at the C:\> prompt than DOS, something as powerful as *nix? Stupid, stupid, stupid... (Yeah, I know I said I'd use more descriptive phrases, my kid sister just walked in.)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
i used to have a copy of MKS for Windows, but that was years ago... it's too expensive for me now. i guess i should try Cygwin.
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i used to have a copy of MKS for Windows, but that was years ago... it's too expensive for me now. i guess i should try Cygwin.
I'm still dragging around my dead copy of CodeWright. I tried Visual SlickEdit, which is comparble, but they don't give full .NET support (i.e. I still have to toggle to Visual Studio go get the intellisense for the asp:yadayada tags), so there was no point in switching. It's easier to switch girlfriends than it is editors. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I was using Emacs
Evil!
Christopher Duncan wrote:
But good God, man - vi
vi is the editor, my friend. There are no other editors but vi.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
vi is the editor, my friend. There are no other editors but vi.
I agree. EMACS might be a very good OS, but the editor component just sucks! ;)
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all.
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i really liked vi, back in the day. i still think it's cool, i just don't ever use console windows for editing anymore.
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oh god... DOS is an abomination. i still write .BAT files to control builds and i'm still amazed at just how much of a kludge the whole thing is. and the fact that MS hasn't introduced a new command line environment after all this time ? stupid.
Powershell is included in Windows Server 2008, the first Windows to go RTM since Powrshell's RTM.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
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Powershell is included in Windows Server 2008, the first Windows to go RTM since Powrshell's RTM.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
ah Powershell.... sounds wonderful. too bad MS can't write an installer for it that actually works.
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I'm still dragging around my dead copy of CodeWright. I tried Visual SlickEdit, which is comparble, but they don't give full .NET support (i.e. I still have to toggle to Visual Studio go get the intellisense for the asp:yadayada tags), so there was no point in switching. It's easier to switch girlfriends than it is editors. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
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You have been coding too long when you are composing a document using Microsoft Word and you find yourself using UNIX vi commands to edit the file.... :omg:
"..Resistance is Futile..."
what's wrong with vi?
Rudolf Heijink
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oh god... DOS is an abomination. i still write .BAT files to control builds and i'm still amazed at just how much of a kludge the whole thing is. and the fact that MS hasn't introduced a new command line environment after all this time ? stupid.
PowerShell?
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PowerShell?
will not install. i get some error about encryption and security policies. messing with gpedit.msc doesn't help.