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El Corazon wrote:
The good news is they were a lot more honest than my previous employer, so although they took my lower price offer to keep their risk down, they gave me lots of raises over the years to bring me up slowly. That is very rare, and if you count on your employer to always look out for your best interest, you are likely to get in trouble.
I lucked out on this front with my employer as well. I was 2 years out of school with no relevant work experience when I got hired at a rather low rate, and a few months after I started I got a fairly large bump in pay with the official reason being HR's most recent salary survey said I was underpaid for what I did and was at increased risk of jumping ship so I got pushed up to the 'normal level' for my skill/area.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
Smart company. It's cheaper to keep your talent at a rate sufficient to prevent them leaving then to start the hiring process. I'm still amazed when some companies are still blinkered in their thinking - usually the same organizations that run their shops with 80%+ contractors to "save money". What it really boils down to is that they don't see IT as a core aspect of doing business. However the more experience I have the less likely I've found that companies are likely to stiff me, simply because I'm very mobile right as a result.
I'm largely language agnostic
After a while they all bug me :doh:
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Smart company. It's cheaper to keep your talent at a rate sufficient to prevent them leaving then to start the hiring process. I'm still amazed when some companies are still blinkered in their thinking - usually the same organizations that run their shops with 80%+ contractors to "save money". What it really boils down to is that they don't see IT as a core aspect of doing business. However the more experience I have the less likely I've found that companies are likely to stiff me, simply because I'm very mobile right as a result.
I'm largely language agnostic
After a while they all bug me :doh:
MidwestLimey wrote:
What it really boils down to is that they don't see IT as a core aspect of doing business.
Many do not. We don't sell software here, we build vans with lots of technology in them. It is easier to just buy software to do everything you need than write your own, it was a long hard fight to show that it is better to make a custom part than force fit the wrong software into a job. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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MidwestLimey wrote:
What it really boils down to is that they don't see IT as a core aspect of doing business.
Many do not. We don't sell software here, we build vans with lots of technology in them. It is easier to just buy software to do everything you need than write your own, it was a long hard fight to show that it is better to make a custom part than force fit the wrong software into a job. :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
And not only technology laden products. If your company requires complex logistics, management or strategies then IT is invaluable.
I'm largely language agnostic
After a while they all bug me :doh:
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Hi, 2 months to finish University. Now it's time to start looking for job. Well i have couple of questions for you all. 1.) I am interested in C#(.Net) but as a fact i never had any module of .NET in University. But i do have 1 yr experience in it. But the problem is that when i look for jobs related to .Net, agency people calls me and ask what all .Net technologies i know and this is tough now. Well i know learning ASP or VB won't be that hard but then i have to wait till i finish Uni and prepare myself. So can any one guide me what all .Net technologies are must to learn before i search for related job. And there are significant update in .Net technologies recently but i am still using VS2005, .NET 2. So do i have to update myself before i search and is there a much difference. So please guide me the right path and the list of .NET technologies i should know before looking for job. 2.) I have got 1 yr experience during my internship. Now one important question people ask all the time is what is my salary expectation. Well, to be very honest at the moment i don't have any idea what's the current ongoing rate for a graduate in .NET with 1 yr experience. So i just give vague reply. So what do you think that i should be looking for after i finish Uni in UK(Pounds pls.) ? or what can be the perfect reply...i guess it's not a good idea to say i am easy with it. And please be serious. :) 3.) What is the best way to prepare for the interview. And if i am going for C# job interview.. Can employer ask anything i have done in course like C++, Java etc or only the Object oriented stuff and question will be related to C# mainly...? Looking forward to hearing from you all.. Thank You James :)
james_dixon_2008 wrote:
agency people calls me and ask what all .Net technologies i know and this is tough now.
When I was trying to enter the industry from a previous career and zero commercial experience (much harder than being a new graduate) I found it was more productive approaching employers directly or responding to employer ads than using agencies. You have one year's commercial experience so you are in a better position. However, the agency scenario may still apply albeit to a lesser extent. In my case, whenever I approached an agency I was told to come back when I had some experience, whereas when I approached companies I did at least get some interviews.
Kevin
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Hi, 2 months to finish University. Now it's time to start looking for job. Well i have couple of questions for you all. 1.) I am interested in C#(.Net) but as a fact i never had any module of .NET in University. But i do have 1 yr experience in it. But the problem is that when i look for jobs related to .Net, agency people calls me and ask what all .Net technologies i know and this is tough now. Well i know learning ASP or VB won't be that hard but then i have to wait till i finish Uni and prepare myself. So can any one guide me what all .Net technologies are must to learn before i search for related job. And there are significant update in .Net technologies recently but i am still using VS2005, .NET 2. So do i have to update myself before i search and is there a much difference. So please guide me the right path and the list of .NET technologies i should know before looking for job. 2.) I have got 1 yr experience during my internship. Now one important question people ask all the time is what is my salary expectation. Well, to be very honest at the moment i don't have any idea what's the current ongoing rate for a graduate in .NET with 1 yr experience. So i just give vague reply. So what do you think that i should be looking for after i finish Uni in UK(Pounds pls.) ? or what can be the perfect reply...i guess it's not a good idea to say i am easy with it. And please be serious. :) 3.) What is the best way to prepare for the interview. And if i am going for C# job interview.. Can employer ask anything i have done in course like C++, Java etc or only the Object oriented stuff and question will be related to C# mainly...? Looking forward to hearing from you all.. Thank You James :)
james_dixon_2008 wrote:
but as a fact i never had any module of .NET in University
Yikes! Confirming my preconcieved notions about how useless a university education is in the real world yet again. :) What were they teaching? Pascal?
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El Corazon wrote:
inspect US sites and convert currency
What?! Why? Why not just look at UK sites (i.e. where he is based)?
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Hi, 2 months to finish University. Now it's time to start looking for job. Well i have couple of questions for you all. 1.) I am interested in C#(.Net) but as a fact i never had any module of .NET in University. But i do have 1 yr experience in it. But the problem is that when i look for jobs related to .Net, agency people calls me and ask what all .Net technologies i know and this is tough now. Well i know learning ASP or VB won't be that hard but then i have to wait till i finish Uni and prepare myself. So can any one guide me what all .Net technologies are must to learn before i search for related job. And there are significant update in .Net technologies recently but i am still using VS2005, .NET 2. So do i have to update myself before i search and is there a much difference. So please guide me the right path and the list of .NET technologies i should know before looking for job. 2.) I have got 1 yr experience during my internship. Now one important question people ask all the time is what is my salary expectation. Well, to be very honest at the moment i don't have any idea what's the current ongoing rate for a graduate in .NET with 1 yr experience. So i just give vague reply. So what do you think that i should be looking for after i finish Uni in UK(Pounds pls.) ? or what can be the perfect reply...i guess it's not a good idea to say i am easy with it. And please be serious. :) 3.) What is the best way to prepare for the interview. And if i am going for C# job interview.. Can employer ask anything i have done in course like C++, Java etc or only the Object oriented stuff and question will be related to C# mainly...? Looking forward to hearing from you all.. Thank You James :)
Thanks a lot to you all for sharing some views. I gained a lot out of this post. I will keep in mind all the suggestions. Thanks again. :)
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Hi, 2 months to finish University. Now it's time to start looking for job. Well i have couple of questions for you all. 1.) I am interested in C#(.Net) but as a fact i never had any module of .NET in University. But i do have 1 yr experience in it. But the problem is that when i look for jobs related to .Net, agency people calls me and ask what all .Net technologies i know and this is tough now. Well i know learning ASP or VB won't be that hard but then i have to wait till i finish Uni and prepare myself. So can any one guide me what all .Net technologies are must to learn before i search for related job. And there are significant update in .Net technologies recently but i am still using VS2005, .NET 2. So do i have to update myself before i search and is there a much difference. So please guide me the right path and the list of .NET technologies i should know before looking for job. 2.) I have got 1 yr experience during my internship. Now one important question people ask all the time is what is my salary expectation. Well, to be very honest at the moment i don't have any idea what's the current ongoing rate for a graduate in .NET with 1 yr experience. So i just give vague reply. So what do you think that i should be looking for after i finish Uni in UK(Pounds pls.) ? or what can be the perfect reply...i guess it's not a good idea to say i am easy with it. And please be serious. :) 3.) What is the best way to prepare for the interview. And if i am going for C# job interview.. Can employer ask anything i have done in course like C++, Java etc or only the Object oriented stuff and question will be related to C# mainly...? Looking forward to hearing from you all.. Thank You James :)
James - I am an employer, and I'll cast an eye over your CV to see if I can help you with any pointers if it would be of any benefit. Don't get your expectations up - I never hire people fresh out of Uni - but I can tell you what employers look for.
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James - I am an employer, and I'll cast an eye over your CV to see if I can help you with any pointers if it would be of any benefit. Don't get your expectations up - I never hire people fresh out of Uni - but I can tell you what employers look for.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Hello Pete, I will be really thankful if you will give me some advice on it. Thank You
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Hello Pete, I will be really thankful if you will give me some advice on it. Thank You
James send it to me at peter at gmail dot com. This avoids the company Spam filter.
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James send it to me at peter at gmail dot com. This avoids the company Spam filter.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Pete, I'm planning on making the move to the UK in June from the US. I have a six month work visa and am looking for a software development job. I have had almost two years programming (C#, ASP.NET 1.x - 2.0, SQL Server 2003, and some WSS 3.0) experience through an internship. I was wondering if I could ask you to look over my CV and possibly suggest some avenues for employment. I'd appreciate any help I can get. Thanks, Chris McGlothen
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Hi, 2 months to finish University. Now it's time to start looking for job. Well i have couple of questions for you all. 1.) I am interested in C#(.Net) but as a fact i never had any module of .NET in University. But i do have 1 yr experience in it. But the problem is that when i look for jobs related to .Net, agency people calls me and ask what all .Net technologies i know and this is tough now. Well i know learning ASP or VB won't be that hard but then i have to wait till i finish Uni and prepare myself. So can any one guide me what all .Net technologies are must to learn before i search for related job. And there are significant update in .Net technologies recently but i am still using VS2005, .NET 2. So do i have to update myself before i search and is there a much difference. So please guide me the right path and the list of .NET technologies i should know before looking for job. 2.) I have got 1 yr experience during my internship. Now one important question people ask all the time is what is my salary expectation. Well, to be very honest at the moment i don't have any idea what's the current ongoing rate for a graduate in .NET with 1 yr experience. So i just give vague reply. So what do you think that i should be looking for after i finish Uni in UK(Pounds pls.) ? or what can be the perfect reply...i guess it's not a good idea to say i am easy with it. And please be serious. :) 3.) What is the best way to prepare for the interview. And if i am going for C# job interview.. Can employer ask anything i have done in course like C++, Java etc or only the Object oriented stuff and question will be related to C# mainly...? Looking forward to hearing from you all.. Thank You James :)
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