Hmm. Today's a bad day.
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Pete O'Hanlon, who strangely enough cannot be quoted directly due to an "Error on page expected ')'", which is seemingly localized to him - perhaps CP has it in for you? - wrote:
Robert Jordan (Wheel of Time series) [is] dead
Good. Now all we need is for Terry Brooks and David Eddings to shuffle off this mortal coil and the world will be free of the three worst fantasy writers in the entirety of history.
martin_hughes wrote:
which is seemingly localized to him - perhaps CP has it in for you?
Paranoia - the feeling that a website has it in for you. OK - I would guess that the apostrophe in my name is fracking the "quote engine". Having read the entire Wheel Of Time series so far, I'm extremely p*ssed with him for shuffling off the mortal coil. I'm sorry, but having dragged out a series of books way past their natural die-by date, the least he could have done was beat the grim reaper off with a sh!tty stick with one hand while hammering away at the keyboard with the other.
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martin_hughes wrote:
which is seemingly localized to him - perhaps CP has it in for you?
Paranoia - the feeling that a website has it in for you. OK - I would guess that the apostrophe in my name is fracking the "quote engine". Having read the entire Wheel Of Time series so far, I'm extremely p*ssed with him for shuffling off the mortal coil. I'm sorry, but having dragged out a series of books way past their natural die-by date, the least he could have done was beat the grim reaper off with a sh!tty stick with one hand while hammering away at the keyboard with the other.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
I'll tell you how the final book would have gone: Rand and crew travel the entire world, yet again, using Jordan's latest narrative invention to avoid describing any travel, staying at various inns, hostels and hotels - which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate - in search of yet another magical object, device, scroll, spell, all the while been hen-pecked by some perversely two-dimensional female characters who sniff a lot. Meanwhile, in some randomly generated sub-plot, a few new characters are introduced. These characters do very little except fill some empty pages and after two-hundred of which eventually die or fade into obscurity. Rand and crew, having made good use of the intermission, are now very close to the objective but - gasp! - suddenly find themselves in a real scrape. Despite the fact that they all have supremely cool magical powers, they find themselves unable to exercise such power due to conscience/intervention/not having had a cup of tea, and things are looking grim. The female characters start sniffing. Just when it seems the end for our protagonists, the Fremen hard as nails desert folk, who absolutely were not stolen wholesale from Frank Herbert, turn up and start handing out the good news left, right and centre. Rand and crew suddenly find their cool magical powers returned, complete the quest, defeat the bad guys, save the world (for the umpteenth time), go on yet another world tour (staying at various inns, hostels and hotels which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate), find that the bad guys were not in fact defeated, tour the world, find some other magical objects, sniff a bit, tool up, find that the bad guy was really just misunderstood, relent, sniff a bit more and then retire for some well deserved sniffing-accompanied self congratulation.
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martin_hughes wrote:
which is seemingly localized to him - perhaps CP has it in for you?
Paranoia - the feeling that a website has it in for you. OK - I would guess that the apostrophe in my name is fracking the "quote engine". Having read the entire Wheel Of Time series so far, I'm extremely p*ssed with him for shuffling off the mortal coil. I'm sorry, but having dragged out a series of books way past their natural die-by date, the least he could have done was beat the grim reaper off with a sh!tty stick with one hand while hammering away at the keyboard with the other.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Jordan he knew he was dieing and prepared extensive notes for a designates successor to write the final book if he didn't live long enough to do so.
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Bummer - Arthur C Clarke and Anthony Minghella both died today. Damn.
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When I discovered SF as a kid, I was lucky. My local library carried books by all of "the Big Three:" Heinlein, Asimov, and Clarke. As I grew up there were more books by each othem to read. Clarke was the last to go. Hail and Farewell. :rose:
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Pete O'Hanlon, who strangely enough cannot be quoted directly due to an "Error on page expected ')'", which is seemingly localized to him - perhaps CP has it in for you? - wrote:
Robert Jordan (Wheel of Time series) [is] dead
Good. Now all we need is for Terry Brooks and David Eddings to shuffle off this mortal coil and the world will be free of the three worst fantasy writers in the entirety of history.
A five for your brutal honesty. I agree 100%.
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I'll tell you how the final book would have gone: Rand and crew travel the entire world, yet again, using Jordan's latest narrative invention to avoid describing any travel, staying at various inns, hostels and hotels - which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate - in search of yet another magical object, device, scroll, spell, all the while been hen-pecked by some perversely two-dimensional female characters who sniff a lot. Meanwhile, in some randomly generated sub-plot, a few new characters are introduced. These characters do very little except fill some empty pages and after two-hundred of which eventually die or fade into obscurity. Rand and crew, having made good use of the intermission, are now very close to the objective but - gasp! - suddenly find themselves in a real scrape. Despite the fact that they all have supremely cool magical powers, they find themselves unable to exercise such power due to conscience/intervention/not having had a cup of tea, and things are looking grim. The female characters start sniffing. Just when it seems the end for our protagonists, the Fremen hard as nails desert folk, who absolutely were not stolen wholesale from Frank Herbert, turn up and start handing out the good news left, right and centre. Rand and crew suddenly find their cool magical powers returned, complete the quest, defeat the bad guys, save the world (for the umpteenth time), go on yet another world tour (staying at various inns, hostels and hotels which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate), find that the bad guys were not in fact defeated, tour the world, find some other magical objects, sniff a bit, tool up, find that the bad guy was really just misunderstood, relent, sniff a bit more and then retire for some well deserved sniffing-accompanied self congratulation.
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Bummer - Arthur C Clarke and Anthony Minghella both died today. Damn.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Sad indeed but far sadder was the demise of Captain Birdseye... apparently the second most recognised sailor after Captain Cook.
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Bummer - Arthur C Clarke and Anthony Minghella both died today. Damn.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Rama, one of the best games i played, after Arthur C. Clarke`s books :(
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Bummer - Arthur C Clarke and Anthony Minghella both died today. Damn.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Bummer - Arthur C Clarke and Anthony Minghella both died today. Damn.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
A thousand years from now someone on a long voyage to somewhere will be reading Clark while listening to the Beatles Stones, or perhaps the Kinks.(or maybe not).
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Sad indeed but far sadder was the demise of Captain Birdseye... apparently the second most recognised sailor after Captain Cook.
digital man wrote:
Captain Birdseye... apparently the second most recognised sailor after Captain Cook.
Make that thrird most recognized sailor - for although not a Captain, Popeye is THE Sailor-Man.
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Bummer - Arthur C Clarke and Anthony Minghella both died today. Damn.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
:(( No one has mentioned Minghella...(English Patient, Cold Mountain, Talented Mr. Ripley, etc) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/movies/19minghella.html?ref=Eurpoe
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I'll tell you how the final book would have gone: Rand and crew travel the entire world, yet again, using Jordan's latest narrative invention to avoid describing any travel, staying at various inns, hostels and hotels - which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate - in search of yet another magical object, device, scroll, spell, all the while been hen-pecked by some perversely two-dimensional female characters who sniff a lot. Meanwhile, in some randomly generated sub-plot, a few new characters are introduced. These characters do very little except fill some empty pages and after two-hundred of which eventually die or fade into obscurity. Rand and crew, having made good use of the intermission, are now very close to the objective but - gasp! - suddenly find themselves in a real scrape. Despite the fact that they all have supremely cool magical powers, they find themselves unable to exercise such power due to conscience/intervention/not having had a cup of tea, and things are looking grim. The female characters start sniffing. Just when it seems the end for our protagonists, the Fremen hard as nails desert folk, who absolutely were not stolen wholesale from Frank Herbert, turn up and start handing out the good news left, right and centre. Rand and crew suddenly find their cool magical powers returned, complete the quest, defeat the bad guys, save the world (for the umpteenth time), go on yet another world tour (staying at various inns, hostels and hotels which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate), find that the bad guys were not in fact defeated, tour the world, find some other magical objects, sniff a bit, tool up, find that the bad guy was really just misunderstood, relent, sniff a bit more and then retire for some well deserved sniffing-accompanied self congratulation.
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Add Robert Jordan to that list.
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I'll tell you how the final book would have gone: Rand and crew travel the entire world, yet again, using Jordan's latest narrative invention to avoid describing any travel, staying at various inns, hostels and hotels - which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate - in search of yet another magical object, device, scroll, spell, all the while been hen-pecked by some perversely two-dimensional female characters who sniff a lot. Meanwhile, in some randomly generated sub-plot, a few new characters are introduced. These characters do very little except fill some empty pages and after two-hundred of which eventually die or fade into obscurity. Rand and crew, having made good use of the intermission, are now very close to the objective but - gasp! - suddenly find themselves in a real scrape. Despite the fact that they all have supremely cool magical powers, they find themselves unable to exercise such power due to conscience/intervention/not having had a cup of tea, and things are looking grim. The female characters start sniffing. Just when it seems the end for our protagonists, the Fremen hard as nails desert folk, who absolutely were not stolen wholesale from Frank Herbert, turn up and start handing out the good news left, right and centre. Rand and crew suddenly find their cool magical powers returned, complete the quest, defeat the bad guys, save the world (for the umpteenth time), go on yet another world tour (staying at various inns, hostels and hotels which seem remarkably well stocked with food and drink given the economic and political climate), find that the bad guys were not in fact defeated, tour the world, find some other magical objects, sniff a bit, tool up, find that the bad guy was really just misunderstood, relent, sniff a bit more and then retire for some well deserved sniffing-accompanied self congratulation.
martin_hughes wrote:
the world will be free of the three worst fantasy writers in the entirety of history.
Couldn't agree more with your opinion of Terry Brooks Ambivalent (rather than anti) toward David Eddings Robert Jordan: Totally disagree! You obviously think his writing is formulaic but show me a writer who doesn't exhibit some trends after 12 books!
martin_hughes wrote:
absolutely were not stolen wholesale from Frank Herbert
Who of course didn't steal the idea from Lawrence of Arabia! :-D You don't like his work, OK, chalk one up to different tastes but the quality of his writing is actually quite good. Put Stephen Donaldson at the top of that list (the man starts paragraphs with "But" - and not "But for ...")! :mad: There are plenty of other writers in the same class as Terry Brooks, using what I am going to start calling the "see spot run" style of writing: David Gemmel and Janny Wurts (who I suspect of ghost writing Raymond Feist's more recent works) immediately spring to mind and load of others that I will never bother with 'coz I pick up one of their books, open at random and see page after page of dialogue and "xyz did this, then did that", with nothing to set the scene.
T-Mac-Oz
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Add Robert Jordan to that list.
Not the "died today list"! James Oliver Rigney (aka Robert Jordan) died on September 16th, 2007. :((
T-Mac-Oz
I know :( I actually meant "the great writer that passed away recently" list He will be missed.
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martin_hughes wrote:
the world will be free of the three worst fantasy writers in the entirety of history.
Couldn't agree more with your opinion of Terry Brooks Ambivalent (rather than anti) toward David Eddings Robert Jordan: Totally disagree! You obviously think his writing is formulaic but show me a writer who doesn't exhibit some trends after 12 books!
martin_hughes wrote:
absolutely were not stolen wholesale from Frank Herbert
Who of course didn't steal the idea from Lawrence of Arabia! :-D You don't like his work, OK, chalk one up to different tastes but the quality of his writing is actually quite good. Put Stephen Donaldson at the top of that list (the man starts paragraphs with "But" - and not "But for ...")! :mad: There are plenty of other writers in the same class as Terry Brooks, using what I am going to start calling the "see spot run" style of writing: David Gemmel and Janny Wurts (who I suspect of ghost writing Raymond Feist's more recent works) immediately spring to mind and load of others that I will never bother with 'coz I pick up one of their books, open at random and see page after page of dialogue and "xyz did this, then did that", with nothing to set the scene.
T-Mac-Oz
T-Mac-Oz wrote:
You obviously think his writing is formulaic but show me a writer who doesn't exhibit some trends after 12 books!
Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle, Agatha Christie, Tom Sharpe, PG Wodehoue? :p
T-Mac-Oz wrote:
Who of course didn't steal the idea from Lawrence of Arabia!
Leave off!
T-Mac-Oz wrote:
There are plenty of other writers in the same class as Terry Brooks, using what I am going to start calling the "see spot run" style of writing:
Oh, there's an awful lot of bad fantasy - and Jordan was King of the Crap! There's a much smaller selection of good stuff, so go and read Mieville, Peake, Morcock, Wolfe, Carrol, King and then come back and tell me how great Jordan was :)
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T-Mac-Oz wrote:
You obviously think his writing is formulaic but show me a writer who doesn't exhibit some trends after 12 books!
Sir Arthur Conan-Doyle, Agatha Christie, Tom Sharpe, PG Wodehoue? :p
T-Mac-Oz wrote:
Who of course didn't steal the idea from Lawrence of Arabia!
Leave off!
T-Mac-Oz wrote:
There are plenty of other writers in the same class as Terry Brooks, using what I am going to start calling the "see spot run" style of writing:
Oh, there's an awful lot of bad fantasy - and Jordan was King of the Crap! There's a much smaller selection of good stuff, so go and read Mieville, Peake, Morcock, Wolfe, Carrol, King and then come back and tell me how great Jordan was :)
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martin_hughes wrote:
Mieville, Peake, Morcock, Wolfe, Carrol, King
Thanks anyway, I usually skip the "Young Adults" section in the bookshop. I still like Jordan's work.
T-Mac-Oz
You won't find any of those authors in "Young Adults", plus these are examples of the best fantasy fiction - unlike the complete dross you seem to prefer.
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martin_hughes wrote:
the world will be free of the three worst fantasy writers in the entirety of history.
Couldn't agree more with your opinion of Terry Brooks Ambivalent (rather than anti) toward David Eddings Robert Jordan: Totally disagree! You obviously think his writing is formulaic but show me a writer who doesn't exhibit some trends after 12 books!
martin_hughes wrote:
absolutely were not stolen wholesale from Frank Herbert
Who of course didn't steal the idea from Lawrence of Arabia! :-D You don't like his work, OK, chalk one up to different tastes but the quality of his writing is actually quite good. Put Stephen Donaldson at the top of that list (the man starts paragraphs with "But" - and not "But for ...")! :mad: There are plenty of other writers in the same class as Terry Brooks, using what I am going to start calling the "see spot run" style of writing: David Gemmel and Janny Wurts (who I suspect of ghost writing Raymond Feist's more recent works) immediately spring to mind and load of others that I will never bother with 'coz I pick up one of their books, open at random and see page after page of dialogue and "xyz did this, then did that", with nothing to set the scene.
T-Mac-Oz