Deathmatch: XP vs Vista
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I don't get it. There must be something wrong with me. I don't know what this is all about. I love Vista and never had problem with it. The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie. I turned off UAC so no problem with annoying warnings. And working on Vista is so much more pleasure than working with XP. Breadcrumbs is brilliant. Search in start menu is brilliant. And it is fast, quite fast on any reasonable today computer. Sure, it uses much more memory but what the hell, visual studio starts up in a half of second on Vista, I have never seen that on XP. I remember all of this going around in 2002 with XP, it was slow, too colorful, not more secure and blah blah. We got thru that. Don't get me wrong, I love XP, it is nice, robust and stable OS. But it is time to move on. Keep XP on your current computer, get Vista on new one. Love XP too much? OK then, get it also on new computer and wait for system seven if you see coming it any time soon(year or two). But please, for God's sake can we just leave it now?
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I don't get it. There must be something wrong with me. I don't know what this is all about. I love Vista and never had problem with it. The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie. I turned off UAC so no problem with annoying warnings. And working on Vista is so much more pleasure than working with XP. Breadcrumbs is brilliant. Search in start menu is brilliant. And it is fast, quite fast on any reasonable today computer. Sure, it uses much more memory but what the hell, visual studio starts up in a half of second on Vista, I have never seen that on XP. I remember all of this going around in 2002 with XP, it was slow, too colorful, not more secure and blah blah. We got thru that. Don't get me wrong, I love XP, it is nice, robust and stable OS. But it is time to move on. Keep XP on your current computer, get Vista on new one. Love XP too much? OK then, get it also on new computer and wait for system seven if you see coming it any time soon(year or two). But please, for God's sake can we just leave it now?
Michal Martinka wrote:
The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie.
I don't see why this has to be put up here. If you don't have the right codec to play a movie, it won't play. This has nothing to do with the operating system. <sarcasm> PS: There are so many things I absolutely love in Vista. </sarcasm> For instance, the file copy dialog that shows "calculating time remaining" forever, eating my CPU cycles. X|
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Michal Martinka wrote:
The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie.
I don't see why this has to be put up here. If you don't have the right codec to play a movie, it won't play. This has nothing to do with the operating system. <sarcasm> PS: There are so many things I absolutely love in Vista. </sarcasm> For instance, the file copy dialog that shows "calculating time remaining" forever, eating my CPU cycles. X|
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I don't see why this has to be put up here. If you don't have the right codec to play a movie, it won't play. This has nothing to do with the operating system.
What I meant was that on XP I just installed AllInOne codecs pack all worked, while when I installed same pack on Vista, some movies could not be played. So there is something different inside Vista regarding video playing. Not a big deal though. New codec packs are being made.
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
I don't see why this has to be put up here. If you don't have the right codec to play a movie, it won't play. This has nothing to do with the operating system.
What I meant was that on XP I just installed AllInOne codecs pack all worked, while when I installed same pack on Vista, some movies could not be played. So there is something different inside Vista regarding video playing. Not a big deal though. New codec packs are being made.
I get it now. Probably the installer must have failed to install a few codecs. I am hoping to have a good time with Vista after I finish installing SP1.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
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Michal Martinka wrote:
The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie.
I don't see why this has to be put up here. If you don't have the right codec to play a movie, it won't play. This has nothing to do with the operating system. <sarcasm> PS: There are so many things I absolutely love in Vista. </sarcasm> For instance, the file copy dialog that shows "calculating time remaining" forever, eating my CPU cycles. X|
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
For instance, the file copy dialog that shows "calculating time remaining" forever, eating my CPU cycles
Fixed in SP1
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I don't get it. There must be something wrong with me. I don't know what this is all about. I love Vista and never had problem with it. The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie. I turned off UAC so no problem with annoying warnings. And working on Vista is so much more pleasure than working with XP. Breadcrumbs is brilliant. Search in start menu is brilliant. And it is fast, quite fast on any reasonable today computer. Sure, it uses much more memory but what the hell, visual studio starts up in a half of second on Vista, I have never seen that on XP. I remember all of this going around in 2002 with XP, it was slow, too colorful, not more secure and blah blah. We got thru that. Don't get me wrong, I love XP, it is nice, robust and stable OS. But it is time to move on. Keep XP on your current computer, get Vista on new one. Love XP too much? OK then, get it also on new computer and wait for system seven if you see coming it any time soon(year or two). But please, for God's sake can we just leave it now?
Whenever I have a problem, someone telling me "It works for me" usually comforts me, and makes me think "Oh, then it's probably not a real problem". I can't turn off UAC on the developer PCs, because I have to see what the user sees. No doubt Vista or its successor one day simply wins on being better, it worked for XP. That doesn't mean Vista works well right now for everyone who needs it, or everyone has the choice to stick with XP.
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That's an example of an article that should have been organized as follows: Basis: Did we do any real testing? No. Did we do any surveys? No. Is this all hearsay? Yes. Conclusion: Vista sucks Our subjective, random, myopic topics: 1, 2, 3, 4... Our subjective conclusions: 1, 2,3 ,4 .... Our subjective detailed reasoning behind our conclusions: .... Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Vista. I'm criticizing the unprofessional quality of the article. The bar is so low nowadays, it's in the ground. 'Morning, Chris! Marc
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Whenever I have a problem, someone telling me "It works for me" usually comforts me, and makes me think "Oh, then it's probably not a real problem". I can't turn off UAC on the developer PCs, because I have to see what the user sees. No doubt Vista or its successor one day simply wins on being better, it worked for XP. That doesn't mean Vista works well right now for everyone who needs it, or everyone has the choice to stick with XP.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistI'm not saying that if Vista works fine for me it also works for you. I'm just saying, it's here, it' new and it's different. Use it or don't. I don't care. If you're happy with XP, good for you! I just don't know why so many people have to discuss same things again and again, compares it again and again for a year now and write articles in which they are trying to prove their opinion is right.
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I'm not saying that if Vista works fine for me it also works for you. I'm just saying, it's here, it' new and it's different. Use it or don't. I don't care. If you're happy with XP, good for you! I just don't know why so many people have to discuss same things again and again, compares it again and again for a year now and write articles in which they are trying to prove their opinion is right.
Michal Martinka wrote:
I just don't know why so many people have to discuss same things again and again, compares it again and again for a year now and write articles in which they are trying to prove their opinion is right.
Human nature?
Richard of York gave battle in vain.
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That's an example of an article that should have been organized as follows: Basis: Did we do any real testing? No. Did we do any surveys? No. Is this all hearsay? Yes. Conclusion: Vista sucks Our subjective, random, myopic topics: 1, 2, 3, 4... Our subjective conclusions: 1, 2,3 ,4 .... Our subjective detailed reasoning behind our conclusions: .... Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Vista. I'm criticizing the unprofessional quality of the article. The bar is so low nowadays, it's in the ground. 'Morning, Chris! Marc
It's as if someone having a brainfart has connected the output to a keypad and then submitted the result as "reporting".
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Michal Martinka wrote:
The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie.
I don't see why this has to be put up here. If you don't have the right codec to play a movie, it won't play. This has nothing to do with the operating system. <sarcasm> PS: There are so many things I absolutely love in Vista. </sarcasm> For instance, the file copy dialog that shows "calculating time remaining" forever, eating my CPU cycles. X|
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP
Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:
For instance, the file copy dialog that shows "calculating time remaining" forever, eating my CPU cycles.
known issue and easily fixed by a person who wants to fix it, knows google exists, and doesn't simply want to complain forever about something that was infinitely googleable. Though, it is fixed in SP1 now. I have UAC on, I have fixed the file copy issue with Vista before the SP1 fix. But then I look at it as just another OS, having lived through DOS to present. I don't have to demand the world stop for my benefit.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I don't get it. There must be something wrong with me. I don't know what this is all about. I love Vista and never had problem with it. The only thing that don't works without problem are codecs but after I installed GOM player I can play any movie. I turned off UAC so no problem with annoying warnings. And working on Vista is so much more pleasure than working with XP. Breadcrumbs is brilliant. Search in start menu is brilliant. And it is fast, quite fast on any reasonable today computer. Sure, it uses much more memory but what the hell, visual studio starts up in a half of second on Vista, I have never seen that on XP. I remember all of this going around in 2002 with XP, it was slow, too colorful, not more secure and blah blah. We got thru that. Don't get me wrong, I love XP, it is nice, robust and stable OS. But it is time to move on. Keep XP on your current computer, get Vista on new one. Love XP too much? OK then, get it also on new computer and wait for system seven if you see coming it any time soon(year or two). But please, for God's sake can we just leave it now?
Michal Martinka wrote:
But please, for God's sake can we just leave it now?
careful, you've just summoned the Vista hating league. You are not allowed to like anything they dislike. It is interesting, "it works for me" is echoed as the most damnable phrase for Vista, but "it doesn't work for me" is cheered and raised high as if it were printed in the Bible or something. I never bothered hating Vista, I solved the problems that needed solving just as I have for every OS that came before. I am a developer, I have to solve it, not ignore it. I expect to adapt. So I skipped the Vista hate, and worked through the issues. Just as I did with XP, 2000, NT, ME, 98, 95, 3.11, 3.0, DOS, and numerous versions of Linux since its birth to now.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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The article suggested Microsoft engage the broader user base more with Windows 7. I agree and think the Microsoft Office team should have done the same with 2007. That said, is it too early to ask Microsoft to retain "Windows 7" as the name of the next version of Windows? Not only does that have a nice sound to it, perhaps it will gently remind Microsoft engineers that they are working on an OS. We've gone through naming conventions using years, really long clinical names and clever names, how about just naming the software what it is?
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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It's as if someone having a brainfart has connected the output to a keypad and then submitted the result as "reporting".
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Jim Crafton wrote:
It's as if someone having a brainfart has connected the output to a keypad and then submitted the result as "reporting".
That pretty much describes most reporting about computers since I can remember. John Dvorak has made a career of it (and all power to him.)
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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I'm not saying that if Vista works fine for me it also works for you. I'm just saying, it's here, it' new and it's different. Use it or don't. I don't care. If you're happy with XP, good for you! I just don't know why so many people have to discuss same things again and again, compares it again and again for a year now and write articles in which they are trying to prove their opinion is right.
Michal Martinka wrote:
Use it or don't.
I'm just saying, I have the choice as a user, but not as a developer. Yes, there is a lot of noise - similar to XP. And yes, that noise is annoying. ´There's also a lot of signal in the noise, though.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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