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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

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    digital man wrote:

    In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this?

    I'd be out of a job as a programmer. On the other hand, I could back into stained glass work, I could get in shape as a farm hand on the neighborhood farms and spend more time outdoors, I could spend more time reading all the books on my bookshelf... hmmmm.. yan....

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    • R R Giskard Reventlov

      We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

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      David Crow
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      digital man wrote:

      In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances...

      Since my company sells computers and a few of us write software, I'd say we'd cease to exist.

      "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

        bin the spin home

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        If EVERYTHING failed, we'd be unable to do business, but that would mean two datacenters in Rackspace (IAD and DFW) would have to go down completely as well. We have insurance and Rackspace provides guarantees, so we'd recover once things came back up, but we would have no sales, being as our product is primarily sold online and all of our engraving orders are picked up electronically by the engraver. If our local office lost its servers and internet connctivity, then the IT team and the owner would take our wireless laptops and a couple of CSRs down the road to the "Riverfront" where there is free wireless for all and set the CSRs up at the food court with our laptops and we'd forward our 800 number to ring on all the cells everybody had. Then we'd go shopping for a new box to be our in-house server (it's data is backed up nightly to our Rackspace backup web server). And, if Rackspace lost both Herndon, Viginia and Dallas, Texas, then there is something so huge happening (like an alien invasion) that we probably don't care about the business so much. Draugnar

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

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          • R R Giskard Reventlov

            We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

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            It's a game every business should play just to get a disaster recovery plan in place. The what if for us is that we're a software company so we'd be out of business pretty quickly without computers. I think I'd take up landscaping as a new career. :)


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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

              bin the spin home

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              Paul Watson
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              Since the locks on our doors are controlled by computers...

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

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                Since the locks on our doors are controlled by computers...

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                Dan Neely
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                ...Your next career would be as a glazier working for the people your current employer rents their building from?

                Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                  ...Your next career would be as a glazier working for the people your current employer rents their building from?

                  Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                  Paul Watson
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                  We'd have starved before then. The canteen is controlled by computers too.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

                    bin the spin home

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Hmmm... this is a taxi cab company, so there'd be no "fast computer dispatch", and business would halt completely regardless of any expertise held by experienced staff. If the computers in the cabs remain operational, then the drivers could still take cash (maybe credit card, but they'd need manual forms) fares when flagged down. I think everyone would just go home; I know I would... if my car starts.

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      We'd have starved before then. The canteen is controlled by computers too.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Any sane person would've egressed via smashed windows first, hence my original comment. :rolleyes: Besides which unless your firecode was written by an exceptionally stupid class of govt bureaucrat electric locks that fail shut from the inside are illegal.

                      Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Since the locks on our doors are controlled by computers...

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        Since the locks on our doors are controlled by computers...

                        ...A pair of size nines are on stand-by? :)

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

                          bin the spin home

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                          Pete OHanlon
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                          digital man wrote:

                          In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this?

                          We'd be screwed, because writing software is what we do. I don't think our clients would appreciate us just delivering an empty box and saying "if the computer worked, you'd see something really cool just about now."

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                          • R R Giskard Reventlov

                            We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

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                            FyreWyrm
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                            I'd like to think that we'd strap on armor and swords and take over the buildings around us. Maybe we can do that anyway (Note to self: discuss takeover option at next team meeting). Most likely we'd fold and we'd take a lot of our clients with us as the software we sell is not stand-alone applications, but needs to communicate with our mainframe to work.

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                              digital man wrote:

                              In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this?

                              I'd be out of a job as a programmer. On the other hand, I could back into stained glass work, I could get in shape as a farm hand on the neighborhood farms and spend more time outdoors, I could spend more time reading all the books on my bookshelf... hmmmm.. yan....

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                              Marc Clifton wrote:

                              I could spend more time reading all the books on my bookshelf...

                              Like "Introduction to WPF"? :D

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                              • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

                                bin the spin home

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                                Derek Bartram
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                                I'm a PhD student, and if the PC breaks (as it often does, poor little thing, ahhhhh I think it needs some TLC), then I get a holiday (no i'm not senselessly kicking the **** out of it for more holiday time)

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                                • P peterchen

                                  Marc Clifton wrote:

                                  I could spend more time reading all the books on my bookshelf...

                                  Like "Introduction to WPF"? :D

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  peterchen wrote:

                                  Like "Introduction to WPF"?

                                  I was thinking more along the lines of "Freeing the Soul from Fear" by Robert Sardello. :-D Marc

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                                  • M MidwestLimey

                                    Since we're a software publisher, I think we'd be screwed ...


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                                    Ditto! :doh:

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                                    • P Paul Watson

                                      Since the locks on our doors are controlled by computers...

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      Since the locks on our doors are controlled by computers...

                                      ...you have moved to Ireland or I wouldn't have believed you. Seuth Effricka doesn't have enough shiney rocks to buy computers.

                                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                      • R R Giskard Reventlov

                                        We played 'what if' at the office the other day along the lines of 'what if all of the computers failed. How could we do business?' By this we meant that the whole system was down and non-recoverable, the disaster recovery building was out of operation and, essentially, we were back to pen and paper to do business. Could we cope and survive? The answer was probably not and the reason was that there were not enough people who remembered how to run the business the old-fashioned way. Most of the staff are well under 40 and there are not enough old timers like me that recall the old ways (there were no computers when I started work!) and could run the business, albeit a little more slowly, without electronic help. In that vein, how would your business fare given similar circumstances and is there a more general danger arising from this? Just curious.

                                        bin the spin home

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                                        Stuart Dootson
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                                        I did that the whole 'what if' game (what happens if our domain server goes down) one evening...and the next morning, I came in to work to find that its PSU had bust. My mind IS that powerful :-O

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